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   1. Michael Brady Posted: June 14, 2006 at 07:39 PM (#2063771)
I'm feeling a big Phillies win tonight. Not sure why.
   2. Michael Brady Posted: June 14, 2006 at 08:05 PM (#2063825)
Actually, on second thought, here's why:

They're on the precipice of falling out of it, meaning they'll come up with a nice little hot streak, maybe win 5 of the next 7.

Then, once they have our attention again we can expect to be steamrolled by the class of the AL East.

This rollercoaster shall continue, as it always does, until September.
   3. Free Rob Base Posted: June 14, 2006 at 08:28 PM (#2063836)
This is a real big game for the Phils, considering their ace is going. They almost have to win this one to at least keep the Mets in shouting distance.
   4. Sam M. Posted: June 14, 2006 at 08:30 PM (#2063838)
I'm feeling a big Phillies win tonight. Not sure why.

I'll tell you why.

El. Duque.

Well, at least that's why I'm feeling a bit Phillies' win tonight.
   5. Banta Posted: June 14, 2006 at 08:52 PM (#2063854)
Yeah, I'm a big concerned about El Duque tonight, the way the ball was flying out of the stadium last night. Frankly, the Mets winning this game will be a small miracle.
   6. Banta Posted: June 14, 2006 at 08:54 PM (#2063857)
I meant to say that that I'm "a bit" concerned, but apparently my subconscious is even more scared of El Duque tonight than I was aware of.
   7. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: June 14, 2006 at 09:02 PM (#2063861)
Here it is, our chance for a win!

I continue to be astonished by how much complaining Mets fans are doing. El Duque's last start was a 3-hit complete-game shutout. Oh no!

I don't see any way the Phillies can catch the Mets without a season-ending injury to Glavine or Pedro. The wild-card race looks like it could be won by a .550 team again, though.
   8. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: June 14, 2006 at 09:06 PM (#2063864)
Here's something to watch: PHI top pitching prospect (not counting Hamels) Scott Mathieson is starting for the Phillies against the Drays on Saturday.

We won't need the 5th starter again until July 2, by which time Lieber might be back, so I think Mathieson will only be up for a couple days.
   9. Free Rob Base Posted: June 14, 2006 at 09:10 PM (#2063873)
Crispix -- why do you think the Phils' year is next year? I just don't see next year's Phils team being much better (if at all) from this one unless alot of very young pitchers come through. Isn't that unlikely? The offense should be worse next year.
   10. Sam M. Posted: June 14, 2006 at 09:24 PM (#2063886)
I continue to be astonished by how much complaining Mets fans are doing. El Duque's last start was a 3-hit complete-game shutout. Oh no!

First of all, it wasn't a shutout. He gave up a run in the 9th, and if that isn't cause for complaint, I don't know what is. ;-)

Second, he was pitching that night against a Diamondbacks' team in a deep, impenetrable hitting slump from which they still haven't emerged. I think that effort -- nice and welcome as it was -- gives us little indication of what may happen tonight. The Phillies' defensive and pitching woes last night aside, they did some mashing. I don't expect them to stop that tonight against El Duque.

That's not complaining; that's being realistic. It's just NOT a good pitching match-up, regardless of El Duque's last outing.
   11. Шĥy Posted: June 14, 2006 at 09:31 PM (#2063898)
Is the Mets current lineup the best defense in baseball? Every player is above average at his position except Wright, Lo Duca, and maybe Delgado and none of those are very bad defensively.
   12. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: June 14, 2006 at 10:01 PM (#2063925)
Is the Mets current lineup the best defense in baseball?
It's outfield has to be... even with Beltran playing deep, the Mets have three legitimate center fielders. In fact, it could be argued their best CF isn't even playing CF!
   13. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: June 14, 2006 at 10:33 PM (#2063952)
In fact, it could be argued their best CF isn't even playing CF!

And they had an even better CF but traded him for Nady!

Crispix -- why do you think the Phils' year is next year? I just don't see next year's Phils team being much better (if at all) from this one unless alot of very young pitchers come through. Isn't that unlikely? The offense should be worse next year.

