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   1. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:18 AM (#2056952)
Milledge is batting behind Endy still.

Go Willie!
   2. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:28 AM (#2056981)
El Duque's gotta show something tonight.
   3. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:33 AM (#2056996)
Ugh, EI has the D'Backs feed.
   4. Jack Sommers Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:36 AM (#2057007)
You guys promise to play nice tonight?
   5. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:38 AM (#2057014)
Ugh, EI has the D'Backs feed.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Anything but Thom and Grace.
   6. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:43 AM (#2057025)
You guys promise to play nice tonight?


WHOOOOO! LODUCA HIT!!!! TAKE THAT, SHOEWIZARD!!! YOU TAKE THAT AND YOU CHOKE ON IT, BIATCCCH

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAA BELTRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!
   7. Jack Sommers Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:43 AM (#2057027)
Even thought Reyes BA is low, you guys must be encouraged by the 22 walks. Thats not alot, but it's alot for him, and his BABIP is .264, so you gotta figure that number will go up and he will be hitting .280/.340 before too long.
   8. Rob Base Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:44 AM (#2057028)
LoDuca doesn't run badly for a catcher.
   9. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:44 AM (#2057029)
Alright Beltran!
   10. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:45 AM (#2057032)
beltran is worth every penny.
   11. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:45 AM (#2057033)
You're right, shoewizard, but I think Reyes got almost 80% of those walks in the first month of the season. He's reverted (a bit) to his hacktastic ways lately, but there still is SOME overall improvement.

Really, I'm not concerned about Reyes. I don't know HOW good he'll be, but I am convinced that he'll be a solid player.
   12. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:49 AM (#2057041)
Good enough, Delgado.
   13. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:49 AM (#2057044)
YAY RUNS!
   14. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:49 AM (#2057045)
Baby steps.
   15. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:50 AM (#2057047)
First inning runs are good.

Let's go David!
   16. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:53 AM (#2057057)
If there is a picture to accompany the definition for "hitter," it should be a headshot of David. He's a hitter.
   17. Chris Dial Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:53 AM (#2057059)
Nice pitch from Vargas.
   18. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:54 AM (#2057063)
Missed the top half of the first inning fun.

At least David battled.
   19. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:54 AM (#2057064)
Damn.
   20. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:56 AM (#2057068)
At least David battled.[/]

Art Howe would be proud.
   21. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:57 AM (#2057069)
Great...eight lefties against El Duque? He's giving up at least seven runs tonight.

Mark Grace is probably legally insane.
   22. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:58 AM (#2057073)
Crap I screwed up



Fixed?
   23. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:58 AM (#2057074)
Damnit AJM!
   24. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 01:58 AM (#2057075)
Nice job AJM.

Braves losing 4-2 now.
   25. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:00 AM (#2057078)
El Duque!
   26. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:00 AM (#2057079)
That was a great inning from El Duque.
   27. Chris Dial Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:00 AM (#2057080)
Just a great inning from El Duque!
   28. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:00 AM (#2057081)
Good work El Duque!

You too AJM.
   29. Jack Sommers Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:00 AM (#2057082)
Crap.....El Duque being a big game pitcher and all...if there really is such a thing, he must personally view this as a big game and a chance to say FU to Melvin and the Josh Byrnes.
He's gonna smoke us tonight, isn't he?
   30. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:01 AM (#2057085)
You lose, Dial! Coke me up!
   31. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:03 AM (#2057091)
Grace just called Valentin a "brain-dead hooker."
   32. Eric in Madison Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:04 AM (#2057094)
How can anyone take listening to Mark Grace?
   33. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:04 AM (#2057097)
Ender's Game needs to move below Milledge.
   34. Rob Base Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:05 AM (#2057099)
Lastings can play.
   35. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:05 AM (#2057100)
Milledge is fast.
   36. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:05 AM (#2057101)
Lastings!
   37. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:06 AM (#2057104)
I love Lastings Milledge already. He's going to be a star.
   38. Jack Sommers Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:07 AM (#2057107)
Shinjo's No. 1 Fan (Matt) Posted: June 08, 2006 at 10:03 PM (#2057091)
Grace just called Valentin a "brain-dead hooker."
Eric in Madison Posted: June 08, 2006 at 10:04 PM (#2057094)
How can anyone take listening to Mark Grace?


It was actually pretty funny if you were listening to it.

Grace knows his stuff when it comes to hitting. Actually, he knows his stuff period. If you really listen to him. But I can see how the shuckster routine wears thin on alot of people.
   39. Chris Dial Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:09 AM (#2057111)
Banta,
I concur. Nearly identical commentary. the Coke is in the mail.
   40. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:10 AM (#2057116)
Hah. Reitsma came into the game in the sixth and gave up two more. 6-2 Stros.
   41. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:11 AM (#2057124)
On SNY, Howie was going on about how Gonzalez hasn't had a homerun since April, and Darling told him that it would be his fault if he gave up the homer. Howie then says "Spoken like a superstitious pitcher" pauses, and then says "El Duque's pitching a perfect game." And as SOON as the sentence ends, Gonzo gets a hit. It was priceless. I laughed a lot.
   42. Jack Sommers Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:13 AM (#2057127)
But...but....Gonzo has 20 doubles.
   43. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:14 AM (#2057130)
More good work. Low pitch count too.
   44. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:15 AM (#2057131)
the Coke is in the mail.


