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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Monday, May 30, 20051952 Results: Gibson and Ott Pummel Down the Doors of the Hall of Merit!With almost 100% of the possible votes for election (barely breaking the NeL record of 99.2% set by Oscar Charleston in 1943), Negro League legend Josh Gibson was elected to the Hall of Merit in his first year of eligibility. He is now the HoM’s fifteen Negro League induction. In also his first year appearing on a ballot, New York Giants slugger Mel Ott earned a healthy 95% of the possible votes for election to become the second player to be inducted this “year.” All-time great catcher Bill Dickey, in his first year of eligibility, appears to be headed for immortality himself within a few years with a strong showing as he placed third. Rounding out the top-ten were: Mule Suttles, John Beckwith, Earl Averill, Eppa Rixey, Wes Ferrell, Biz Mackey and Hughie Jennings. RK LY Player PTS Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 n/e Josh Gibson 1193 50 49 1 2 n/e Mel Ott 1144 50 1 48 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 n/e Bill Dickey 879 50 1 39 7 1 1 1 4 3 Mule Suttles 654 46 6 9 9 1 4 4 3 3 1 2 1 3 5 4 John Beckwith 569 42 2 7 6 8 1 3 5 1 2 3 1 1 2 6 7 Earl Averill 319 29 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 1 4 4 7 5 Eppa Rixey 317 29 1 3 2 2 3 2 4 3 3 4 2 8 6 Wes Ferrell 309 26 3 2 1 3 4 2 4 2 1 3 1 9 8 Biz Mackey 307 30 1 1 4 2 4 1 1 2 6 3 5 10 9 Hughie Jennings 287 22 1 2 5 3 1 3 1 1 1 2 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11 12 Cool Papa Bell 275 26 1 1 4 2 3 3 1 1 1 4 5 12 10 Clark Griffith 236 20 2 1 2 2 1 1 3 3 2 1 2 13 11 George Sisler 227 20 1 4 1 1 2 2 2 4 2 1 14 14 George Van Haltren 227 18 2 1 6 3 1 1 2 1 1 15T 13 Jake Beckley 198 16 1 1 1 1 2 1 4 1 2 1 1 15T 15 Joe Sewell 198 16 2 3 1 3 1 2 1 2 1 17 16 Hugh Duffy 183 16 4 1 1 3 3 1 1 2 18 18 Cannonball Dick Redding 164 15 1 1 1 2 1 2 2 3 2 19 20 Mickey Welch 156 12 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 20 22 Pete Browning 154 12 1 2 4 1 1 2 1 21 17 Edd Roush 144 14 1 1 3 4 2 2 1 22 26 Rube Waddell 141 16 2 1 1 2 1 3 3 3 23 24 Burleigh Grimes 140 13 2 2 1 1 2 1 1 3 24 19 Cupid Childs 136 13 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 25 23 Gavy Cravath 131 11 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 26 21 Tommy Leach 120 11 1 1 1 3 2 2 1 27 27 Wally Schang 118 10 1 1 1 2 1 2 2 28 25 Charley Jones 107 8 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 29 32 José Méndez 90 8 1 1 1 2 1 2 30T 28 Roger Bresnahan 76 7 1 1 2 1 2 30T 29 Larry Doyle 76 7 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 32 30 Bill Monroe 75 8 1 1 2 1 2 1 33 31 Bob Johnson 75 7 1 1 2 2 1 34 34 Dizzy Dean 69 6 1 1 1 1 1 1 35T 37 Dick Lundy 68 7 1 1 1 1 1 2 35T 33 Dobie Moore 68 7 1 1 1 1 1 2 37 35 Tommy Bridges 56 5 1 1 1 1 1 38 36 Sam Rice 53 5 1 1 1 2 39 38 Chuck Klein 52 4 1 1 1 1 40 39 Ben Taylor 45 5 1 1 1 1 1 41 41 John McGraw 35 4 1 1 1 1 42 42 Pie Traynor 26 2 1 1 43 43 Buzz Arlett 24 2 1 1 44T 44T George J. Burns 21 2 1 1 44T 40 Jimmy Ryan 21 2 1 1 46 47T Ed Cicotte 20 2 1 1 47T 54 Spotswood Poles 17 2 1 1 47T 44T Vic Willis 17 2 1 1 49 47T Carl Mays 14 1 1 50 50T Tommy Bond 13 1 1 51 49 Hack Wilson 12 2 2 52T 50T Wally Berger 12 1 1 52T 50T Lefty Gomez 12 1 1 52T 50T Dolf Luque 12 1 1 55 64T Donie Bush 10 1 1 56 55T Sam Leever 9 1 1 57 58T Rabbit Maranville 8 1 1 58 n/e Fielder Jones 7 1 1 59T 60T Frank Chance 6 1 1 59T 60T Tony Mullane 6 1 1 59T 57 Buddy Myer 6 1 1 59T 55T Lon Warneke 6 1 1 Dropped Out: Wilbur Cooper(58T), Paul Derringer(64T), Duke Farrell(60T), Harry Hooper(64T), Addie Joss(60T), Heinie Manush(64T), Ed Williamson(46). John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy
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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: May 31, 2005 at 12:51 AM (#1372332)Otherwise I agree.
