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   101. Mikαεl Posted: September 08, 2005 at 11:37 PM (#1606095)
Unless Darren had tickets tonight and didn't say anything, Millar's screwed tonight.
   102. 1k5v3L Posted: September 08, 2005 at 11:40 PM (#1606102)
Does the country matter? I do have a green card, for whatever that's worth. So getting a job shouldn't be a problem. Anyhow, I was born in socialism; bolted out tho as soon as the wall came down.
   103. 1k5v3L Posted: September 08, 2005 at 11:42 PM (#1606107)
You realize how few people can say that?

I do know quite a few of them. :) Meet them at conferences all the time. But I feel flattered that an American understands the global importance of TB research. Most people I meet in NYC ask me why I waste my time on that instead of studying cancer.
   104. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: September 08, 2005 at 11:43 PM (#1606109)
How many levskis does it take to change a lightbulb?
   105. 1k5v3L Posted: September 08, 2005 at 11:46 PM (#1606114)
Not Polish, not Russian either tho. But close.
   106. 1k5v3L Posted: September 08, 2005 at 11:51 PM (#1606123)
How many levskis does it take to change a lightbulb?

having a phd doesn't make you amazingly dextrous.

kevin, give you a hint. my brother lives in sofia.
   107. Joel W Posted: September 08, 2005 at 11:51 PM (#1606125)
The Levski is not weak (i.e. i'm guesing Ukraine)
   108. 1k5v3L Posted: September 08, 2005 at 11:53 PM (#1606136)
"i’m guesing Ukraine"

kavorka.
   109. 1k5v3L Posted: September 08, 2005 at 11:57 PM (#1606146)
lol, kevin, I wasn't connected to the communists. my father incidentally had plenty of problems with the party, for reasons I won't go into. But I am looking at some labs for post-docs right now, as well some positions in industry. Thus, if you know the CEO of Wyeth, eg, I'd gladly let you punch me in the face for a chance to get in touch with him...
   110. 1k5v3L Posted: September 08, 2005 at 11:58 PM (#1606148)
So, if we ignore the game, does it really exist? :)
   111. Joel W Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:00 AM (#1606150)
this is great, levski and kevin talking about jobs.
   112. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:00 AM (#1606152)
D'oh, I jinxed it. I had lost Internet access and just turned on Gameday for the top of the 4th inning. Right away, double, double, 1-0 Angels.
   113. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:01 AM (#1606153)
I'm actually looking to stay in the NYC metro area.
   114. Joel W Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:01 AM (#1606154)
wait, Kevin you're in DC? I haven't ever paid attention to the meetups.
   115. covelli chris p Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:02 AM (#1606155)
well the game is pretty boring.
   116. Joel W Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:02 AM (#1606157)
meh, if they just keep it to 1 or 2...they'll win.
   117. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:02 AM (#1606158)
JoelW, the love of science patched up the baseball differences.
   118. covelli chris p Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:04 AM (#1606163)
haha that was awesome!
   119. Joel W Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:04 AM (#1606164)
I love that Trot play.
   120. Joel W Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:05 AM (#1606167)
Scoscia is going to lose it.
   121. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:05 AM (#1606168)
Spoken truly from a man who won’t be missing the middle of the ballgame to watch The OC season premiere.

No offense, but you suck, dude.
   122. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:05 AM (#1606169)
LOL, kevin. Shouldn't you be a Braves fan in VA?
   123. covelli chris p Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:06 AM (#1606170)
hey i just had an idea, wonder why outfielders don't bobble fly balls on purpose and then catch them to goad hte runner into leaving early.
   124. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:07 AM (#1606177)
Chris, because they can't. The rule says the runner can leave after the fielder FIRST TOUCHES the ball.
   125. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:07 AM (#1606178)
Scoscia is going to lose it.

Is that why Gameday is hung up?