Partially because last year would have been the Phils' year if Thome had hit a little better than .207/.360/.352 (seriously...it's hard to believe, and it was less than a year ago), and this year seems to have been set up as a transitional year, particularly for the rotation, what with Padilla being given away for nothing.

I can't EXPECT the Phils' year to be next year, because it depends on the development of pitching prospects, but I can hope for it.

I don't know why the offense would be worse next year...nobody is really overperforming their historical levels except the two young stars, who don't really have historical levels (Utley, Howard).
   14. Benji Posted: June 14, 2006 at 10:36 PM (#2063956)
I only worry now when Traschel pitches.
   15. CrosbyBird Posted: June 14, 2006 at 10:55 PM (#2063973)
And they had an even better CF but traded him for Nady!

Talk about cutting bait at the right time, even if I think Cameron could have fetched more.

Cameron 2006: .257/.337/.377
   16. Free Rob Base Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:06 PM (#2063981)
I don't know why the offense would be worse next year.

Because other than Howard and Utley the lineup seems oldish and unlikely to improve, and the two young guys can't really get much better. Also -- seems like one of these days the Phils are going to trade Abreu for some magic beans. I could be wrong. I had just noticed your optimism over next year's team and was wondering where it was coming from.
   17. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:06 PM (#2063983)
And they had an even better CF but traded him for Nady!
I get it! You're a Bunuelian parody of a disgruntled Phillies fan.
   18. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:12 PM (#2063994)
So they appeal LoDuca's rounding first - Cohen and Darling are sniggering.

Hernandez says "Hey, guys, it was close."

Then he adds - "I was watching. I don't know why I was but I was".

Keith, you were watching because when you were the first baseman, you always watched the runner round first to make sure he touched so you could appeal. It's your reflex.
   19. Sam M. Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:12 PM (#2063996)
Fearsome.
   20. Banta Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:13 PM (#2063997)
Awesome. Seventh straight game with a run in the first. That's amazing.
   21. Banta Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:14 PM (#2064000)
And WRIGHT! This team is so great right now!
   22. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:14 PM (#2064001)
I continue to be astonished by how much complaining Mets fans are doing.

Because you have a silly view of how the world should work.

You seem to be of the opinion that if your team is kicking the the division, you aren't allowed to say anything about a poorly performing pitcher. What a silly notion.
   23. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:14 PM (#2064002)
Delgado!

Wright!
   24. Sam M. Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:14 PM (#2064003)
David Wright. Guy's just OK, if you believe some of those in that Santana thread. Sigh.
   25. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:14 PM (#2064004)
It is becoming quite clear that the Mets are never going to lose again.
   26. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:16 PM (#2064007)
Santana thread?
   27. Sam M. Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:16 PM (#2064008)
You seem to be of the opinion that if your team is kicking the the division, you aren't allowed to say anything about a poorly performing pitcher. What a silly notion.

There are manners, Chris. I propose we use code. Like, you know, "I would prefer that Mr. Glavine pitch a touch better, all things considered, though he is a fine chap and a gentleman of distinction!"
   28. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:16 PM (#2064009)
Well, Pedroia is a much better prospect...
   29. Sam M. Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:18 PM (#2064012)
Santana thread?

The one that started out with Rosenthal's column, "Beane could get asking price for Zito." It moved over into a debate about whether you should trade Wright for Johan Santana.
   30. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:20 PM (#2064014)
How many of you saw teh pregame interview with Wags about last night?

He said he was worn out from sitting on the bench between innings, when it was noticed he was clearly gassed iat the end of the game.

He was asked about how great Wright's DP was - he said "I guess we're even now"
   31. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:21 PM (#2064018)
The one that started out with Rosenthal's column, "Beane could get asking price for Zito." It moved over into a debate about whether you should trade Wright for Johan Santana.

Oh, I haven't been in that thread today. The answer obviously is no.
   32. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:22 PM (#2064019)
I would LOVE to see El Duque become a Contreras.
   33. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:23 PM (#2064021)
Abreu is laughing about that eephus job.
   34. Banta Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:23 PM (#2064022)
El Duque is one sneaky bastard.
   35. Sam M. Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:23 PM (#2064023)
OK, that that a hysterical pitch.
   36. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:23 PM (#2064024)
Nice sloooow curve.
   37. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:24 PM (#2064026)
That last pitch to Abreu was NASTY.

