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   1. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:09 PM (#2113013)
We are going to get swept by the Cubs. You are kidding me. Pedro, we miss you. And I don't care if Glavine #######, he better take some starts off in September. We need him fresh for the playoffs.
   2. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:14 PM (#2113021)
Yeah, walk Juan Pierre. Excellent. You imbecile.
   3. Sweet Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:14 PM (#2113023)
Ah, another rehab start for Prior. Good thing these games don't count for anything. Oh, wait . . .
   4. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:14 PM (#2113024)
RAMON CASTRO IS ####### AWESOME!
   5. Bob Koo Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:15 PM (#2113026)
Ramon Castro is such a better catcher than Lo Duca, it's off the charts.
   6. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:15 PM (#2113027)
Well, Castro rocks, at least.
   7. Bob Koo Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:16 PM (#2113028)
OFF seems a little fired up.
   8. villainx Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:18 PM (#2113029)
I don't understand the obsession with a 4/5 starter. Pedro, Glavine, and ? looks like a shaky rotation for the playoffs.

What did Castro do?
   9. villainx Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:18 PM (#2113031)
Oh, he threw out Pierre. Good job.
   10. Bob Koo Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:19 PM (#2113035)
It's nice to not give up any runs in the first inning.
   11. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:20 PM (#2113037)
Well, I only slept five hours to be able to watch this, and I'll be really pissed off if its a loss.
   12. villainx Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:21 PM (#2113039)
Is Pagan supposedly the player to pay attention to in terms of watching the Cubs?
   13. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:22 PM (#2113042)
I don't understand the obsession with a 4/5 starter. Pedro, Glavine, and ? looks like a shaky rotation for the playoffs.

It scares the living hell out of me that Maine might be the Mets best starter in the rotation at the moment.

So, with that in mind... from a Metsblog conversation with Buster Olney:

Additionally, Olney points out that Beane may be willing to part with Zito for just Aaron Heilman, as long as the Mets filled in with other prospects, Beane would pull the trigger…

Any of you like that idea? Depends on the "other prospects" of course...
   14. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:23 PM (#2113043)
Every day should be getaway day. You can't beat four separate waves of baseball goodness.
   15. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:24 PM (#2113044)
It scares the living hell out of me that Maine might be the Mets best starter in the rotation at the moment.

That's not really worrisome. The problem will be if that's the case in October.
   16. Spahn Insane Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:25 PM (#2113046)
We are going to get swept by the Cubs.

No, you're not. Prior is not a major league pitcher at this point in time. And the Cubs never hit starters they haven't seen before, even crappy ones, which Maine isn't.
   17. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:25 PM (#2113049)
Endy should steal second, third and home.
   18. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:26 PM (#2113050)
So, Cubs fans, is Prior anywhere close to being healthy for this start?
   19. villainx Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:26 PM (#2113052)
Every day should be getaway day. You can't beat four separate waves of baseball goodness.

How much longer would the season be if this were to happen?
   20. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:27 PM (#2113053)
Because he looks like #### so far.
   21. Spahn Insane Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:27 PM (#2113055)
Personally, I think Prior's toast, but that's just one man's opinion.
   22. Jerry Mumphrey Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:27 PM (#2113056)
Pagan came from the Mets, I believe. He's one to watch if you're enamored by pure athletes who have trouble reaching base even in the minors. Dusty of course is real high on him.
   23. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:30 PM (#2113060)
I'm not sure I'd trade Heilman and a prospect for Zito, but I'm liking the idea of letting Glavine walk, getting the picks, and signing Barry. I would be willing to reconsider if Glav gives us a hefty discount, though.
   24. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:31 PM (#2113061)
Well, Delgado did his best to make Prior look good right there.
   25. villainx Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:32 PM (#2113063)
Any of you like that idea? Depends on the "other prospects" of course...

The Mets should be willing to pay a heavy price to get a front line pitcher. The way baseball goes, who knows when the next post season will be. If the heavy price doesn't include Pelfrey or Milledge, it should be tolerable.

Zito can be above average for the postseason. So why not? I just can't see the starting pitching as good enough to win it all.
   26. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:32 PM (#2113064)
You know what, the Mets should just trade for a bunch of relievers and let Heilman start. Can he really be any worse than Steve Trachsel?
   27. Jerry Mumphrey Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:32 PM (#2113065)
Prior lowered his ERA by a quarter-point that inning.
   28. Sweet Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:35 PM (#2113070)
Pagan came from the Mets, I believe. He's one to watch if you're enamored by pure athletes who have trouble reaching base even in the minors. Dusty of course is real high <strike>on him</strike>.

