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Tuesday, December 23, 2003

1916 Results - Stovey elected in closest voting ever

In the closest balloting in the 19-year history of the Hall of Merit, Harry Stovey was elected, outpointing Joe Kelley 667-665. It was a wild election, 11 candidates received a first-place vote and no candidate was named on every ballot. 44 voters sent in ballots for the 2nd consecutive year. Stovey was in his 18th year of eligibility and will be 60 in December. He’s the 3rd oldest player selected to the Hall of Merit (Joe Start was almost 70 and Cal McVey was a month shy of his 64th birthday when inducted).

The previous closest election was Bid McPhee defeating McVey 751-747 in 1913 (McVey was elected a year later). The only other election decided by less than 10 points was in 1906, when Al Spalding defeated Ezra Sutton by 8.5 points. Sutton was elected in 1908.

Kelley nearly closed a 21-point gap from the 1915 election. Stovey’s two extra first place votes (9 vs. 7) sealed the deal for him, despite his being left off three ballots (Kelley was left off two ballots).

First-year eligible Elmer Flick was right on Stovey and Kelley’s heels, with 651 points. Another first-timer finished 4th, Wee Willie Keeler finished with 619 points.

Charlie Bennett moved from 6th to 5th, moving past Jimmy Collins.

There was a lot of movement this year Joe McGinnity moved up a spot into 7th (he and several others passed Sam Thompson, who dropped off 6 ballots entirely, and fell from 7th to 10th place).

Bob Caruthers vaulted from 14th to 8th place, being named on eight more ballots this year. Frank Grant moved from 10th to 9th (despite dropping from 356 to 352 points) and Thompson rounded out the top 10.

Lip Pike also made a run, moving past Hugh Duffy, Jimmy Ryan and George Van Haltren into 11th place.

Other first-year eligibles to receive votes include Rube Waddell (12th), Addie Joss (21st), Vic Willis (22nd), Cy Seymour (tied for 37th), Deacon Phillippe (42nd) and Ginger Beaumont (43rd).

Rk   LY  Player             Pts Bal    1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15
 1    3  Harry Stovey       667  41    9  4  6  3  3  1  2  2  2  1     3  2  3   
 2    4  Joe Kelley         665  42    7  3  3  6  2  4  4  3     4  2  2  1  1   
 3  n/e  Elmer Flick        651  40    4  5  4  4  9  3  2  3  1  3  1  1         
 4  n/e  Willie Keeler      619  41    5  5  3  3  2  4  4  3  2  2  3     2  2  1
 5    6  Charlie Bennett    586  33    9  8  2  3  1  1  3  2     1           3   
 6    5  Jimmy Collins      558  39    2  5  5  1  3  4     5  3  2  3  1  4     1
 7    8  Joe McGinnity      444  32    1  2  4  4     6  3     2     3  2  3  2   
 8   14  Bob Caruthers      379  31    2  2  1  3  1     2  2     1  6  3  3  2  3
 9   10  Frank Grant        352  29          1  3  4  3     2  3  2  2  2  4  2  1
10    7  Sam Thompson       345  24    1  2  4  4  2  1  1     2  1  1  2     1  2
11   13  Lip Pike           320  22    2  3  2  1  3     1  1  3  1  2     1     2
12  n/e  Rube Waddell       311  23       1  1  2  3  1  2  3  2  3  1  2  1  1   
13    9  Hugh Duffy         303  25             2  3     3  5  3  1  2  3  1     2
14   11  Jimmy Ryan         298  25                3  2  4  1  4  4  2  1  2  2   
15   12  George Van Haltren 271  23          1     1  5  1  2  2  2  2  3  1  3   
16   15  Jake Beckley       259  24          1  1  1     2  2  2  3  3  2  3  1  3
17   17  Dicky Pearce       244  18    2     1  2     3        2  3  1     4      
18   16  Hughie Jennings    236  19       3  1  1     1  1     3  4     1  1     3
19   18  Pete Browning      200  17          1     2  1  2  2  1  2  2        3  1
20   19  Clark Griffith     164  17                      1  1  2  2  2  4  1  3  1
21  n/e  Addie Joss         112  10          2           2  1        1        1  3
22  n/e  Vic Willis         101  13                         1        1  3     3  5
23   21  Cupid Childs        94  10.5        1              1  1           2  2  3.5
24   20  Jim McCormick       86   9                1  1        1  1        1     4
25   22  Mickey Welch        69   6.5     1           1        1              2  1.5
26   28  Lave Cross          55   6                            1     1  2  1  1   
27   24  Charley Jones       45   5                         1           2  1     1
28   30  Harry Wright        43   4                      1     1  1              1
29   25  John MGraw          42   3.5           1     1                       1   .5
30   23  Mike Tiernan        37   4.5                                   2  2      .5
31   32  Herman Long         29   3.5                                1  1     1   .5
32   26  Fielder Jones       23   3                                     1     2   
33   33  Tip O'Neill         21   2                   1                          1
34   27  Ed Williamson       17   2.5                                      1     1.5
35   29  Tony Mullane        16   2                                     1     1   
36   31  Mike Griffin        15   2                                        1  1   
37T n/e  Cy Seymour          14   1                      1                        
37T  34  Jim Whitney         14   1                      1                        
37T  36  Tommy Bond          14   1                      1                        
40   --  Tom York            13   1                         1                     
41   37  Levi Meyerle        10   1                                  1            
42  n/e  Deacon Phillippe     8   1                                        1      
43  n/e  Ginger Beaumont      6   1                                              1
Dropped Out: Jack Chesbro (#35), Bobby Mathews (#38T), Jesse Tannehill (#38T),
Silver King (#40).

