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   101. not your average baseball fan Posted: September 15, 2006 at 11:59 PM (#2178222)
well this is demoralizing. So if the Mets lose this game, do we want the Phillies to lose so the Mets clinch? Or do we want them to win on the field tomorrow?
   102. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:00 AM (#2178223)
There is no way in the world the ump should call that an HBP. That is ludicrous.
   103. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:01 AM (#2178224)
Is Pedro on a pitch count tonight? He's already at 68.
   104. not your average baseball fan Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:02 AM (#2178225)
ugh Clemens is pitching for Houston. That settles it, I can't root for Houston. Well the Mets have have come back from worse before.
   105. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:02 AM (#2178226)
Results not good. But performance actually fine. He's had good stuff (both velocity and movement), and his leg has held up. Just a couple of bad pitches, really -- especially the nothing pitch in a bad spot to Doumit. I'd call this encouraging, despite the runs given up.
   106. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:03 AM (#2178227)
Is Pedro on a pitch count tonight? He's already at 68.

Well, Oliver was up that inning and Cohen said that might be Pedro's last inning.
   107. not your average baseball fan Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:04 AM (#2178229)
oh no --Pedro is crying. That can't be good.
   108. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:04 AM (#2178230)
He's had good stuff (both velocity and movement), and his leg has held up.

That's pretty much all I was looking for.
   109. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:04 AM (#2178231)
But that reaction in the dugout isn't good -- at all. That looks like he's hurt. Uh-oh.
   110. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:04 AM (#2178232)
Even though he has allowed 4 runs in 3 innings, Pedro looks good all things considered. He hit 90 when he needed to against Bay, threw some nice curves, and did struck out 4 hitters.
   111. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:05 AM (#2178233)
oh no --Pedro is crying.

And petitioning God, it looks like. That's not a good sign either.
   112. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:05 AM (#2178234)
I'd call this encouraging, despite the runs given up.
Pedro crying in the dugout isn't encouraging.
   113. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:05 AM (#2178235)
somehow i get the feeling i know you, not your average baseball fan.

and if he was hurt, they'd have people fussing over him.
   114. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:07 AM (#2178238)
and i'm pretty sure they wouldn't let him mosey to the showers alone if he was hurt.
   115. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:07 AM (#2178239)
Yeah, I don't think Pedro's hurt. Just a little frustration.
   116. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:08 AM (#2178240)
The Mets have got to lay off this kid's crap. He's among the league leaders in walks, but we're not letting him get behind.
   117. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:08 AM (#2178241)
I just hope he was upset and not hurt.
   118. not your average baseball fan Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:10 AM (#2178242)
yes clarence thomas--it's me the ruth ginssberg of BTF posters. We are probably the first mother-son posting team in BTF history.
   119. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:10 AM (#2178243)
He's among the league leaders in walks, but we're not letting him get behind.

Seriously, we're taking some really bad at bats so far.
   120. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:10 AM (#2178244)
Oh, splendid effort by the bats.
   121. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:12 AM (#2178245)
ESPN with bonus coverage of Astros-Phillies.
   122. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:14 AM (#2178247)
blast!
   123. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:15 AM (#2178248)
Well, it looks like the Marlins are unphased by the devastation of the last two games. Up 6-1 against Atlanta.

Of course, I suppose the key is how that game finishes.
   124. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:16 AM (#2178249)
Nice swing Freddy.
   125. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:19 AM (#2178250)
Oops. Burrell with the slam off Clemens.
   126. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:19 AM (#2178252)
Nice swing Freddy.
I'd not make fun of the NL batting leader when our own lofty, fancy, offense can't muster more than single against a mediocre lefty.

The Met killer kills the Astros and our chances of clinching. Great ####### night. Outstanding.
   127. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:20 AM (#2178253)
I'd not make fun of the NL batting leader when our own lofty, fancy, offense can't muster more than single against a mediocre lefty.

Emad, weren't you saying similar things about the futility of our offense midway through the second game against the Marlins?

How did that one work out?
   128. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:20 AM (#2178254)
Pat Burrell is really hilarious. He does everything possible to #### the Mets. It's uncanny.
   129. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:22 AM (#2178255)
Emad, weren't you saying similar things about the futility of our offense midway through the second game against the Marlins?

How did that one work out?


