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   1. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 20, 2006 at 07:43 PM (#2183268)
IPOR hit a homer!!! World peace, the end of hunger, and curing cancer seem a lot more likely now.

Small sample size alert:

1) Oliver Perez's numbers in his last two starts. 2.57 ERA, 14 IP, 17 strikeouts, 3 walks, and only one homer allowed.

2) Milledge has a .351 OBP since being recalled. He isn't hitting for power but I was surprised that he was getting on base that much.
   2. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 20, 2006 at 08:33 PM (#2183315)
   3. Rob Base Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:07 PM (#2183452)
Give me athleticism and I'll show you on-base percentage.
   4. Rob Base Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:12 PM (#2183456)
So...is there going to be a game today?
   5. Rob Base Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:20 PM (#2183465)
I am god here!
   6. Rob Base Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:22 PM (#2183470)
Reyes is too.
   7. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:24 PM (#2183474)
I'm here. Reyes rules.
   8. Rob Base Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:30 PM (#2183478)
Delgado > Jacobs
   9. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:33 PM (#2183480)
Perez is a little wild early on.
   10. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:39 PM (#2183487)
YAY METS! 100 wins... and GO!
   11. Free Rob Base Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:40 PM (#2183489)
What happened to that lone Marlins fan yappin' about how scared the Mets were of the Marlins.
   12. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:41 PM (#2183490)
Green sucks, but he looked safe.
   13. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:41 PM (#2183492)
Endy Chavez is a better player than Green. It's not even particularly close.
   14. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:46 PM (#2183498)
Better than Green equals damning with faint praise.
   15. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:49 PM (#2183499)
Better than Green equals damning with faint praise.
I'd dare say Lastings Milledge is a better player than Green...
   16. Sam M. Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:50 PM (#2183500)
Endy Chavez is a better player than Green. It's not even particularly close.

Other players who are better than Shawn Green:

Bruce Boisclair
Hugo Chavez
Carol Burnett
Mick Jagger
Alberto Gonzales
Jodie Foster
Rey Ordonez

And of course, the ultimate damning with faint praise: Roger Cedeno.
   17. Rob Base Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:56 PM (#2183507)
But Green is the best Jew on that list.
   18. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:57 PM (#2183508)
That was right down the middle, what is he arguing about?
   19. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 20, 2006 at 11:58 PM (#2183509)
Remember when someone put Cedeno for sale on eBay? That was funny.
   20. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:01 AM (#2183513)
Blow Duca sucks.
   21. Free Rob Base Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:07 AM (#2183516)
Bruce Boisclair

Well done. One of my all time favorites.
   22. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:07 AM (#2183517)
If Paulie ever stops getting those singles, if offensive numbers are going to look pretty lousy.

I'll worry about it in the off season, hopefully while wondering how he won the world series MVP.
   23. Free Rob Base Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:08 AM (#2183518)
Yeah -- Piazza and Cameron would be looking pretty good right about now.
   24. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:10 AM (#2183521)
that Willis kid is good.
   25. Rob Base Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:11 AM (#2183523)
Alternatives to Lo Duca are pretty slim. Hopefully Flores takes a leap forward next year. It's entirely possible - he's hit .266/.335/.487 in the FSL this year with 21 jacks. Those numbers could look much better in Binghamton if he matures(he's 21).

Other than that, I don't see where we improve on Lo Duca in the medium term.
   26. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:12 AM (#2183524)
if we had cameron, we wouldn't have ollie perez.

i'd rather have perez.
   27. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:13 AM (#2183526)
That wasn't good.
   28. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:14 AM (#2183527)
I was just joining in to praise Ollie. Oops.
   29. Free Rob Base Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:14 AM (#2183528)
i'd rather have perez.

You cannot be serious.
   30. Rob Base Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:16 AM (#2183531)

You cannot be serious.


I would also rather have Perez. Maybe not at this moment, but in general.
   31. Rob Base Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:17 AM (#2183534)
Not to mention that the Cameron for Nady swap enabled Omar to get Delgado.
   32. Free Rob Base Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:21 AM (#2183538)
You guys are nuts about perez. He's a tease.

