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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Monday, August 18, 20031907 Results - Sliding Billy ElectedIn his first year of eligibility, Billy Hamilton was easily elected to the Hall of Merit, beating Ezra Sutton 877-674. Sutton was the runner-up for the second year in a row. Joe Start jumped over Bid McPhee and Pud Galvin to finish 3rd. Galvin also fell behind McPhee to finish 5th. Cal McVey and Harry Stovey remained 6th and 7th, Charlie Bennett moved ahead of Sam Thompson to finish 8th, Hugh Duffy finished 9th in his first year of eligibility and Thompson rounded out the top 10. Cupid Childs was the only other newcomer with significant support, finishing 11th. RK LY Player Pts Ballots 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 1 n/a Billy Hamilton 877 41.0 23 8 5 3 2 2 2 Ezra Sutton 674 38.3 7 11 6 2 2 4 2 2 1 1.3 3 5 Joe Start 631 37.3 5 3 9 5 3 4 4 2 1 1.3 4 4 Bid McPhee 608 41.0 2 5 3 2 9 4 6 1 2 1 1 2 3 5 3 Pud Galvin 599 38.0 2 2 5 11 5 4 1 3 1 1 2 1 6 6 Cal McVey 556 38.0 5 4 8 5 4 1 1 1 4 1 1 1 2 7 7 Harry Stovey 540 39.0 4 2 1 3 7 5 3 6 3 2 1 1 1 8 9 Charlie Bennett 468 35.0 1 1 2 1 4 1 9 3 4 3 1 3 1 1 9 n/a Hugh Duffy 437 37.0 1 1 2 3 3 7 4 3 5 2 3 1 2 10 8 Sam Thompson 425 36.0 1 1 1 2 1 4 4 2 8 2 2 3 3 2 11 n/a Cupid Childs 324 30.0 1 2 1 2 6 3 2 2 5 3 3 12 10 Pete Browning 265 25.5 1 3 1 4 6 6 4 0.5 13 11 Mike Tiernan 258 27.0 1 2 1 4 2 4 6 5 2 14 13 Lip Pike 221 20.0 1 1 1 1 2 4 2 1 2 1 3 1 15 12 Bob Caruthers 206 18.0 1 3 1 1 2 3 1 2 4 16 16 Mike Griffin 154 17.0 1 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 17 15 Ed Williamson 152 17.5 1 2 7 3 4 0.5 18 14 Jim McCormick 135 13.0 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 19 18 Dickey Pearce 118 12.0 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 20 17 Mickey Welch 86 9.0 1 2 2 1 1 2 21 21 Jim Whitney 52 5.0 1 1 3 22 25 Charley Jones 47 5.0 1 2 1 1 23 35 Harry Wright 45 4.0 1 1 1 1 24 20 Tony Mullane 39 5.0 1 1 1 2 25 24 Tip O'Neill 35 3.0 2 1 26 19 Fred Dunlap* 32 4.0 1 1 2 27 23 Bud Fowler 32 3.0 1 1 1 28 27 Jack Clements 24 3.0 1 1 1 29 22 Billy Nash* 21 2.5 1 1 0.5 30 28 Dave Foutz 21 2.0 1 1 31 26 Tom York* 13 2.0 1 1 32 n/a Elmer Smith+ 13 1.5 1 0.5 33 32 Tommy Bond 13 1.0 1 34T 36 Bill Hutchison 10 1.0 1 34T n/a Nig Cuppy 10 1.0 1 36 33 Levi Meyerle 9 1.0 1 37 29T Jack Stivetts 7 1.0 1 38 31 Denny Lyons 2 0.3 0.3 *won tie-breaker (head-to-head on individual ballots) +finished 2nd in tie-breaker (head-to-head on individual ballots) Dropped Out: Ed McKean (29T), Jim Creighton (34), Bill Joyce (37T),George Stovey (37T), Bobby Mathews (39T), Dave Orr (39T), Gus Weyhing (39T). JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: August 18, 2003 at 08:09 PM | 10 comment(s)
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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: August 18, 2003 at 08:20 PM (#516734)Gee, do you like Hughie, Marc? :-)
He will get a lot of support from peak voters. I mentioned on another thread that if I weighed peak more, Ee-Yah might be my number one choice. However, I weigh peak the same as career (which is more in step with the other voters).
So right now I have Hughie as the #3 peak. Among 25-30 players, he will probably be 20th or so for career (wild guess). Average the two and you get 11.5. Of course it doesn't quite work that way, but in any event I didn't say he was #3 overall. But like another poster, I think posterity has underrated Hughie as a mistake in the Joe Kelley, Tommy McCarthy mold. Especially if you note that he was an outstanding defender as well as a more productive offensive player than Billy Hamilton (for 5), then I believe he was the best player in baseball for 3 to 5 years.
I have Jennings slightly ahead of Kelley as of right now. While Kelley didn't have Jennings peak, he had more meat to his career.
Comparing Jennings to McCarthy is a joke, so I agree that is a mistake.
http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=10196913&ad=1
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