Seems to me like he's doing a nice job with the reverse jinx.
   130. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:25 AM (#2178260)
As SNY keeps on reminding me, the Mets are 5-11 in the last sixteen games against lefthanded starters.
   131. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:26 AM (#2178261)
Well, that's a great play from Wilson. Dammit.
   132. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:27 AM (#2178262)
How did that one work out?
It helps to have a dreadful bullpen to pick on... if Olsen and Johnson stay in the game, in all likelyhood, we get swept.
   133. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:30 AM (#2178264)
Nice AB here by Milledge. As Art Howe would say, he's battling!
   134. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:31 AM (#2178266)
Seems to me like he's doing a nice job with the reverse jinx.
Pretty clever, you are.
   135. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:31 AM (#2178267)
That was a fantastic plate appearance from Milledge.
   136. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:31 AM (#2178268)
There have been a bunch of HBPs this game.
   137. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:33 AM (#2178270)
lets go mets!
   138. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:33 AM (#2178271)
Alrighty! Reyes! Now we're cooking!
   139. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:33 AM (#2178272)
Reyes! There's one.
   140. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:34 AM (#2178273)
JOSE, JOSE JOSE JOSE, JOOOOSEEEE, JOOOOSEEEE
   141. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:34 AM (#2178274)
Reyes with the two-out RBI!!!! Terrible 0-2 pitch; Jose takes advantage.
   142. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:34 AM (#2178277)
Reyes just got lucky there. I imagine we'll resume our 'not hitting' shortly.
   143. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:36 AM (#2178282)
NOW, Emad IS using the reverse jinx . . . .
   144. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:37 AM (#2178285)
There goes Lo Duca.
   145. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:38 AM (#2178286)
I don't blame LoDuca here. This strikezone is absolutely sucked tonight. The Mets have run into a string of bad umpires the last few days.
   146. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:38 AM (#2178287)
yeah, i can see why he'd argue that.
   147. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:38 AM (#2178288)
LoDuca has every right to be pissed. That pitch hasn't been called a strike all night long. That is really unacceptable umpiring, to call that pitch right there.
   148. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:38 AM (#2178289)
HAS absoluted sucked, like my command of the English language.
   149. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:40 AM (#2178291)
I quit at typing.
   150. Tike Redman's Shattered Dreams Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:41 AM (#2178293)
Honestly, as a Pirates fan I'm still completely on LoDuca's side here. That was an awful, awful call.
   151. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:41 AM (#2178294)
If Kellogg had been giving a wide zone all night, fine. But he hasn't. That is outrageous.
   152. not your average baseball fan Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:43 AM (#2178298)
How bad is it to be Xavier Nady this weekend?
   153. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:56 AM (#2178307)
David's doing WAY too much first-ball swinging tonight, against a pitcher with chronic control problems. Not a good approach.
   154. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:56 AM (#2178308)
Cotter reports no indication of injury from Pedro.
   155. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 12:57 AM (#2178309)
I remember when David Wright didn't ####### SUCK. He's really been pretty bad in the second half.
   156. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:01 AM (#2178311)
Of course, pretty bad is 385/468 as I just looked up. But that's enough for Yankees fans to hate on Arod, so why not Wright?
   157. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:02 AM (#2178313)
Of course, pretty bad is 385/468 as I just looked up. But that's enough for Yankees fans to hate on Arod, so why not Wright?

I am pretty sure Rodriguez was arrying an injury when he was scuffling. Wright is awesome, though. The best thing about the New York nationals.
   158. Old Matt Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:04 AM (#2178315)
Damn. Didn't get picked for the random NLDS ticket drawing.

Doesn't look like their night.
   159. Old Matt Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:07 AM (#2178316)
Shawn Green is really, really bad.
   160. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:07 AM (#2178318)
Oh, just shoot me, Shawn Green. Because you're killing me slowly.
   161. Old Matt Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:09 AM (#2178321)
I'm gonna take a shower, but stick around until the game is over before I go out.

Just in case.
   162. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:13 AM (#2178324)
Apparently, monkeys use text messengers. Tom Glavine? Most improved???
   163. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:14 AM (#2178328)
Ok, get this... this is so wrong it has to have been miscounted.

The poll I mentioned earlier? Glavine won OVERWHELMING with 72 percent, followed by Beltran with 23, Trachsel with 3 and Reyes with 2.

Yeah. It just has to be a mistake or our fellow Mets fans are completely insane.
   164. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:15 AM (#2178329)
Tom Glavine? Most improved???