I ran a baseball reference on bosclair and one of his some similiar was Alex Ochoa. How awesone.
   33. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:25 AM (#2183542)
I would also rather have Perez. Maybe not at this moment, but in general.

Its a tough call because the pitcher's value is always volatile. The 2004 model of Ollie is a pretty valuable property.
   34. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:28 AM (#2183543)
I ran a baseball reference on bosclair and one of his some similiar was Alex Ochoa. How awesone.

Don't get too excited. If you run a BR on Richie Scheinblum and click on the best player on the comp list and do it again and again for several minutes, you will get to Ralph Kiner.
   35. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:32 AM (#2183547)
how much longer is cameron signed for?
   36. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:33 AM (#2183550)
I think Cameron is a FA after the year.
   37. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:34 AM (#2183552)
how much longer is cameron signed for?

I think through next year. Sam and I first met in a forum discussing Cameron's signing.
   38. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:38 AM (#2183558)
Cameron has a $7 million option for next year. I can't see SD not picking it up.
   39. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:40 AM (#2183560)
A solid outing for Perez. I've been very encouraged by his last few starts.
   40. Sam M. Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:43 AM (#2183562)
Sam and I first met in a forum discussing Cameron's signing.

My very first posting on Primer compared Marcos Scutaro to Kelvin Chapman. Everyone was all upset the Mets wouldn't play Scutaro, he was so good, etc. I came on and said -- well yeah, he should be playing, I didn't disagree. But in the scheme of things, he wasn't that important. By the time the Mets were ready to win, he would be to THAT Mets' team what Chapman '84 was to the '86 Mets. That is: long gone. So did it really matter?

Man, I hit that one pretty good. Someone -- I think it might have been Met Fan Charlie -- said, something like, "Hey, you don't see people mention Kelvin Chapman very often." And you know, he was right. We need to revive the memory of Kelvin Chapman. Let's get Wally Backman on to this crusade!
   41. Sam M. Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:47 AM (#2183564)
I have to think Uggla should be the ROY. Great year for this guy, and the Rule 5 thing has to give him a boost, too.
   42. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:49 AM (#2183567)
Part of the pro-Scutaro sentiment was actually anti-McEwing.

Chapman's collapse was one of the reasons the '86 Mets weren't going for a repeat title.
   43. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:51 AM (#2183568)
There is a PERFECT example of what Reyes can do. Willis goes to the slidestep and LoDuca goes crush.
   44. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:52 AM (#2183569)
Great start to the inning. Let's go Delgado!
   45. Sam M. Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:53 AM (#2183571)
Chapman's collapse was one of the reasons the '86 Mets weren't going for a repeat title.

Well, yes, kind of. But there was really only ONE reason the '86 Mets weren't going for a repeat title: Darryl Strawberry busted his thumb diving for a fly ball, and missed 50 games. (Well, at least that would have gotten them into the NLCS in 1985. After that, who knows?)
   46. Sam M. Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:55 AM (#2183573)
What a shot that was. Boom goes the dynamite.
   47. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:55 AM (#2183574)
That was misplayed a tad.
   48. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:55 AM (#2183576)
Darryl Strawberry busted his thumb diving for a fly ball, and missed 50 games.

Chapman was one of the reasons. IIRC, the team was under.500 without Straw.
   49. Raskolnikov Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:57 AM (#2183577)
I loved Kelvin Chapman. He was my favorite baseball card. I remember disliking Teufel for a long time because he was replacing Chapman. Funny how your perception can change over time.
   50. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:57 AM (#2183579)
20 steals for Wright.
   51. Sam M. Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:58 AM (#2183580)
And Wright joins the 20/20 club!!!
   52. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:59 AM (#2183581)
Just to make everyone feel old; I have never heard of Kelvin Chapman.
   53. Raskolnikov Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:00 AM (#2183584)
Ron Gardenhire was also one of my favorite ballplayers. Funny how he would make his mark more as a manager than as a player.
   54. Sam M. Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:02 AM (#2183587)
I have never heard of Kelvin Chapman.

You did, however, go look him up on Baseball Reference, right? And now you know he was, for a brief instant, Wally Backman's very effective platoon partner at second base, until he crashed and burned in 1985?
   55. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:04 AM (#2183595)
You did, however, go look him up on Baseball Reference, right?