Since the last results were announced, two great HoMers of the early 70s have passed away, Ross Barnes, age 64 (February 1915) and Al Spalding age 65 (September 1915).

JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head Posted: December 23, 2003 at 11:10 PM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: December 23, 2003 at 11:21 PM (#520458)
Three cheers for Harry Stovey...

... and Joe Kelley will have to wait until at least 1918!
   2. Marc Posted: December 23, 2003 at 11:59 PM (#520460)
And the precedents auger well for Kelley. I think the average Joe would be shocked at Joe Kelley going in ahead of Willie Keeler, Elmer Flick and the Iron Man, not to mention the idea of Jimmy Collins trailing any (much less all) of them. But of course the average Joe would probably have difficulty understanding Stovey going ahead of any, or all, of them.

What does the future hold for Charlie Bennett? I think the guys with 42-41-40-39 ballots look good. They can all move up a slot or two pretty easily. Bennett, with his measly 33 ballots, faces a tougher task. Just moving up 33 ballots might not be enough, and I don't know how many of the other 11 have him within shouting distance.

For those who were keeping score on the fly, how far behind was Stovey? His supporters hung back, I thought he was a goner for sure. But according to my scoresheet he made up 29 points on the last 5 ballots posted, 56 on the last 10 and 116 on the last 20. So I guess he was behind by at least 110 at his trough. Did you Stovey supporters get together on this?
   3. Marc Posted: December 24, 2003 at 12:08 AM (#520461)
And I s'pose now that you AA guys have TWO HoMers, you're just gonna want MORE, MORE, MORE. Some people are never satisfied! ;-)

(Caruthers will be high on my ballot. But he's the last one, I tell you!)
   4. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: December 24, 2003 at 12:45 AM (#520462)
Did you Stovey supporters get together on this?

When I voted, Stovey was in fourth place. I thought he was toast, too.
   5. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: December 24, 2003 at 12:54 AM (#520463)
BTW (before I forget), have a happy and safe holiday!
   6. ronw Posted: December 24, 2003 at 12:59 AM (#520464)
After Young and Clarke are elected, I'm interested to see where the Stovey supporters go. The consensus top 5 in 1918 and 1919 may be a combination of Kelley, Flick, Keeler, Bennett and Collins, unless Jimmy Sheckard gets some big newbie support.

Next year, Bennett will probably fall significantly, as he will have few "elect him" extra points, and he is already off several ballots. In fact, his 3 14th place votes will probably also be nonexistent next year. However, he has enough loyal supporters (tied most 1st place votes, most 2nd place votes) that he could get elected in a weak year.
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: December 24, 2003 at 02:32 AM (#520465)
Stovey pops up here with 1890 NY PL........

TEAMS WITH SIX HALL OF MERIT MEN
   8. Devin has a deep burning passion for fuzzy socks Posted: December 29, 2003 at 10:31 PM (#520466)
From the continuing series "Devin Wastes Time At Work", here's some HoMer Similarity Scores. (For the players this time.) I added the similarity scores of every HoMer who showed up in a player's 10-most-similar. I know about all the problems with Similarity Scores, but this is presented just as a curiosity. Use of any of this information in actual arguments is at your own risk.

Highest HoMer similarity scores for inducted players:
   9. Marc Posted: December 30, 2003 at 08:16 PM (#520470)
David, Joss/Ward are only similar on pitching stats. Here are their hitting stats (Joss first).

9 Seasons 296 817 46 118 21 6 1 51 10 0 54 0 .144 .198 .188 154 39 0 0 1 0
   10. Paul Wendt Posted: December 31, 2003 at 04:00 PM (#520472)
Marc:

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