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1. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: May 21, 2006 at 03:11 PM (#2030336)

I'd like to point out this gem from Saturday's Newsday, speaking of Posada's exit early in the Friday night game:

Had Johnson dismissed Posada for the evening, deciding that the cause of his problems on the mound was actually located 60 feet, six inches in front of him?

(The fact that we're even asking this question, of course, is all the proof you need that as a Yankee, Johnson has gone from major domo to prima donna).

You see that? The author beautifully made RJ look like the worst human imaginable, then managed to blame the fact that he felt the need to baselessly speculate on Johnson himself.

My snark from this morning, in that thread:

I have to point out that accoring to this lunkhead, Johnson forced Posada out of the lineup Friday because he's a prima donna and then in order to protect his image, Joe Torre conspired to keep Jorge out of at least two potential game-winning pinch-hitting opportunities on Saturday.

Normally, I wouldn't cross-post like this, but I know a decent number of people who only frequent Lounges and Chatters anymore.

2. Cowboy Popup Posted: May 21, 2006 at 04:15 PM (#2030365)

So I'm guessing Wagner gets the night off.

3. Randomly Fluctuating Defensive Metric Posted: May 21, 2006 at 04:53 PM (#2030384)

Small was over-throwing coming out of the bullpen and is much better suited to starting. I wouldn't be suprised at all to see him pitch a good game tonight.

4. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: May 21, 2006 at 04:54 PM (#2030386)

As someone said on RLYW, Proctor, Rivera, and maybe Farnsworth will likely have the night off.

I hope Small is either horrible or brilliant tonight - the good part of the Yankee bullpen is either unavailable or wheezing.

5. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 05:57 PM (#2030444)

Erik, that was the theory immediately after Posada left Friday night. Howie Rose, a Mets radio broadcaster, suggested it, saying there was some sort of dispute in the Yankees dugout before the inning started.

Obviously, the idea was proven false yesterday when Posada did not pinch hit.

6. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 06:02 PM (#2030449)

Kazmir through three: 2 hits, 0 r, 1 bb, 6 k

Fortunato was released yesterday. Likely because he refused to have TJ as diagnosed by the Mets doctors.

7. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: May 21, 2006 at 06:03 PM (#2030451)

Then it's speculation upon speculation, Matt. I'm sure you're right about where it came from, but that doesn't make the "reporting" of it any more responsible.

I'm not trying to surpress freedom of the press or anything like that. But the "tossing crap against the wall to see what sticks" method of reporting (and in this case, blaming the speculation on Randy Johnson) is punishable by a complete lack of trust in the future.

Why should I believe anything that a Newsday columnist (and, by extension, a beat reporter; although I acknowledge the different standards) has to say anymore?

8. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 06:06 PM (#2030454)

Oh, I agree completely. That's horrible reporting. He has no sources to corroborate his speculation.

9. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 06:54 PM (#2030572)

Kazmir is a pleasure to watch. 6 ip, 4 h, 0 r, 1 bb, 9 k. 92 pitiches, 57 strikes.

10. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:01 PM (#2030588)

Binghamton Press and Sun: B-Mets' pitcher Soler called up

Alay Soler is making the jump from Double-A to the major leagues.

Soler, a Cuban defector who has pitched three games for the Binghamton Mets this season, was promoted to New York following Saturday night's game at NYSEG Stadium. B-Mets manager Juan Samuel confirmed the move following the team's two victories over Altoona.

Soler went 1-0 with a 2.75 ERA and had 22 strikeouts and just three walks in 19 2/3 innings with the B-Mets. He will be going to New York today to join the big league club and is expected to pitch for the Mets sometime this week, possibly as early as Tuesday when the Mets begin a three-game series against the Phillies.

So I guess Tues-Wed-Thurs will be some permutation of Trachsel, Gonzalez and Soler.

11. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:07 PM (#2030601)

Kazmir is done for the day: 7 ip, 4 h, 0 r, 1 bb, 10 k. 104 pitiches, 66 strikes.

Easily one of the top-10 pitchers in the AL.

12. AJMcCringleberry Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:12 PM (#2030618)

Kazmir's back out for the 8th. And struck out the first batter.

13. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:12 PM (#2030622)

He actually just struck out Abercrombie in the 8th.

14. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:14 PM (#2030626)

Wow, pitch counts be damned. And he just hit Treanor.

15. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:18 PM (#2030636)

Unreal. He gets through the eighth with 119 pitches. Can't help but root for him.

16. 5.00, .280/.320/.400, 4th outfielder Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:18 PM (#2030637)

In my fantasy league I grabbed Kazmir and Webb.

17. AJMcCringleberry Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:19 PM (#2030639)

Through 8 with 119 pitches, hopefully he's done now.

18. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:27 PM (#2030658)

Tyler Walker, another drafted Met in for the save. Sigh.

19. Ska Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:35 PM (#2030691)

There should be some enterprising reporter out there who does some kind of follow up and looks at the Kazmir trade. That is, goes back and looks at those responsible. You see, the one striking thing about the trade to me was how NO ONE took credit for it right after it happened and everyone backed away from it. Who thought it was a good idea then?

s.

20. The Original SJ Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:36 PM (#2030693)

That is a lot of pitches.

21. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:39 PM (#2030711)

I agree Ska. I want answers to the questions that have been quickly abandoned. I figure it is just a matter of time before a NY writer takes it on.

22. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: May 21, 2006 at 07:41 PM (#2030724)

I think it would actually be more interesting to show how the Mets' fortunes really hinge on that trade. People lost jobs and were reassigned throughout the organization. Even if they lost a very good pitcher, was it overall a good day for the organization? I don't think we can really answer that question just yet.

23. The Original SJ Posted: May 21, 2006 at 08:08 PM (#2030796)

Has anyone had any experiences with a cruiseship wedding?

My sister is looking into it, it would be $350 for the cheapest rooms on the ship, inclusive (sans booze).

A 4 night cruise to the bahamas. It could be fun, or it could be a disaster.

24. tfbg9 Posted: May 21, 2006 at 08:41 PM (#2030881)

A disaster? Do you really wanna use that word?

25. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: May 21, 2006 at 08:41 PM (#2030884)

All I can think about that, SJ, is that some people are going to have a seriously hard time getting four consecutive days to spend out there.

26. The Original SJ Posted: May 21, 2006 at 08:51 PM (#2030908)

really, you think no one is going to have 2 days vacation.

27. Шĥy Posted: May 21, 2006 at 09:02 PM (#2030918)

You see, the one striking thing about the trade to me was how NO ONE took credit for it right after it happened and everyone backed away from it. Who thought it was a good idea then?

Duquette took credit for it the whole time.

28. The Original SJ Posted: May 21, 2006 at 09:09 PM (#2030921)

Peterson defended it too.

29. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 09:12 PM (#2030924)

You know, I really think the rotation will shake out this way:

Tues - Soler
Wed - Trachsel
Thurs - Gonzalez

Omar and Willie talked about splitting up the fourth and fifth starters so they are not pitching on back-to-back days. Tuesday, Soler would be pitching on five days rest, Trachsel and Gonzalez would both get extra days of rest.

30. Joshemy Posted: May 21, 2006 at 09:19 PM (#2030925)

Trachsel doesn't like extra rest, I thought? Though splitting up the 4 and 5 would be nice.

31. The Original SJ Posted: May 21, 2006 at 09:34 PM (#2030934)

Boston has already played 10 more games against the AL East than the Yankees?

That seems like a lot. When do we get to fatten up on the Orioles?

32. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: May 21, 2006 at 10:37 PM (#2030969)

Johnny Hot Tub (SJ!) Posted: May 21, 2006 at 04:51 PM (#2030908)
really, you think no one is going to have 2 days vacation.

Assuming that all of the invitees have the same two days off of work and no commitments on the weekends, then I guess so.

33. The Original SJ Posted: May 21, 2006 at 11:52 PM (#2031023)

Assuming that all of the invitees have the same two days off of work and no commitments on the weekends, then I guess so.

Well, she is a nurse, nurses have 4 days off a week.

I do not work a typical 9-5, but i still get my 2 days off. They people that do not work the typical 9-5, M-F, (such as me) have an advantage, they can work Sun-thur one week, and Tues- Sat the next week, and not use any vacation time.

34. Old Matt Posted: May 21, 2006 at 11:59 PM (#2031030)

Damn, no Miguel Cairo in LF.

Apparently Buster Olney has been clammoring on his blog for the Mets to acquire Dave "Not Spin" Williams, who was DFAed by the Reds the other day.

35. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:00 AM (#2031034)

Well, uh, she was cute.

36. Urban Faber Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:00 AM (#2031035)

Go New York!

37. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:01 AM (#2031036)

Nice opening. I liked it.

38. AJMcCringleberry Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:03 AM (#2031039)

Apparently Buster Olney has been clammoring on his blog for the Mets to acquire Dave "Not Spin" Williams, who was DFAed by the Reds the other day.

I saw that. Do we really need a lefty version of Jeremi Gonzalez?

39. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:03 AM (#2031040)

BLUE CAPS ON A NIGHT GAME!

First time in years?!?

40. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:05 AM (#2031043)

Blue caps and pinstripes... some needed good karma to start the night!

41. Banta Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:05 AM (#2031044)

Jesus, throwing in Wright with Mays, Mantle, etc... if that isn't a hex, I don't know what is.

42. The Original SJ Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:06 AM (#2031046)

Does 7 more intradivision games seem like a lot?

43. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:07 AM (#2031049)

Go New York!

Bob Murphy (approx. five years ago): "And they're ruling in favor of New York!'

44. The Original SJ Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:07 AM (#2031050)

Prediction

Mets 11, Yankees 2

45. Banta Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:08 AM (#2031051)

Alright, let's go Tommy!

46. Cutter Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:09 AM (#2031053)

Giambi's slump isn't likely to end tonight against a lefty. With Sheff and MAtsui out right now, he couldn't have picked a worse time to take a dive.

47. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:09 AM (#2031054)

Gammons, get off the field so we can freaking start.

48. Urban Faber Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:09 AM (#2031055)

Peter, hurry up and finish your report. Glavine's waiting for ya.

49. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:09 AM (#2031056)

Wow, they were about to throw the first pitch and Glavine had to step off so Gammo could do his report.

Wow.

50. Urban Faber Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:10 AM (#2031058)

It'd suck if he didn't get the 300 wins Gammons was talking about because of Gammons himself.

51. Cutter Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:10 AM (#2031059)

Say something mean about Damon, SJ.

52. Joshemy Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:11 AM (#2031060)

Stupid bloop.

53. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:11 AM (#2031061)

I caught that too Matt. Glavine glanced over at Gammons and didn;t look very happy.

54. The Original SJ Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:12 AM (#2031064)

Damon blows.

55. Urban Faber Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:12 AM (#2031065)

The Mets should always wear these unis at home.

56. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:12 AM (#2031066)

Glavine's gonna get squeezed tonight, just ####### great.

57. The Original SJ Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:13 AM (#2031068)

So Bean is in the pen? And Jones never got the callup at all, despite what Sportsline said?

58. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:13 AM (#2031070)

3...2...1...DOWN ON YOUR KNEES ESPN BROADCAST CREW!

59. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:13 AM (#2031071)

I prefer the non-pinstripe Mets unis with these caps.

60. AJMcCringleberry Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:13 AM (#2031073)

Lo Duca blows.

61. Banta Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:13 AM (#2031075)

Another sensational throw from LoDuca.

62. Joshemy Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:13 AM (#2031076)

LoDuca might just be worse than Piazza at throwing out runners.

63. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:13 AM (#2031077)

Jose!

64. Rob Base Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:14 AM (#2031078)

Reyes has a gun.

65. Urban Faber Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:14 AM (#2031079)

Was Jeter not hustling there? Or is he slow?

66. Joshemy Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:14 AM (#2031082)

Yay Reyes.

67. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:15 AM (#2031087)

So Bean is in the pen? And Jones never got the callup at all, despite what Sportsline said?

No, Jones was called up for Friday's game and then sent back down after the game Friday night for Bean.

68. Cutter Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:15 AM (#2031088)

That ball wasn't hit that deep. It didn't take a great throw to get Jeter there.

69. Paul S Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:15 AM (#2031092)

Notice how Reyes both A) got to the ball and b) didn't make a stupid jump throw. I'd totally note things like that if I were a broadcaster. Actually, I'd basically snark on guys I don't like.

70. AJMcCringleberry Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:16 AM (#2031095)

71. Joshemy Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:16 AM (#2031096)

Strikeout Tommy!

72. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:16 AM (#2031097)

I prefer the non-pinstripe Mets unis with these caps.

Okay fine, but let's do away with the black, please!