My voter study this time is the "Best Friends" list:
Gibson (1) Nearly unanimous
Ott (1) yest (and nearly unanimous 2nd)
Dickey (2) yest (and majority 3rd)
Suttles (3) Rusty Priske, Eric Enders, Brad G, Trevor P, favre, Ken Fischer
Beckwith (3) John Murphy, Gadfly
Averill (4) Jim Sp
Ferrell (4) Thane of Bagarth, Michael Bass, Brent
Rixie (4) Rusty Priske
Mackey (4) Jeff M
Jennings (3) jimd
Bell (4) Don F
Sisler (3) yest
Griffith (4) Tom H, DanG
Van Haltren (5) DanG, Rusty Priske
Sewell (5) Jim Sp, EricC
Beckley (3) karlmagnus
Duffy (6) Dr. Chaleeko, Kelly from SD, Esteban Rivera, Brad G
Redding (4) Gadfly
Welch (4) karlmagnus, Kelly from SD, Daryn, Adam Schafer, Esteban Rivera
Browning (4) Sean Gilman
Roush (5) Mike Webber
Waddell (8) Esteban Rivera, Dolf Lucky
Grimes (6) SWW, Adam Schafer
Childs (6) John Murphy
Schang (4) EricC
Cravath (2) Gadfly
Leach (5) Devin McCullen
C. Jones (4) Rick A
Mendez (6) Michael Bass
Bresnahan (5) John Murphy
Doyle (5) OCF
B. Johnson (4) Al Peterson
Dean (5) Thane of Bagarth
D. Moore (4) Sunnyday2
Lundy (5) KJOK
Monroe (6) Jeff M
Bridges (6) Rob Wood
Rice (8) SWW
Klein (4) Dolf Lucky
Taylor (6) Thane of Bagarth
McGraw (10) Tom H
Traynor (6) yest
Arlett (4) David C. Jones
Ryan (9) Ron Wargo
Burns (9) Dr. Chaleeko
Cicotte (7) karlmagnus
Willis (12) Rick A
Poles (11) Dr. Chaleeko
H. Wilson (15) yest, karlmagnus
From here down, the only friends of:
Mays (7) Mike Webber
Bond (8) Sunnyday2
Berger (9) Mike Webber
Luque (9) PhillyBooster
Gomez (9) EricC
Donie Bush (11) Dolf Lucky
Leever (12) karlmagnus
Maranville (13) jimd
F. Jones (14) Thane of Bagarth
Warneke (15) Thane of Bagarth
Myer (15) EricC
Chance (15) John Murphy
Mullane (15) Dolf Lucky
I kind of like it that way - HOM-speaking, that is.
That's exactly what I did, OCF. I guess I was going a little too fast at the very end. Thanks for spotting it!
Beckley grabs the No. 4 spot. Waddell staggers into the top 10. Childs takes spot No. 14. Beckwith up 3 spots to No. 22.
JENNINGS 14297
VAN HALTREN 14123.5
DUFFY 13779.5
BECKLEY 13466
Pike 13399
Thompson 12349
GRIFFITH 12249
BROWNING 11854.5
Bennett 11503
WADDELL 10783
Caruthers 10704
RYAN 10483.5
WELCH 9756
CHILDS 9681
Stovey 9576
Start 8378.5
McGinnity 8232
Pearce 8073
McVey 7985.5
Grant 7969.5
BRESNAHAN 6917
BECKWITH 6845
Galvin 6585
LEACH 6569
Sheckard 6377
(RIXEY 5801, C. JONES 5642, SISLER 5545, SUTTLES 4946, MONROE 4910, SEWELL 4561)
For the first time, I am attempting a systematic evaluation of all candidates (for there now are many deserving players at multiple positions). Expect to see my rankings in the 1953 Ballot Discussion thread later this week.
For the first time, I am attempting a systematic evaluation of all candidates (for there now are many deserving players at multiple positions). Expect to see my rankings in the 1953 Ballot Discussion thread later this week.
This week it appears Earl Averill will miss my ballot. I like Averill; I hope he makes the HoM some day. But he's 3rd on my list of CF right now (behind CPB and GVH), and #16 overall.
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Anway, I have no panacea, just thinking out loud. Perhaps I will be simply much more brief in my required disclosures in the future. As in "Averill and Rixey - almost".
We would have loved for you to come, but we decided to have a small wedding . . .
I've kept a running tally of the placement of every candidate who has ever made the top 10 in any given year. Williamson earned a spot based on his 10th place finish in the very first election in 1898. Since then, I've watched him slide downward, and wondered if I should stop tracking him. I always kept up with him, though. But now that he has finally slipped off, I think I'll retire him with this little bit of pomp and circumstance. And then I'll start tracing the decline of support for Jimmy Ryan.
To Ned.
You guys are finally starting to see things my way. :)
Now, Ryan is another story. I voted for him maybe twice but he is not PHoM and now is in the 40s or 50s.
Column 1) Year
Column 2) Rank (Place of finish)
Column 3) Name
Column 4) Points
Column 5) Points for election
Column 6) Difference
Column 7) Difference/Ballot
Column 1) # appearances in above table
Column 2) Closest delta/ballot
Column 3) Year of closest miss
Column 4) Name
4. Suttles--probably 1956
5. Beckwith--probably 1958 when we elect 3
6. Averill--also 1958
7. Rixey--1960?
8. Ferrell
9. Mackey--1960?
10. Jennings
11. Bell--1961?
12. Griffith
13. Sisler
15. Beckley
25. Cravath--both Beckley and Cravath will move up and go in before Griffith and Sisler, not sure what they'll do compared to Ferrell and Jennings
Close but no cigar: Van Haltren, Welch, Sewell--Sewell may indeed be the closest guy who never makes it; I mean, it will be hard just to get within 13 at all
Not so close, but possibly top 10 again: Duffy, Redding, Waddell, Browning
And, nowhere: Ryan, Williamson
Deep sleeper: Schang--don't ask me why, I don't even understand it, an artifact of my method maybe
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