Fixed.

One of the funnier quotes of the season was Baker trying to the blame the dismal May/June skid on Pagan's absence.
   29. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:36 PM (#2113071)
Can he really be any worse than Steve Trachsel?

He might not be any better though. Heilman sort of sucks now. Granted, I'm inclined to believe that's because he lost his mind after the Mets started Lima so many times.
   30. Bob Koo Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:36 PM (#2113072)
Didn't the Mets re-do Glavine's contract so that there's a mutual option for next year?

I'm warming to the idea of acquiring Zito. If he doesn't re-sign here, the two first-round picks aren't bad compensation.
   31. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:36 PM (#2113073)
Remember when levski tried to convince us that Carlos Quentin was a better prospect than Angel Pagan?
   32. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:38 PM (#2113080)
I'm warming to the idea of acquiring Zito. If he doesn't re-sign here, the two first-round picks aren't bad compensation.

Definitely. If he could be had for Heilman and a B prospect, I probably do that deal.

Heilman and Carlos Gomez for Zito?
   33. villainx Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:39 PM (#2113082)
You know what, the Mets should just trade for a bunch of relievers and let Heilman start. Can he really be any worse than Steve Trachsel?

That's the annoying part of not starting Heilman earlier in the season. The Mets could find out if he had good stuff and also allow him to build his arms to maybe be part of the post season rotation. Now, the Mets don't have as much time to fill the post season rotation. Even if Heilman gets the chance, the truncated time frame won't give the Mets enough time to know how much they can count on Heilman.

By the way, for my fantasy league team, I decided to spot start any half decent pitcher playing against the Cubs. They don't have any danger bat, are free swingers, and don't get on base. Which is what I did with Maine today. Hopefully it won't back fire.
   34. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:39 PM (#2113085)
WAIT A MINUTE. RICK PETERSON IS NOT WEARING THE JACKET!!!!
   35. villainx Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:41 PM (#2113087)
I don't understand how the Mets haven't scored a ton of runs already.
   36. villainx Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:43 PM (#2113091)
#34's all caps somehow makes sense.
   37. CrazyAboutLou Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:43 PM (#2113092)
Nice throw Barret!
   38. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:44 PM (#2113095)
I thought David got his hand in, but the ball beat him.

Pagan showing why he's considered one of the best prospects in baseball.
   39. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:52 PM (#2113108)
How about a bloop and a blast right here?
   40. Bob Koo Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:55 PM (#2113112)
Maine pitching well. Gotta like what we're getting out of him right now. It's too bad he had that finger injury a while back that caused him to miss substantial time.
   41. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 04:58 PM (#2113118)
Castro's speed goes from non-existant to glacial . His new nickname should be 0 to 60.
   42. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:03 PM (#2113121)
Don't look now, but the hollow shell of flesh that used to house Mark Prior is pitching a nohitter.
   43. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:03 PM (#2113124)
Good thing Prior is not a MLB pitcher right now. He only has a no hitter through three.
   44. Jerry Mumphrey Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:06 PM (#2113128)
Wow, now Prior's ERA is down a full point. I say pull him out until July 31st.
   45. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:07 PM (#2113132)
That was a beautiful play by Beltran. He's so nice to watch.
   46. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:08 PM (#2113135)
Beltran is like a gazelle out there.
   47. Spahn Insane Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:12 PM (#2113141)
Good thing Prior is not a MLB pitcher right now. He only has a no hitter through three.

Patience.

I think this may be the first time he's gone 3 innings without allowing a run this year, let alone allowing a hit.
   48. Chris Dial Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:12 PM (#2113143)
You know what, the Mets should just trade for a bunch of relievers and let Heilman start. Can he really be any worse than Steve Trachsel?


