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Tuesday, April 10, 2012

RedSox (1-3) @ Blue Jays (2-2), Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 7:07pm

BOS:Daniel Bard (27, RHP, 0-0, undef)
TOR:Kyle Drabek (24, RHP, 0-0, undef)

The Primer Chimp Posted: April 10, 2012 at 06:26 PM | 204 comment(s)
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101. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:27 PM (#4103408)

Has Bard always gotten this many groundballs? With better luck and positioning, this could be an 0-0 game.

102. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:28 PM (#4103409)

It's cromulent. Don't see anything special about it.

It's composed almost entirely of baseball. That's pretty special these days.

103. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:28 PM (#4103410)

Seeing Freddy Garcia fall back to earth makes me happy.

104. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:29 PM (#4103412)

I like Sweeney's approach. Can someone teach him how to swing a bat?

105. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:29 PM (#4103414)

Bard was a flyball pitcher in his first season or two as a reliever, but last year he started throwing more two-seamers and getting a lot more ground balls.

106. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:30 PM (#4103415)

For some reason, I imagined Ryan Sweeney would be more...descript.

107. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:31 PM (#4103419)

It's composed almost entirely of baseball. That's pretty special these days.

I suppose, but while they aren't terrible homers, some of the stuff about how they'd prefer young pitchers every day and twice on Sunday has been a little much. I'll eat something unpleasant if Buck and whoever the other guy is haven't said many times in the past how much they value experienced on the mound, yadda yadda.

But, again, I don't think it's bad.

108. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:31 PM (#4103421)

Ugh.

109. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:31 PM (#4103422)

Three fastballs right down the middle = 1 too many

110. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:32 PM (#4103423)

That ball Salty hit was hit harder than anything Bard's given up all night.

111. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:33 PM (#4103425)

Bard was a flyball pitcher in his first season or two as a reliever, but last year he started throwing more two-seamers and getting a lot more ground balls.

I guess that's the Bard I remember. If he can keep up the groudballs and no walks, I like his chances.

112. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:37 PM (#4103430)

Was that an 0-0 change?

113. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:39 PM (#4103434)

And ironically the hardest hit ball of Bard is an out.

114. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:40 PM (#4103436)

Am I crazy or is Bard throwing some kind of curve? That "slider" to Johnson was only 78 mph.

115. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:41 PM (#4103437)

Wow. Whatever that pitch was, it was nasty.

116. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:41 PM (#4103438)

Nice to see him feature the slider on 3-2. This has been the first inning he looks like a starter rather than just a reliever going as long as he can.

117. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:43 PM (#4103440)

Bard's slider is sometimes almost like a curve. Even in relief sometimes he'd throw a bendy one at 80-82 MPH.

118. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:46 PM (#4103444)

Can we please score some ####### runs now?

119. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:48 PM (#4103447)

Nice AB by Ells there.

120. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:48 PM (#4103448)

Arite! Some runs now please. Thank you.

121. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4103452)

How, did Ellbury get a late start or something? Nice to see Pedroia busting out, though.

122. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4103453)

5 wild pitches for Freddy Garcia in 5 innings.

123. Gamingboy Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4103454)

Meanwhile, in Baltimore, Freddy Garcia is a madman who thinks the plate is everywhere but where it is.

124. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:51 PM (#4103455)

pEdEy!

125. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:51 PM (#4103456)

Looked like Ellsbury though that ball was catchable.

126. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:51 PM (#4103457)

It drives me crazy when Pedroia swings and misses at stuff around his head, but man, he can hit it.

127. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:52 PM (#4103461)

It drives me crazy when Pedroia swings and misses at stuff around his head, but man, he can hit it.

To be fair, that ball was belt high for any other player.

128. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:52 PM (#4103463)

Run!

And gutsy/crazy move by Pedroia getting to third.

129. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:53 PM (#4103465)

I'm glad we scored a run, but you'd think Gonzalez could hit the ball farther with a 2-0 count.

130. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:54 PM (#4103466)

If Bautista's throw is 2 inches to the left, he gets Pedroia for sure.

131. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:54 PM (#4103467)

Are they going to be showing these tweets all season? Ugh.

132. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:56 PM (#4103469)

MLBtv is weird...is it normal that when they throw to a team's sideline reporter you don't see or hear it?

133. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:56 PM (#4103470)

Are they going to be showing these tweets all season? Ugh.

NESN's broadcast's this season have been terrible in every way other than Jenny Dell.

134. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:57 PM (#4103471)

MLBtv is weird...is it normal that when they throw to a team's sideline reporter you don't see or hear it?

You normally see the sideline reporter, but not when they throw it to the studio desk, etc.

135. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:57 PM (#4103473)

I would be happy with a sac fly here. I suspect Youk will hit into a DP though.

136. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:58 PM (#4103475)

So the Blue Jays just lent Frasor to the White Sox for a few months, I guess?

137. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 10, 2012 at 08:58 PM (#4103476)

Are they going to be showing these tweets all season? Ugh.

On the NHL Playoff Preview show on the other national sports network in Canada, they have the entire lower chryon dedicated to stupid tweets about the playoffs. As long as you put #TSN in there, and don't swear, you'll see it go by.

"go sens u rock playoffs wooo #TSN"

I guess it guarantees SOME eyeballs ("Did my tweet show up?"), but it's just ####### annoying.

138. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4103477)

So the Blue Jays just lent Frasor to the White Sox for a few months, I guess?

He broke the Jays record for pitching appearances, and then got dealt a week later.
In the process, he passes the record back to Luis Leal for innings pitched by a Jays-only pitcher.

139. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4103479)

You normally see the sideline reporter, but not when they throw it to the studio desk, etc.

Good, I'll be able to see some Dell.

140. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4103480)

goddammit

141. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4103481)

MLBtv is weird...is it normal that when they throw to a team's sideline reporter you don't see or hear it?

Yep

Well done Youks - well done

142. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4103484)

That petered out nicely.

143. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4103485)

I would be happy with a sac fly here. I suspect Youk will hit into a DP though.

Sometimes it sucks to be right.

144. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:02 PM (#4103487)

The best Jason Frasor moment was from last year while sitting in the bullpen with Jon Rauch.

145. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:02 PM (#4103488)

You people who think Jenny Dell is more attractive than Heidi Watney could not be more wrong. It's as if you are saying 2+2=mayonnaise.

146. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:04 PM (#4103489)

Heidi Watney was more overrated than Derek Jeter's defense.

147. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:05 PM (#4103490)

Bard looks cooked at 90 pitches. Looks like he overexerted himself a wee bit with the early gas. Still a good outing, BABIP be damned.

148. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:05 PM (#4103491)

Alright, Dan and me are gonna step outside...only one of us is coming back.

149. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:05 PM (#4103492)

HOw the #### do you let Edwin Encarnacion steal 2 bases?

150. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:06 PM (#4103494)

New to the Jarrod Saltalamacchia experience are you?

151. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:07 PM (#4103496)

They both look pretty good to me, but Watney's just stunning.

152. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:08 PM (#4103498)

Good lord, do the BABIP gods hate Bard.

153. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:08 PM (#4103499)

Nick Punto has been an utter ####### failure tonight.

154. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:09 PM (#4103501)

Just watch, Thomas is going to let those runs score so people can point to Bard's 8+ ERA tomorrow.

155. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:10 PM (#4103502)

Or 9.00, as the case would be. Thought he got one out.

156. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:12 PM (#4103504)

I'm confident that by August I wil have forgotten that Justin Thomas was a member of the Red Sox.

157. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:12 PM (#4103505)

Please tell me Thomas will not be pitching to anyone but LHBs.

158. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:13 PM (#4103506)

You people who think Jenny Dell is more attractive than Heidi Watney could not be more wrong.

Who are you guys talking about?

*Google Image Search*

While they are both comely lasses, I'll side with Jose on this one.

159. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:14 PM (#4103507)

And the Yankees tie their game in Baltimore after a (shocking) Mark Reynolds error.

160. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:14 PM (#4103508)

oh god

161. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:14 PM (#4103510)

I love when LOOGYs can't throw strikes.

162. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:14 PM (#4103511)

Love me that lefty reliever you can call on to come in and walk a lefty hitter for you. Maybe we can also trade Thomas to the Giants where people will think he's good.

163. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:16 PM (#4103513)

Walk him, don't give up the grand slam.

164. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:16 PM (#4103516)

Damn it!

165. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:16 PM (#4103517)

####### Thomas.

166. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:16 PM (#4103518)

Why is this useful fat #### pitching in a 2 run game?

167. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:16 PM (#4103520)

And time to get caught up on the ol DVR.

168. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:17 PM (#4103521)

That should obviously have read useless.

169. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:18 PM (#4103524)

Justin Thomas = Dennys Reyes.

170. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:19 PM (#4103526)

Thank you for both giving away a winnable game and doing your best job to let the runners score to inflate Bard's ERA, Bobby. If you point to Bard's ERA and try and yank him from the rotation you can go #### yourself.

171. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:19 PM (#4103527)

Dennys Reyes has pieces of Justin Thomas in his stool.

172. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:20 PM (#4103529)

Andrew Miller or Rich Hill has Thomas's job within two weeks, right?

173. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:21 PM (#4103531)

Seriously, Valentine writes Punto into the lineup who costs Bard at least 1 run, probably 2 with his glove, then brings in JUSTIN THOMAS down by 2 with 2 runners on in the 6th inning. ####### stupid.

174. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:22 PM (#4103533)

Looking up more info about this Heidi Watney woman:

She was a National Merit Scholar and attended the University of San Diego on an academic scholarship, where she graduated with honors in 2003[5].

Beautiful AND educated? You gotta lock that down.

175. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:25 PM (#4103538)

Eric "Strangeglove" Thames doing his thang.

176. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:25 PM (#4103539)

Nice hit by Sweeney. Pity about the size of the hole to dig out of.

177. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:26 PM (#4103540)

That leadoff double would be a lot more exciting in a 2 run game.

178. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:28 PM (#4103542)

Watching Cody Ross hit against righties makes me sad. On that note, apparently Crawford now has a sore left elbow and can't throw.

179. UnclePab Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:30 PM (#4103546)

What's the timeline for Kalish?

180. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:32 PM (#4103547)

I think it would be optimistic to expect anything out of Kalish before June.

181. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:32 PM (#4103548)

On that note, apparently Crawford now has a sore left elbow and can't throw.

Just a flesh wound!

182. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:37 PM (#4103555)

Wieters somehow just framed a pitch despite being crossed up and got the call to K ARod.

183. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:40 PM (#4103560)

Mark Teixeira continues to look like he's trying to play home run derby instead of baseball.

184. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:41 PM (#4103561)

Casting aside personal preferences, I think Watney is, objectively, better looking than Dell. I'm not a guy for blondes but she's just stunning.

That said, I do prefer brunettes, and Dell isn't ridiculously outclassed. And pretty sure she has a better body.

185. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:44 PM (#4103564)

Dell appears to have crazy eyes, at least in still photos.

186. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:45 PM (#4103565)

Punto, trying to look useful.

187. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:46 PM (#4103566)

I think Watney is, objectively, better looking than Dell.

Objectively speaking, you are an idiot.

188. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:46 PM (#4103567)

The only stunning thing about Heidi Watney is how such an unremarkable looking woman has so many guys on the internet drooling all over their keyboards.

189. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:46 PM (#4103568)

Wow, Encarnacion got all of that one.

190. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:48 PM (#4103569)

On top of that, Watney has fewer curves than the path between home plate and first base.

191. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:49 PM (#4103571)

I'm only talking about her face. But if you don't look at her face and see something at least close to a 9, then you just don't like her "type." Or phenotype.

192. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: April 10, 2012 at 09:53 PM (#4103576)

Oh and by the way, #### this ####### game.

193. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:00 PM (#4103582)

Man, you can't say that Lawrie does anything halfway. Those seats along the 3rd base side are not safe.

194. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:00 PM (#4103583)

I'm only talking about her face. But if you don't look at her face and see something at least close to a 9

6. Maybe 7.

195. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:06 PM (#4103585)

Seriously, Valentine writes Punto into the lineup who costs Bard at least 1 run, probably 2 with his glove, then brings in JUSTIN THOMAS down by 2 with 2 runners on in the 6th inning. ####### stupid.

You do know that Aviles is hurt, right? I'm not sure who else he'd write into the lineup.

I don't even know why I'm pointing this out to you, because clearly your comments about Heidi Watney mark you as an insane person.

196. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:08 PM (#4103587)

Actually I had missed the Aviles injury. Still disappointed at Punto's performance with the glove tonight.

197. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:25 PM (#4103591)

Uh, guys?

You wanna stop letting them get hits now?

Please?

198. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:26 PM (#4103593)

Adrian Gonzalez gets a ground-rule double and looks disappointed with himself.

199. Jay Seaver Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:29 PM (#4103595)

Grr... Eck is saying that those two runs in the 6th dropped Bard from a good outing to one that was mediocre at best. Thanks, Justin Thomas.

200. Dan Posted: April 10, 2012 at 10:32 PM (#4103596)

So Justin Thomas dropped Bard from good to mediocre?

That makes sense.

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