I have yet to figure out what I plan on doing with the mathematics degree I plan on getting.
   126. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:09 AM (#1606181)
Biff, you can always start a hedge fund.
   127. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:09 AM (#1606182)
What happened? Was OC out on appeal? Gameday had him tagging up originally.
   128. covelli chris p Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:09 AM (#1606183)
wow what a horrible call.
   129. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:10 AM (#1606186)
Is the home plate ump wearing eye makeup?
   130. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:10 AM (#1606187)
Wow, if the synch of the replays is correct, that was a terrible call at 2nd.
   131. Bob T Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:10 AM (#1606189)
How in the world does an umpire even check for a play like that? It's pretty hard for the second base umpire to see both Nixon and Cabrera.
   132. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:12 AM (#1606193)
That was an unbelievably horrible call. I don't know how you even try to make that call, given that the ball was out of sight for a lot of it, he had a bad angle to get both the catch and the base, and, well...it wasn't even close.
   133. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:14 AM (#1606200)
Although, having said that, Trot's throw made ME think "Appeal to second!" as soon as he turned to make the throw. I don't know why I had that reaction, as I almost never do, but it just looked like maybe Trot thought that he had him picked off, or something.

Maybe they just did a good job of selling it.
   134. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:14 AM (#1606203)
The O's owner got a sweet TV deal from mlb though so he doesn't care. And I knew why you were a Sox fan. The same reason I'm a Dbacks fan in NYC, I guess.

I appreciate your interest in my future career, btw, and your offer to help out. I've got too many ties to the NYC area right now though, so it probably won't be easy to leave here for a couple of years, which is why I'm looking for jobs here first. If you know anyone around here, I'll gladly listen...
   135. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:14 AM (#1606204)
Bob, I think he must get them both in his field of vision. IOW, he moves over toward third where he can see the runner and fielder at the same time. If he doesn't get there for some reason, I'd think he'd have to err on the runner's side. Or guess.
   136. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:17 AM (#1606212)
Back to baseball... which ghost entered Olerud's body?

Byrd has been a very good pick up for the Angels.
   137. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:17 AM (#1606217)
The same reason I’m a Dbacks fan in NYC, I guess.

Yeah, when you're born into that kind of tradition, you can never leave it behind.
   138. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:21 AM (#1606225)
And levski, if you'd be willing to go to Boston, there's a Biodefense Systems group at Lincoln Labs. It's hard to beat the stability of gummint work.
   139. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:21 AM (#1606226)
Funny, fly. But the Dbacks have had as many WS in my lifetime as the Red Sox. That's good enough for something, right? :)
   140. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:22 AM (#1606228)
Lincoln Labs? Care to elaborate?
   141. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:23 AM (#1606232)
Ah, part of MIT. Cool. I'll check it out right now.
   142. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:23 AM (#1606234)
MIT's FFRDC. Basically, we're a military contractor that doesn't really produce anything. We specialize in "Technology Transfer to Industry."

Fun R&D on Uncle Sam's dime.
   143. Shredder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:24 AM (#1606238)
Wow. I just walked in the door and saw the replay, but that is THE WORST CALL I HAVE EVER SEEN!! That was Don Denkinger in the 1985 World Series bad. I mean, it's not like Cabrera even gains an advantage from leaving early. He would have been safe by a mile anyway.

If Larry Young is anywhere near an Angels post-season game, I swear, I may bring a gun and shoot him. What a ####### dick of an umpire.
   144. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:25 AM (#1606243)
I was away from my desk for awhile. So The OC tagged up, but they said he left early, but it's obvious he didn't?

Do the Red Sox always get a homefield umpire advantage? I haven't seen one pitch in any game of this series, but from the descriptions on Chatter, it sounds like they got the benefit of terrible calls both here and on some Ortiz check swing yesterday.
   145. covelli chris p Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:26 AM (#1606248)
levski, if you work at lincoln labs, i can come by and punch you in the face! it's just down the street from my house.
   146. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:27 AM (#1606250)
funny, kevin. I meant AZ has WON as many WS as BOS.

I was just looking at the LL's website. Interesting stuff. I might not be able to work there until I get my US citizenship tho. Fine print.
   147. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:27 AM (#1606253)
The check swing was a bad call.

I don't hate the Angels, in fact I kind of still like 'em for crushing the MFY's in 2002. Good work.
   148. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:28 AM (#1606256)
chris, you weren't supposed to tell him that. I was setting Mikael up. (Was it Mikael? I forget. Either way, I'd be happy to punch levski by proxy if he shows up for an interview.)
   149. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:28 AM (#1606257)
great, chris. i'll probably issue tickets to reduce crowding.
   150. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:29 AM (#1606261)
Oooh. I was unaware of the lack of citizenship. Yeah, that would definetly be an issue.
   151. covelli chris p Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:30 AM (#1606265)
fly you work at lincoln labs?
   152. Joel W Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:31 AM (#1606268)
is there a reason this game is so boring?
   153. Shredder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:31 AM (#1606269)
Is there anyone on Earth who thinks the Angels can win this game?