Let's see, being a reliever lowers your ERA by about a run. What's Heilman at now? Pass.
   49. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:13 PM (#2113145)
Great job by Maine to pick up the Stache there.
   50. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:13 PM (#2113146)
Following on Gameday, Maine is spotting his pitches really nicely

Don't know how accurate it is, but working the corners nicely
   51. Chris Dial Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:15 PM (#2113148)
Let's go Beltran, Delgado Wright!
   52. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:15 PM (#2113149)
I will never use the word nicely again
   53. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:15 PM (#2113150)
Davidnity is going to break no hitter. Book it.
   54. CrazyAboutLou Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:21 PM (#2113155)
</blockquote>Davidnity is going to break no hitter. Book it.

Ooops. Wrong. Still a no-no.
   55. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:21 PM (#2113156)
Goddammit. I'm getting really pissed off now.
   56. CrazyAboutLou Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:23 PM (#2113159)
<blockquote>Goddammit. I'm getting really pissed off now.

You should be pissed. This is the fourth inning in a row that Prior WALKED the leadoff batter and no one has moved a baserunner.
   57. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:23 PM (#2113160)
This is getting somewhat outrageous.
   58. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:24 PM (#2113166)
Why isn't Beltran stealing some bases anyway? He should have been going there.
   59. Meatwad Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:24 PM (#2113167)
im not evenwatching the game too hot in my house im sitting in my garage.....and yet the mets may get swept by the cubs
   60. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:24 PM (#2113165)
The strikes to Delgado and Wright were heart of the plate according to this thing too, I was surprised none of them went for hits or bombs
   61. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:24 PM (#2113168)
It will be quite irksome to O's fans if Maine becomes a league-average SP.
   62. Spahn Insane Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:25 PM (#2113172)
Actually, he walked the second batter in the first, but still. Point taken.
   63. Spahn Insane Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:26 PM (#2113174)
70 pitches through 4. No-no or not, I predict no complete game.
   64. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:28 PM (#2113177)
Pagan looks good.

It will be quite irksome to O's fans if Maine becomes a league-average SP.

Why? You guys got an ace for a fringy starter and a bad reliever.
   65. Joshemy Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:28 PM (#2113178)
John Maine rocks.
   66. Spahn Insane Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:29 PM (#2113180)
Or the Cub offense blows. Little of column a, little of column b...
   67. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:32 PM (#2113186)
If Maine looked anything other than completely hopeless and awful in his O's callups he'd be in our rotation right now.
   68. CrazyAboutLou Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:33 PM (#2113189)
Where did all this defensive greatness come from Barrett?
   69. CrazyAboutLou Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:34 PM (#2113192)
Has anyone seen the clock on Prior? I'm wondering what kind of velocity he has going...
   70. Meatwad Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:36 PM (#2113195)
the impending trade deadline
   71. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:37 PM (#2113196)
So, if Prior has a nohitter going, will Dusty let him throw 120+ pitches?
   72. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:38 PM (#2113199)
Has anyone seen the clock on Prior? I'm wondering what kind of velocity he has going...

Low 90s. I think he might have touched 93 once or twice, but it's been mostly 90-92.
   73. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:39 PM (#2113201)
Ah, another rehab start for Prior. Good thing these games don't count for anything. Oh, wait . . .

I certainly agree with the principle that a player who is still rehabbing and getting up to speed should be in the minors -- putting him in an MLB uniform doesn't do the team any good if the team has better options. I've said as much throughout this season, wrt Wood and Lee.

OTOH, at this point in the season, I don't think it makes much difference as far as Prior is concerned. The team is out of any semblance of contention and they have a bit of a pitching crunch at the big league level anyway -- the club won't be gaining anything by having Prior start in Iowa.

I suppose one can say that if they started Prior in Iowa, they could give a start or two to Jerome Williams or Jae Kuk Ryu, but what's the point?
   74. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:40 PM (#2113203)
Yes, I realize how Prior has done, but I still wanted to state my thoughts regardless.
   75. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:41 PM (#2113207)
Ugh, Delgado.
   76. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:41 PM (#2113208)
Delgado messed up what would have been an amazing play by Valentin.
   77. Moses Taylor loves a good maim Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:41 PM (#2113210)
So, if Prior has a nohitter going, will Dusty let him throw 120+ pitches?

Without a ############# doubt. He'll throw 150 if he has to. It won't ever get to that point.

---

Man, the Mets suck.

---

Why is everyone so ####### high on Heilman here?
   78. Spahn Insane Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:42 PM (#2113211)
So, if Prior has a nohitter going, will Dusty let him throw 120+ pitches?