Wouldn't you want El Duque to be the anti-Contreras, meaning that he had to come back to New York to pitch well?
   38. Sam M. Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:30 PM (#2064041)
Dear El Duque,

Please don't hurt yourself clogging the bases ahead of Mr. Reyes.

Your pal,

Sam
   39. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:32 PM (#2064047)
this team likes scoring early runs.
   40. Sam M. Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:34 PM (#2064052)
Forget how well the Mets are playing. If the Phillies don't tighten up their defense, they can't win a damned thing. Bell . . . ugh.
   41. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:34 PM (#2064053)
I thought Bell was a good defender?
   42. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:34 PM (#2064054)
Who else yells at the TV as the ball gets to Bell "Boot it!"?
   43. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:34 PM (#2064055)
David Bell is betting money on the Mets.
   44. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:35 PM (#2064057)
Darling just called Myers a hothead.
   45. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:36 PM (#2064060)
Myers is pissed. Maybe he shouldn't have allowed a two out hit to El Duque.
   46. Free Rob Base Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:36 PM (#2064062)
It all starts with two out and pitcher up.
   47. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:37 PM (#2064064)
Myers is prety pissed, but he was mad after that really wide slider to LoDuca.
   48. Sam M. Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:40 PM (#2064065)
Reyes HAS to try to steal home against the shift when Delgado is up. I just want to be watching when he tries it. Good lord, he can get a 30 foot lead!
   49. Banta Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:48 PM (#2064074)
Damn the Phillies suck.
   50. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:48 PM (#2064076)
Nice baserunning Howard!
   51. Sam M. Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:48 PM (#2064078)
Ryan Howard may be one heck of a fearsome power hitter, but does he do anything else well on a baseball field??? Blech.
   52. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:51 PM (#2064083)
Boo
   53. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:51 PM (#2064084)
D-Wright!!!!
   54. Banta Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:51 PM (#2064086)
Yeah, David Wright is nothing special at all.
   55. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:52 PM (#2064087)
Yah
   56. Free Rob Base Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:52 PM (#2064088)
That Wright kid is pretty good.
   57. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:53 PM (#2064091)
I like when I totally fall for a player, and that player just continues to surprise me. Pleasantly.
   58. Banta Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:54 PM (#2064093)
What the HELL has happened? The Mets can't be stopped! (except for rain, probably)
   59. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:54 PM (#2064095)
This is pretty fun to watch.
   60. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:55 PM (#2064096)
That catch by Beltran was definitely a case where his playing deep helped the Mets. And it looks like Howard has money on the Mets as well.
   61. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:55 PM (#2064097)
This team rocks!
   62. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:55 PM (#2064098)
Back to #1 post. Uh, I don't think so.
   63. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:55 PM (#2064099)
that milledge kid is pretty sweet too.
   64. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:56 PM (#2064101)
Abreu!
   65. Banta Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:57 PM (#2064102)
Alright, so the entire Phillies team has their money on the Mets.
   66. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:57 PM (#2064103)
Reyes triple!
   67. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:57 PM (#2064104)
Cue Harris complaining about Abreu going back to the wall and not making a catch...
   68. Rodder Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:57 PM (#2064105)
Potential Phillies All-Stars