Sweet! I've never won anything before!

I think I'm gonna hold my breath until it arrives. It helps build the anticipation. And my thirst!
   45. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:17 AM (#2057136)
Jose!
   46. Chris Dial Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:18 AM (#2057138)
Nice hitting from Reyes. I wish he'd keeping swinging like that - level and hitting the ball where it is pitched.
   47. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:18 AM (#2057139)
PAUL LODUCA PRODUCTIVE OUTNESS!!!
   48. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:18 AM (#2057140)
Lo Duca productive out.
   49. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:19 AM (#2057145)
Good God that was crushed.
   50. Chris Dial Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:19 AM (#2057146)
Bam!
   51. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:19 AM (#2057148)
CARLOS BELTRAN GOES BOOM!
   52. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:19 AM (#2057149)
Wow, that was destroyed.
   53. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:19 AM (#2057150)
Beltran is awesome!!!
   54. Rob Base Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:20 AM (#2057152)
I like this Beltran better than last year's Beltran. I think that other guy was Rigo Beltran. This regular one has some insanely quick hands.
   55. Rob Base Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:21 AM (#2057157)
I think the shift is really killing Delgado. He needs to go the other way a few times and make some teams pay.
   56. Chris Dial Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:22 AM (#2057159)
Beltran's improvement alone is going to be worth 30-40 runs. Then there's Delgado over last year's 1Bs. And DWright developing.

I'm pretty sure we rock.
   57. Rob Base Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:22 AM (#2057160)
David Wright seriously gets a hit every time he's up.
   58. Шĥy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:23 AM (#2057162)
Swinging 3-0 with the bases empty has to be a very stupid move...especially if the player is slumping.
   59. Rob Base Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:24 AM (#2057168)
these 2 guys are such idiots
   60. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:26 AM (#2057172)
It's still early to guess how Wright's season will end up, but is anyone surprised at HOW Wright is doing? That he's doing really well doesn't really surprise me, but the fact that he's doing it with a .330+ batting average instead of maybe more homeruns surprises me.

Not that the power isn't there and won't continue to develop as he gets older, it's more like he's added another dimension to his game that he didn't really have in the minors. He was always a good contact hitter, but now he's becoming a great one. Really, he's sort of like a young Piazza.
   61. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:27 AM (#2057174)
Stache!
   62. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:27 AM (#2057176)
I'm pretty sure we rock.

Well said Mr. Dial.

Ender with two men on.
   63. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:27 AM (#2057177)
Stache!
   64. Rob Base Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:27 AM (#2057178)
Really, he's sort of like a young Piazza.

that's Sam's take as well.
   65. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:28 AM (#2057179)
Valentin is so much better than Matsui, it's ridiculous.
   66. Jack Sommers Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:28 AM (#2057180)
A week ago, you could count on this D back team to come back and make this a game. Not now.

This team is in a death spiral, and the Grimsley thing is the perfect excuse. Of course 90% of it is just regression, as expected. It took a week longer than expected. But this is no big surprise.

I am conflicted. On one hand, I would love to have a "bonus" season where the team wins a somewhat flukey division title using mostly one year place holders, with Drew and Young and Quentin ready to come up next year.

But the very possibility of such a division title invites disaster.......i.e. try to trade Quentin and Montero for Willis or something like that.

So if they do end up tanking for a while, I'll take a glass half full approach, and hope that means that Drew and Young and Quentin get 1/2 or a 1/3 of a season in the majors this year as preperation for NEXT year.
   67. Chris Dial Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:28 AM (#2057181)
I think the shift is really killing Delgado. He needs to go the other way a few times and make some teams pay.

This is true.

I checked into this for Bonds by going through every one of his BIP/outs to short right field. Mind you, not GBs to second, but where the BIP was a GO to right field - there were 8 of them.

That's going to raise Bonds' BA (etc) significantly. The shift on Bonds is more exaggerated than everyone else. The 2B plays much deeper than on Delgado, but the ob stands. These guys have got to start pushing one down the line.
   68. Jack Sommers Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:29 AM (#2057187)
How long before Randolph moves Milledge out of the 8 hole.

God...just how stupid do you have to be to be a major league manager?
   69. Rob Base Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:30 AM (#2057188)

This is true.


*blush*
   70. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:30 AM (#2057189)
Endy really is magical.
   71. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:30 AM (#2057190)
It's Ender's Game!
   72. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:31 AM (#2057191)
Endy!
   73. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:31 AM (#2057192)
ENDY!
   74. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:31 AM (#2057194)
Endy!
   75. Rob Base Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:32 AM (#2057195)
Really, he's sort of like a young Piazza.