No. He might if he were on pace to complete the game in that many pitches, but he's on pace to throw over 150.
   79. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:42 PM (#2113212)
Delgado messed up what would have been an amazing play by Valentin.
   80. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:44 PM (#2113214)
I'm confident that Dusty won't be put to that decision.

He might still let Prior throw 150 pitches, though.
   81. Moses Taylor loves a good maim Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:46 PM (#2113216)
No. He might if he were on pace to complete the game in that many pitches, but he's on pace to throw over 150.

You're a much more trusting soul than I.
   82. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:46 PM (#2113217)
I have to admit that I'm pretty happy about my general ability to translate swears by the context and number of # signs.

I know it's not a special gift or anything, though.
   83. Moses Taylor loves a good maim Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:47 PM (#2113218)
I have to admit that I'm pretty happy about my general ability to translate swears by the context and number of # signs.

I'm still pissed about dongwranlger getting nannied.

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Good to see Jones ".300 OPS against lefties" Jones hitting cleanup today.
   84. Moses Taylor loves a good maim Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:48 PM (#2113219)
dongwranlger

Whoops. I guess that isn't nannied if spelled incorrectly.
   85. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:49 PM (#2113220)
Why is everyone so ####### high on Heilman here?

I'm not anymore. He's got the mental toughness of a, uh, something that doesn't have any mental toughness.

Beane apparently likes him though.
   86. Bob Koo Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:49 PM (#2113221)
Remember the Maine!
   87. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:50 PM (#2113222)
Completely awesome job by Maine there. Lets get him some runs.

I expect Reyes to try to bunt here.
   88. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:50 PM (#2113223)
I'm still pissed about dongwranlger getting nannied.

I'm more amazed than pissed, especially when you consider what she lets through.

You can say dong.
You can say wrangler.
You can say dong wrangler.
You can say dong-wrangler.
You just can't combine the two without a space or hyphen.
   89. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:50 PM (#2113224)
Good to see Jones ".300 OPS against lefties" Jones hitting cleanup today.

He does have a .917 OPS against righties and Maine is a righty.
   90. Banta Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:51 PM (#2113225)
This has been a pretty encouraging start from Maine today. He didn't have his best stuff (or at least, not nearly as good as his complete game from what I'm hearing) and yet he's pitched a nice game. This is what I wanted to see.
   91. Neil M Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:51 PM (#2113226)
a start or two to Jerome Williams

He threw a 5-hit shutout on Sunday - the only CG by a Cubs pitcher above AA this season. That's dismal.
   92. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:52 PM (#2113228)
I also think it's funny that we actually tested the nanny on that one. It certainly isn't an epithet I use frequently.

I've used it much more since we discovered it was nannied. I'm not sure I used it at all before then.
   93. Bob Koo Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:52 PM (#2113229)
I love how Maine had confidence in his fastball to get the key outs.
We really could use a Reyes run. It's been a while.
   94. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:54 PM (#2113234)
the only CG by a Cubs pitcher above AA this season.

I would have guessed Rich Hill had at least 1. maybe he's striking too many people out to last long enough.
   95. Meatwad Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:55 PM (#2113235)
how is it the mets are failing to eat the cubs? come on now its the ####### cubs you shouldnt be in position to get swept.... i hope this starts a tailslide and lets the braves win the division
   96. Meatwad Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:56 PM (#2113236)
djf it was banned the next day not enough time to use it before it was banned
   97. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:57 PM (#2113237)
the ####### cubs

the f'ing cubs, right?
   98. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:58 PM (#2113239)
Dusty is a great manager.
   99. Moses Taylor loves a good maim Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:59 PM (#2113240)
Good to see Jones ".300 OPS against lefties" Jones hitting cleanup today.

I'd like to say that's just his nickname, but ESPN gamecast misled me.

He threw a 5-hit shutout on Sunday - the only CG by a Cubs pitcher above AA this season. That's dismal.

I had no idea that he was in AA.

This has been a pretty encouraging start from Maine today. He didn't have his best stuff (or at least, not nearly as good as his complete game from what I'm hearing) and yet he's pitched a nice game. This is what I wanted to see.

It doesn't count. It's the Cubs. This start means nothing. Trust us.
   100. Meatwad Posted: July 26, 2006 at 05:59 PM (#2113241)
of course
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