73. The Original SJ Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:16 AM (#2031098)

Giambi took an AB to a 3-2 pitch?

suprising

74. Cutter Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:16 AM (#2031099)

Thanks for one great month, Giambi. Do we need to threaten you with being sent down the minors again?

75. Rob Base Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:16 AM (#2031100)

That ball wasn't hit that deep. It didn't take a great throw to get Jeter there.

wrong

76. Flynn Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:17 AM (#2031102)

I like the pinstripes and the blue hats. It's classic Mets.

77. Zeba Zeba Eata Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:17 AM (#2031103)

Apparently the 1st inning is a very clutch time.

78. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:17 AM (#2031104)

Meaningless stat time in 3...2...1...

79. Banta Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:19 AM (#2031108)

I like the Mets black uniforms.

80. . . . . . . Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:19 AM (#2031109)

I like the pinstripes and the blue hats. It's classic Mets.

Why the Mets changed from this to the Dodger-style white & piping is beyond me. Actually, its not beyond me at all; Wilpon would tell the Mets to bugger children if he read that the Bums used to do that back in the day.

81. EB Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:19 AM (#2031110)

Notice how Reyes both A) got to the ball and b) didn't make a stupid jump throw. I'd totally note things like that if I were a broadcaster. Actually, I'd basically snark on guys I don't like.

You don't have to dislike Derek Jeter to snark on his fielding.

Yankees fans posting on game chatter, who generally do like Jeter, do it pretty much continuously.

82. Cutter Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:20 AM (#2031111)

Glavine has probably thrown 4-5 pitches in the strikezone. The others were all swining strikes at balls out of the zone.

83. Banta Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:20 AM (#2031113)

Actually, I don't dislike any uniforms. I simply don't care.

84. Flynn Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:20 AM (#2031114)

I like the black road hats with the blue bill. I do not like the all black hat, nor any of the black uniforms.

85. Joshemy Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:20 AM (#2031115)

I like the Mets black uniforms.

You, sir, are evil.

I like the white non-pinstripes better (like Bernal), but I have no problem with the pinstripes.

86. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:20 AM (#2031116)

I don't need Sam Ryan to tell me anything.

87. AJMcCringleberry Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:21 AM (#2031117)

I like the black road hats with the blue bill. I do not like the all black hat,

Same here.

88. Banta Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:21 AM (#2031118)

You, sir, are evil.

This is completely accurate.

89. Joshemy Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:21 AM (#2031119)

23 pitches for Glavine that inning.

90. PreservedFish Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:22 AM (#2031120)

I can never tell when Glavine is being wily, and when he's getting lucky. I guess it's mostly guile, he's been doing it for so long.

91. Banta Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:22 AM (#2031122)

Is it me or did Sam Ryan look more attractive than usual tonight?

92. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:23 AM (#2031123)

Small's pitch count may be limited? Aren't the Yankees without Proctor, Farnsworth and Rivera tonight?

93. Flynn Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:23 AM (#2031124)

Why the Mets changed from this to the Dodger-style white & piping is beyond me. Actually, its not beyond me at all; Wilpon would tell the Mets to bugger children if he read that the Bums used to do that back in the day.

Wilpon represents the very worst type of Brooklyn Dodger fanboy, the kind who would tell you Newk, Furillo and Hodges should be in the Hall, but I have to think it was just some stupid merchandising decision. They don't use the blue hats too often anymore and that's classic Dodgers.

It should be Met policy to wear the blue hats in at least 50% of Met games.

94. Banta Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:23 AM (#2031125)

JOSE, STOP BUNTING. YOU SUCK AT IT

95. Cutter Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:23 AM (#2031126)

Reyes doesn't need to bunt to get a hit off Small.

96. AJMcCringleberry Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:23 AM (#2031127)

Is it me or did Sam Ryan look more attractive than usual tonight?

I thought so too, I didn't even realize it was her.

97. PayRod Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:23 AM (#2031128)

If Chacon were a horse, would he be getting the Barbaro treatment?

98. Joshemy Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:23 AM (#2031129)

Random note: Tom Glavine's OBP is .588 so far this season.

99. Cutter Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:24 AM (#2031130)

Is it me or did Sam Ryan look more attractive than usual tonight?

I thought so too, I didn't even realize it was her.

Botox.

100. Old Matt Posted: May 22, 2006 at 12:25 AM (#2031131)

I actually ate at Lo Duca's restaurant in Sedona, AZ. I highly recommend it.

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