Also sort of a right-handed Mattingly. We should really start teasing yankee fans with that. Start calling him "Davey Baseball" or something.
   76. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:32 AM (#2057196)
Since when did putting on a Mets uniform entail good luck?
   77. Chris Dial Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:33 AM (#2057198)
Swinging 3-0 with the bases empty has to be a very stupid move...especially if the player is slumping

No - swinging 3-0 is good when you are slumping. You are VERY likely to get a grooved pitch, and hitting hte ball hard a few times can help you get your groove back. Swinging 3-0 is really only advisable when you are going really bad or really good.
   78. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:34 AM (#2057200)
Also sort of a right-handed Mattingly. We should really start teasing yankee fans with that. Start calling him "Davey Baseball" or something.


This is one of the best ideas I've ever heard. It fills the nickname void that we have AND pisses off Yankees fans.

Of course, they'll just say something like "THERE YOU GO, TYPICAL METS FANS, MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE YANKEES THAN THEIR OWN TEAM, I EAT #### FOR BREAKFAST, BLAH BLAH BLAH."
   79. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:35 AM (#2057201)
I guarantee the Mets win this by less than three runs.

Milledge rocks.
   80. Шĥy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:36 AM (#2057202)
No - swinging 3-0 is good when you are slumping. You are VERY likely to get a grooved pitch, and hitting hte ball hard a few times can help you get your groove back. Swinging 3-0 is really only advisable when you are going really bad or really good.

It can't be good with the bases empty though since a walk is equal to a single. I also don't understand why you would want the hitter swinging if he is slumping. I think you overestimate the pitcher changing due to the hitter's slump.
   81. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:36 AM (#2057203)
A circus catch.
   82. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:36 AM (#2057204)
Vargas is real slow.
   83. Chris Dial Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:37 AM (#2057205)
God...just how stupid do you have to be to be a major league manager?

Well, leaving a rookie in a basically pressureless lineup spot is a good thing until he gets his legs. Okay, he's hit well, but put him higher in the lineup and he starts pressing.

Managing newcomers is touchy - you keep them out of critical roles until you are sure they have their head on straight.

It's only been a week for goodness sake.
   84. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:39 AM (#2057207)
Ooh. So close to the DP.
   85. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:41 AM (#2057208)
Solid work from Duque so far. 35 pitches too.
   86. Sam M. Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:43 AM (#2057210)
Hey, guys. Back from vacation. Nice to find a 5-0 lead!
   87. Chris Dial Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:43 AM (#2057211)
It can't be good with the bases empty though since a walk is equal to a single. I also don't understand why you would want the hitter swinging if he is slumping. I think you overestimate the pitcher changing due to the hitter's slump.

Well, he isn't swinging at "whatever pitch rolls up there". He's swinging at a grooved pitch - I'm certain it is a good idea.

HR hitters usually rake on 3-0.
   88. David W Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:43 AM (#2057212)
Pelfry tonight: 7 IP/2 hits/1 walk/7 K's/0 runs.

His AAA ERA is down to 2.83.
   89. David W Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:44 AM (#2057213)
I mean his AA ERA, of course.
   90. Chris Dial Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:44 AM (#2057214)
Back from vacation

Miami?
   91. Sam M. Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:45 AM (#2057215)
It's only been a week for goodness sake.

And such a quiet week. The kid's made almost no impact. Like a diver make a perfect entry: no splash. ;-)
   92. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:46 AM (#2057216)
Every opponent's broadcast will now show the Milledge high-fives and criticize him.
   93. Sam M. Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:48 AM (#2057220)
Miami?

Nope. Three days in Seattle (two Mariners' games) and three in San Francisco (two Giants' games, including Bonds' 716th).
   94. CrosbyBird Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:50 AM (#2057224)
How was the crowd for 716? I actually managed to avoid a single clip of it... bar prep does strange things to a man.
   95. CrosbyBird Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:51 AM (#2057226)
seeing a single clip

Too quick on the trigger.
   96. Banta Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:52 AM (#2057227)
Against his former team and a place where he struggled, El Duque is throwing his best game. It makes no sense which is why it makes so much sense.
   97. Old Matt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:52 AM (#2057228)
Delgado!
   98. David W Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:52 AM (#2057229)
Other minor league news: Fernando Martinez was back in the lineup at Hagerstown this evening.
   99. Joshemy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:52 AM (#2057230)
44 pitches through 4.
   100. Sam M. Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:54 AM (#2057232)
How was the crowd for 716?

About 35,000, IIRC. And the Giants' fans are absolutely maniacally devoted to Bonds. I hadn't realized the intensity of it until I saw a game at AT&T. When he's announced before the game, when he steps out on deck, when he comes to bat -- it's huge. It's like every chance they get, the fans there are trying to make up for the anti-Bonds sentiment everywhere else. It's pretty amazing to experience in person. When he hit # 716, the place was in a frenzy, and the only thing I can really compare it to is a post-season dramatic win.
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