Utley
Howard
Gordon
Abreu
<strike>Myers</strike>
   69. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: June 14, 2006 at 11:58 PM (#2064110)
so, '06 better than '86?
   70. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:00 AM (#2064113)
If Ozzie Guillen were the Phillie manager, there definitely would be some expletives in the post game interview. The Phillies are playing very stupid baseball.
   71. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:01 AM (#2064116)
It's a shame Larry Bowa isn't managing the Phillies for this series.
   72. Шĥy Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:02 AM (#2064121)
Aaron Rowand for MVP and pope b~tches
   73. Sam M. Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:03 AM (#2064124)
I've been composing a most testy post in that Santana thread. Yet another dissing of Wright to respond to. Just as he was hitting the home run, in fact. Heh, heh.
   74. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:05 AM (#2064131)
The Mets are playing so well, even WHY is optimistic.
   75. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:07 AM (#2064135)
Stupid Rollins.
   76. Banta Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:09 AM (#2064140)
Alright, El Duque, come on. We need to work faster here. NO MORE HITS.
   77. Chris Dial Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:09 AM (#2064143)
Besides, what do Mets fans have to complain about?
   78. Sam M. Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:10 AM (#2064145)
Reyes has now tied Steve Henderson for 4th on the Mets all-time triples list (31). Next up: Cleon Jones (33).
   79. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:11 AM (#2064147)
i wouldn't trade wright for santana.
   80. Dr. Vaux Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:11 AM (#2064149)
Even if Wright and Santana were both guaranteed future HOFers, I'd trade Wright for Santana. An HOF pitcher is just a harder commodity to come by than an HOF position player, even a third baseman. But the Twins would never, ever do it; that's one of the few ways in which unenlightened baseball thinking is right.

But of course, in real life, it's defensible not to make the trade, since Santana, being a pitcher, could turn into total #### at any time.
   81. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:12 AM (#2064153)
Uh oh, rain. Hurry up!
   82. Chris Dial Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:12 AM (#2064155)
You guys noticed that the Phillies have their monumentally stupid "3 straight LHBs" lineup tonight - right?
   83. Bob Koo Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:12 AM (#2064156)
Geez, Lo Duca, a good throw would've gotten him.
   84. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:14 AM (#2064159)
Lo Duca is stinky.
   85. Sam M. Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:17 AM (#2064169)
Beltran is looking so damned comfortable. Amazing how much different he looks (a) healthy and (b) relaxed.
   86. Banta Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:20 AM (#2064175)
See, even that DP by Wright is clutch. Helps the game get official before the rain comes!
   87. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:24 AM (#2064189)
Pelfrey is pitching tonight. Through 4, he's allowed 1 run on 5 hits. He's struck out 6, walked 2, and hit a batter.
   88. Banta Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:26 AM (#2064190)
Ah damn it, anybody know what the forecast is looking like?
   89. AJMcCringleberry Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:26 AM (#2064191)
####### rain. Is it supposed to last long?
   90. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:27 AM (#2064194)
The Phillies announcers said that they didn't think that this would be the end of the night.
   91. Dr. Vaux Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:30 AM (#2064200)
Of couse it won't. This is one of those games where the team that's trailing gets new life after a two-hour rain delay, comes from behind to win, and rides the momentum to an overhaulilng of the division leader within a month.

[poof]
   92. Banta Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:33 AM (#2064205)
Vaux, I'm beginning to think that we're gonna have to kill you. Nothing personal!
   93. Banta Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:42 AM (#2064216)
Looks like this game will resume eventually. Apparently, the major rain is gonna stay south of Philly. Game will probably be back on in an hour, but I'm just speculating.
   94. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:43 AM (#2064219)
Of couse it won't. This is one of those games where the team that's trailing gets new life after a two-hour rain delay, comes from behind to win, and costs the other team its postseason chances.
http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail.php?gameno=7054
Awww... i'm sorry I brought it up.
   95. Chris Dial Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:44 AM (#2064224)
####### rain. Is it supposed to last long?

Well, it's Alberto remnants that came through here this morning and dropped 6 inches of rain and knocked out power at my office/lab.

So this could be it - but the Canes are winning! Wooo!
   96. Joshemy Posted: June 15, 2006 at 12:50 AM (#2064239)
Just got home. So, we are pretty good, huh?

I also felt a handle change was in order.
   97. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: June 15, 2006 at 01:00 AM (#2064256)
if the game doesn't get finished, i'm killing an ump.
   98. Raskolnikov Posted: June 15, 2006 at 01:11 AM (#2064272)
Any update from anyone?
   99. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: June 15, 2006 at 01:16 AM (#2064278)
About 10 minutes, folks.
   100. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: June 15, 2006 at 01:21 AM (#2064289)
YAY!
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