Not with Cöck?ucker the Crew Chief out there.
   154. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:31 AM (#1606270)
Yeah. I thought you knew that. I'm a rocket scientist, remember?
   155. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:32 AM (#1606274)
Didn't Larry Young totally screw up some other game we played against Boston or someone? I remember there being some game where the home plate umpire just lost all sense of the strike zone in the ninth inning, but that afflicted both teams.
   156. Shredder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:35 AM (#1606286)
So The OC tagged up, but they said he left early, but it’s obvious he didn’t?

Nixon jumps, makes the catch, lands in the stands, hangs for a second, THEN Cabrera leaves. Not. Even. Close.

The check swing was a bad call.

Yeah, but it was close. It was bad, but I can live with an umpire screwing up that call. It happens. And it wasn't a clearly obvious swing. This play tonight was.....Little League umps, VOLUNTEER Little League umps don't screw up calls that bad.
   157. villageidiom Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:36 AM (#1606287)
this is great, levski and kevin talking about jobs.

So, is levski's father the district attorney, now?

On another note, through 5 innings, neither starter deserves to lose.
   158. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:36 AM (#1606293)
It was the Yankee series where Larry Young got all indecisive behind home. I knew it was an opponent that had a lot of Chatterers.

The next game, Young made the call at first that Jarron Washburn had missed first on a 3-6-1 DP attempt. From my vantage point in the ballpark that day, he was dead wrong, though the TV replays I saw later were highly inconclusive, and Jarrod did do a bad job of selling it.

I do prefer Larry Young to Doug Eddings, who didn't acknowledge that Catcher's Interference had happened when Darin Erstad's bat knocked John Buck's glove three feet away from his hand, as though Buck routinely just throws his glove off his hand in the attempt to catch balls on the outside corner.
   159. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:40 AM (#1606302)
Was Larry Young still after more payback due to last night's incident? That's the best explanation I can think of.

The only other thing I can think of is that he didn't see Trot actually catch it and he misinterpreted something as the catch which actually happened a second after it.
   160. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:42 AM (#1606312)
g'night, y'all. time to head home. knowing that my team is out of any meaningful race has allowed me to watch other baseball games again, and enjoy them too. i am looking forward to some october baseball.

good chatting with you, kevin. [and i promise myself to never ever enter a discussion about steroids in which you're partaking :) i mean, what does it matter if giambi juiced, right? it's just a game.
   161. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:42 AM (#1606313)
I'll trade you Joe West and CB Bucknor for Eddings and Young.
   162. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:47 AM (#1606328)
I always hear people complaining about Joe West, but I can't really recall witnessing any major transgressions of his. Of course, I don't really pay attention to the umps unless they really screw up in an Angel game or notably in a playoff game.
   163. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:51 AM (#1606334)
Paul Byrd owns the Red Sox.
   164. Bob T Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:53 AM (#1606341)
But the D-Rays still own the Yankees.
   165. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:57 AM (#1606354)
Was that intentional?
   166. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:59 AM (#1606366)
If we get shut out by Paul Freaking Byrd on a night when we could take a 5 game lead heading into a Yankees series in New York, I'm not going to be very happy.

Joe West isn't necessarily a bad umpire, but he's a real jerk when he defends bad/disputed calls. It's one thing to be firm and confident in the calls you make; it's another to be arrogant and confrontational about it.
   167. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:01 AM (#1606369)
I always hear people complaining about Joe West, but I can’t really recall witnessing any major transgressions of his.

I agree, I can't recall any particular mistakes. With Joe, it's more an attitude thing that's annoying to me; I've seen him incite players and managers in situations where most umps would de-escalate rather than incite.

I actually would have named someone else if I could have thought of his name --- (Googles) -- yeah, Ted Barrett is worse.
   168. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:01 AM (#1606370)
Arghdammit, just get a ####### out
   169. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:03 AM (#1606379)
Tiger Wang looks like a pussycat after all.

See also: Cornejo, Nate, 2003
   170. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:04 AM (#1606381)
Now that you guys mention it, I do remember West being somewhat confrontational.
   171. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:04 AM (#1606383)
Clement throws so many pitches that just miss really badly.

