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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Sunday, September 04, 20051959 Results: You Can Look Back, It’s Just Satchel and the Big Cat Gaining on the Hall of Merit!In his first year of eligibility, the most legendary star of the Negro Leagues, Satchel Paige, easily gained induction with 97% of all possible points. He is the HoM’s 21st Negro League inductee to date. Another first-year inductee was famed slugging first baseman Johnny Mize , who was close behind Paige with 95% of all possible points. Breaking the record from the last election, there were 73 candidates who received at least one vote Rounding out the top-ten were: Joe Medwick, Red Ruffing, Hughie Jennings, Biz Mackey, Wes Ferrell, Earl Averill, Eppa Rixey, and Clark Griffith.
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John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy
Posted: September 04, 2005 at 09:49 PM | 31 comment(s)
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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 06, 2005 at 12:05 AM (#1599044)BTW, since I never received any results from any of the other ballot counters, there may be some errors. Paige and Mize will still be first and second, though. :-)
Doerr over Gordon again? Oms and Brown do worse?!
(sigh)
Carl Mays moved up 11 spots and Quincy Trouppe 10 among the also-rans.
Tommy Leach gained 8 among the dark horses.
Cool Papa Bell and Joe Sewell gained 6 among contenders.
The losers were Vic Willis (-17) and Willard Brown (-6), the latter possibly dropping from among the contenders to the dark horses?
In the top 10, Ruffing jumped Jennings, which could matter soon enough, certainly in the next decade, if (of course) it stays that way.
Uh, well, er...
...at any rate, it wasn't me! :-)
Jennings just missed more elect-me slots than Ruffing did. With no "no brainer" candidates next year Jennings should move back over Ruffing.
Probably even just a tad more of a shock than Biz Mackey and Wes Ferrell in the top 10.
The method is as follows.
1) Assume that we elect, say, 5 players from the backlog so that everybody moves up 5 places, and the #16-20 "votes" become #11-15 votes.
2) Move up #3-5 votes to elect me slots.
3) Move everything else up 5 slots, including the #16-20s.
The problems with this method are many, including that the players who would be elected and clear the ballot would include 5 of the above, whereas I leave them all on the ballot. Also, the specific impact on individual players would depend on who got elected and where they are on individual ballots, though that is going to be a difference of 1 or 2 points here or there. The biggest problem is that of the 47 ballots, I only have #16-20 for (I think it was) 14 of them, though I have partials and estimateds from another dozen or so that were ambiguous but provided some information. So best case I have about half the data needed, and so I doubled the points earned by #16-20 "votes."
So there's more than just "plenty" of caveats about this, it's just for fun.
For Joe Medwick, the new hypothetical total is as follows.
Medwick 375 (existing) + (10x4 new elect-me slots) + (2.5x10 is how far up those 10 votes move excluding the elect-me bonus) + (20 x 5 as all his other ballots move up 5 slots) + 27 (how many points he earns in actual #16-20 moving up to #11-15) + another 27 for the missing data = 594
Here are the rest in order of placement 1959:
Ruffing (was 367) projected 586
Jennings 554
Mackey 523
Ferrell 543 (passes Mackey)
Averill 543 (passes Mackey, ties Ferrell)
Rixey 513
Griffith 425
Sisler 404
Van Haltren 358
Bell 363 (passes Van Haltren)
Beckley 361 (passes Van Haltren)
Childs 348
Sewell 314
Browning 308
Doerr 355 (passes Childs, Sewell, Browning)
W. Brown 279
Duffy 345 (passes Sewell, Browning, Brown)
Welch 222
D. Moore 220
Redding 285 (passes Welch, Moore, Brown)
Mendez 260 (passes Welch and Moore)
Walters 240 (passes Welch and Moore)
Oms 216
Leach 191
Gordon 280 (passes Welch, Moore, Mendez, Walters, Oms, Leach)
That's as far as I went. The big winners in #16-20 votes alone (some of the shifts relates to elect-me bonuses, of course) are Averill, Duffy, Gordon, Doerr and Rixey.
>(sigh)
But, John, look who is the highest rated 2B!
dan b: +9.5
DanG: +8.2
andrew siegel: +7.0
OCF: +6.6
Adam Schafer: +6.6
...
Chris J: +1.7 (median)
...
karlmagnus: -4.6
John Murphy: -5.1
Patrick W: -5.3
Rusty Priske: -10.1 (That's who left off Satchel)
yest: -10.2 (Paige and Mize as 3-4 instead of 1-2)
Gadfly: -10.7 (The lowest vote for Mize)
Browning and Brown are my new Beckwith and Beckley. Thanks, OCF.
John Murphy: -5.1
That's about what I thought. I knew I wasn't going to be the outlier, though. :-)
But, John, look who is the highest rated 2B!
Yeah, I did notice that, Marc. :-)
No, you're thinking of El Gato Grande. :-)
I'll pay better attention to the dates for the 1960 election as EVERY vote / EVERY spot on a ballot will matter this time. No foregone conclusions this time.
Yeah, a while back someone went back and checked for players who got votes on all 15 ballot slots in a year. Stan Hack did it last year. It often occurs fairly well down the ballot, too, if I recall correctly, someone did it outside of the top ten one year (I want to say Cupid Childs?). Anyhow, yet another cool thing to track in HOM elections. :-)
It would be nice for easy reference. Something like:
Beckley finally moves into 3rd place
JENNINGS 16533
VAN HALTREN 15565.5
BECKLEY 14966
DUFFY 14930.5
GRIFFITH 13920
Pike 13399
BROWNING 12920.5
Thompson 12349
Bennett 11503
WADDELL 11468
WELCH 10872
Caruthers 10704
CHILDS 10768
RYAN 10602.5
Beckwith 9920
H Stovey 9576
Start 8378.5
McGinnity 8232
Pearce 8073
McVey 7985.5
Grant 7969.5
Suttles 7696
RIXEY 7624
BRESNAHAN 7501
T LEACH 7307
(Sisler 7079, C Jones 6393, Sewell 5714, Monroe 5263, Ferrell 5212, Doyle 4394, Roush 4372, Williamson 4323, Redding 4268, Mendez 4231)
(I'll doublecheck Averill next year)
Dropped Out: Wilbur Cooper(69T), Sam Jethroe(69T).
Ballots Cast: 47.
I could be wrong, but I think the small-font output is actually autogenerated by Evan's Amazing Ballot Counter. Maybe we could submit a feature enhancement request to Evan.
In some years that is kinda tricky.
Now, why didn't I think of that...
New version of the ballot counter available in the Yahoo groups site.
Mize also confounds my hitting 'regulars' syste (until I tweak it). He (barely) played more than half his team's games in 1952-53, but batted only 137 and 104 times. This is the first 'pure pinch hitter' season we've elected.
Red Faber -- 1932-33?
Whew, tough crowd! ;)
Ditto.
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