He hit .306 at Wausau in 1977 too.
   56. Raskolnikov Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:04 AM (#2183600)
BTW, since we're going down memory lane. As a pinch-hitter, Mazzilli > Heep > MFranco.
   57. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:05 AM (#2183604)
Yes I looked him up. I see he was pretty good in '84, but I didn't know he was Backman's platoon partner.
   58. Sam M. Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:06 AM (#2183605)
Bradford seems to be getting the ball up tonight. On the walk, and then on that line drive hit. Or am I imagining things?
   59. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:07 AM (#2183609)
I loved Scutaro. But I never thought he'd be Ozzie Smith. I just knew he was better than a lot of other stiffs who got more of a chance.
   60. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:12 AM (#2183617)
Endy is good.
   61. Sam M. Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:13 AM (#2183619)
Endy-ing the inning!!!
   62. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:13 AM (#2183620)
Chavez is GOD.
   63. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:15 AM (#2183623)
Scutaro was a Bobby V. guy. He was effectively gone with the regime change.
   64. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:16 AM (#2183627)
Fan yells after Green K's: I want Nady back.
   65. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:26 AM (#2183637)
An actual good throw from Lo Duca.
   66. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:26 AM (#2183638)
Can we trade for Dontrelle to play RF next year?
   67. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:26 AM (#2183639)
Another one!?!?
   68. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:27 AM (#2183641)
wtf
   69. Sam M. Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:27 AM (#2183643)
Oh, come on. If I were there, I'd give him a standing O for that. That's amazing.
   70. Hot Wheeling American Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:28 AM (#2183644)
I'll say it - that was disappointing
   71. zack Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:28 AM (#2183645)
That's not right.
   72. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:30 AM (#2183648)
Way to go, Blow Duca.
   73. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:30 AM (#2183649)
Blow Duca is terrible.
   74. Joshemy Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:30 AM (#2183650)
Dontrelle Willis has 3 homeruns this season. All of them are vs. the Mets. At Shea Stadium.

The two tonight and then one in Jose Lima's last Met start. That was a grand slam to rightfield, which he absolutely crushed.
   75. Joshemy Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:31 AM (#2183652)
I also forgot to mention that I was at the game that was Jose Lima's last start. Dontrelle really hit a no doubter off him.
   76. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:33 AM (#2183656)
The Kool-Aid is flavorless tonight.
   77. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:37 AM (#2183660)
So I love Kool Aid, but he shouldn't make the roster, should he?
   78. Sam M. Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:43 AM (#2183667)
I just purchased, and am currently downloading, the clincher. Starting my "for posterity" collection. :-)
   79. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:44 AM (#2183669)
This game is pissing me off for some odd reason. I think it's because we've never beaten this ####### in our building and I really can't stand his overreaching enthusiasm unless we're smacking him around.
   80. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:50 AM (#2183677)
Humber warming again. Any chance he actually gets into this (or any) game?
   81. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:51 AM (#2183681)
That was a great PA by Jacobs.
   82. Srul Itza Posted: September 21, 2006 at 01:58 AM (#2183688)
Has anybody commented on the unbelievably hacktastic way the Mets are playing this game?

57 pitches seen through 8 innings?

16 one pitch at bats?

Are they all double-parked or something?
   83. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 21, 2006 at 02:07 AM (#2183695)
Are they all double-parked or something?
They are trying to piss Emad off and doing a damn good job of it.
   84. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: September 21, 2006 at 02:10 AM (#2183701)
By 57, you mean 107, right?
   85. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 21, 2006 at 02:11 AM (#2183704)
Thank you, Mike. You have won a spot on the roster.
   86. Srul Itza Posted: September 21, 2006 at 02:18 AM (#2183715)
By 57, you mean 107, right?

There must have been some glitch on CBS Sporstline. It showed 57 pitches through 8, and if you counted up the pitches on the play by play, it matched.
   87. Srul Itza Posted: September 21, 2006 at 02:20 AM (#2183720)
It is fixed now on the Game Center page, but the play by play is still missing a LOT of pitches.

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