He also takes ~ 45 seconds bt. pitches when there are men on base.
   172. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:05 AM (#1606387)
Good hustle! 3 runs -- that's some sort of team record, isn't it?
   173. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:06 AM (#1606389)
I believe West was a key ump in the two big calls that were reversed in Game 6, 2004 ALCS.

This inning sucks, and the key play was another 0-2 hit. I hate 0-2 hits.
   174. Josh Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:06 AM (#1606390)
R Quinlan grounded into fielders choice to shortstop, D Erstad scored, C Kotchman out at second.
C Kotchman grounded into fielders choice to first, B Molina out at second, D Erstad to third.
B Molina grounded into fielders choice to shortstop, V Guerrero scored, D Erstad to second.


WTF? None of these turn into double plays, and one doesn't even turn into an out?!?!
   175. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:06 AM (#1606392)
Yes Josh.
   176. Josh Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:09 AM (#1606405)
It is times like these that make me glad to be at work (thankfully, too, not for a biotech lab!) so I don't throw things at the TV.
   177. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:10 AM (#1606407)
Throw strikes, Abe!!!
   178. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:10 AM (#1606408)
REMOVE ABE NOW!
   179. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:12 AM (#1606417)
IT'S CHONE FIGGINS! THROW HIM A STRIKE!
   180. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:13 AM (#1606418)
Now Francona comes out. The poor guy is just overmatched trying to handle a pitching staff.
   181. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:15 AM (#1606425)
This is the price you pay for the Tito loyalty stuff. He almost always waits until it's an absolute non-brainer before he takes a vet starter out in a regular season game.
   182. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:16 AM (#1606430)
Hooray for the Clement implosion!
   183. Josh Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:20 AM (#1606441)
J Olerud reached on infield single to second.

This may be the oddest game evah.
   184. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:25 AM (#1606454)
'Rays in the process of blowing another lead to the 'Roidin' Yanks. Now 6-4.

Why can't we hit this hump Bird? Hw throws abosolute crap up there. He walks nobody, which helps.
   185. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:37 AM (#1606489)
KFF! He actually has good numbers at home for the year now. Just limit drasticly his AB's on the road, Tito.
   186. Josh Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:37 AM (#1606490)
Nice!

Tito: PINCH RUNNER.
   187. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:39 AM (#1606494)
Jack Daniels?
   188. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:39 AM (#1606497)
Manny time.
   189. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:40 AM (#1606500)
At least Bird's ouuta there.

Where is everybody? There's a pennant race on.
   190. Josh Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:41 AM (#1606502)
Manny time.

One of the most fun aspects of this team is that they are never out of it.

Still, there should be a pinch runner for Millar. TITO!
   191. villageidiom Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:43 AM (#1606510)
Where is everybody? There’s a pennant race on.

I'm here. I just got nothin' to say.
   192. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:46 AM (#1606519)
Josh, he could PR with Cora, but with a 3-run deficit, he'd rather be sure that he has Millar avaiable to bat in the ninth. If it was one run, it'd be different.
   193. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:47 AM (#1606521)
Crap. Perfect pitch.
   194. Josh Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:50 AM (#1606531)
Josh, he could PR with Cora, but with a 3-run deficit, he’d rather be sure that he has Millar avaiable to bat in the ninth. If it was one run, it’d be different.

I suppose it depends on the how good of a batter you really think Millar is. I'd like to see, with the expanded rosters, Tito pinch run with Machado. Then, bring in Kapler for defense. When that spot comes back up, there is still Petagine on the bench (and Stern for defense).

I think Millar is so bad a runner, and each run important, that I'd rather see this happen. But, you are right, this isn't the 9th.
   195. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:56 AM (#1606544)
####. There goes the game.
   196. The Original SJ Posted: September 09, 2005 at 01:58 AM (#1606547)
CAn someone get Yaz to take that ####### trophy back?
   197. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: September 09, 2005 at 02:01 AM (#1606554)
I can't believe I'm watching pitches of this series live!

Shields sounded money in the car.
   198. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: September 09, 2005 at 02:03 AM (#1606558)
Hmm, strike 3 to Bengie was further outside than ball 3 was. Nice makeup call, guy.

How were Shields' pitches? Good/consistent calls?
   199. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 09, 2005 at 02:04 AM (#1606563)
D Rays have beaten the Yanks. 7-4 final.
   200. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 09, 2005 at 02:05 AM (#1606566)
Shields was good Hawk. Calls were close enough to go either way
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