Monkeys, or Mrs. Glavine.

Trying to get three innings out of Heath Bell? Why, with a bullpen full of September call-ups?
   165. Old Matt Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:15 AM (#2178332)
It was a mistake.
   166. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:16 AM (#2178334)
Ok, the poll WAS screwed up. Beltran had 72 and Glavine had 23. Still Reyes only had 2. Insane. How can anyone watch Reyes and think that he isn't massively better than last year?
   167. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:20 AM (#2178339)
Well, at least that stupid fan helped the Mets and was only eight years old.
   168. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:21 AM (#2178340)
More fan interference. He must have assumed since DiFelice hit it that it wasn't fair.
   169. Old Matt Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:21 AM (#2178341)
A Reyes triple!

Here they come...
   170. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:22 AM (#2178343)
Seventeen triples!!!!! That was ALMOST a ground-rule double.
   171. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:22 AM (#2178344)
Whooo! Reyes triple! Another fan tried to interfere!

I'm really thinking that people shouldn't be allowed to go to games anymore.
   172. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:22 AM (#2178345)
17 triples!
   173. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:23 AM (#2178347)
Hey, all of a sudden, this is a two-run game . . . .
   174. Old Matt Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:24 AM (#2178349)
4-3 Phils...Mets may clinch it tonight.
   175. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:30 AM (#2178354)
Pretty DP. Now we need a 3-spot and Wagner for the title. Sounds good to me.
   176. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:33 AM (#2178356)
That was Wright's worst at bat of the year.
   177. Old Matt Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:33 AM (#2178357)
Good, Floyd gets on so Green can hit into a DP.
   178. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:34 AM (#2178358)
Cliff! Tying run comes up.
   179. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:34 AM (#2178359)
If Green GIDP's here, my eyes will bleed.
   180. Old Matt Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:36 AM (#2178362)
Cut Green.
   181. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:36 AM (#2178363)
Green is terrible.
   182. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:36 AM (#2178364)
Oh god, Green. BLEH.

Come on, Stache!
   183. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:37 AM (#2178365)
I thought Mike Gonzalez was the Pirates closer. Or is he hurt? Needless to say, I am not up on the ins and outs of the Pirates.

And you guys are all anti-Semitic. Of course, it seems like mjor league pitchers have gotten a lot more anti-Semitic lately. You'd think a fellow named Salomon would have some compassion for Green, but apparently not.
   184. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:37 AM (#2178366)
####.
   185. Old Matt Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:37 AM (#2178367)
Dreadful call.

Oh well. Go Phillies.
   186. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:37 AM (#2178368)
This was not any fun, guys.
   187. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:38 AM (#2178369)
Oh well, we'll have to wait til tomorrow.
   188. Banta Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:39 AM (#2178370)
You'd think a fellow named Salomon would have some compassion for Green, but apparently not.

Beautiful.
   189. Hot Wheeling American Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:39 AM (#2178371)
I watched the game and I'm not sure how they managed to put up even three runs. Brutal night.
   190. Sam M. Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:40 AM (#2178372)
That's OK. It might take a game or two. The key tonight: Pedro got through, apparently OK with the leg. And he had solid stuff, if not great results. In the long run, that is MUCH more important than the outcome tonight.
   191. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:44 AM (#2178378)
I got tired of watching young lefties look like the 1971 version of Vida Blue against the Mets. Maholm looked more like a lighter 1971 version of Mickey Lolich.
   192. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:48 AM (#2178384)
In the long run, that is MUCH more important than the outcome tonight.
You left out the part about the Mets ineptitude against yet another lefty, Wright's continued inability to hit a ball over a fence, Pedro sobbing in the dugout and being denied the pleasure of clinching THE RIGHT WAY. I passed up on a blind date for this, what!?
   193. Spencer Benedict Posted: September 16, 2006 at 01:57 AM (#2178396)
I think Pedro will be addressing the media in a few minutes.
   194. Ignatius J. Reilly Posted: September 16, 2006 at 02:28 AM (#2178445)
Ok, the poll WAS screwed up. Beltran had 72 and Glavine had 23. Still Reyes only had 2. Insane. How can anyone watch Reyes and think that he isn't massively better than last year?


Well, Reyes was fast last year. And as we all know, speed is the only thing that matters for a leadoff man.
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