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1970 Results: The Hall of Merit Welcomes ‘50s Stars Snider and Wynn!

In his first year on the ballot, Dodger great Duke Snider received 95% of all possible points to be awarded a spot in the Hall of Merit.

In only his second year of eligibility, 300—game winner Early Wynn became the second inductee selected by the electorate this election by amassing 49% of all possible points.

Rounding out the top-ten were: Clark Griffith, Biz Mackey, Cool Papa Bell, George Van Haltren, Bobby Doerr, George Sisler, Cannonball Dick Redding, and Joe Gordon (his first appearnce on this list!) .

RK   LY  Player                   PTS  Bal   1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15
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 1  n/e  Duke Snider             1112   49  36  7  1  1     1     2     1               
 2    3  Early Wynn               578   36   3  4  4  6  3  6  2     1  1  2  2     1  1
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 3    5  Clark Griffith           389   28      4  4  2  2  2     1  2  2  1  1  3  3  1
 4    4  Biz Mackey               355   29   1     1     3  5     5  2  4  1     1  3  3
 5    7  Cool Papa Bell           326   23   2  2  1  1  2     3     5  2  1     3  1   
 6    6  George Van Haltren       317   23      2  5  3        1  2  1     3  3  1  1  1
 7    8  Bobby Doerr              311   23      2  3  2  4  1  2        1        5  1  2
 8    9  George Sisler            300   24   1     1  3  1  3     3  2  1  1  3  1  3  1
 9   11  Cannonball Dick Redding  289   20   1  1  2  2     4  2  2  1  1  1  2     1   
10   13  Joe Gordon               267   23      1     1  1  1  1  1  4  4  3  2  2  1  1
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
11   15  José Méndez              264   18      3  1  1  2  2  2     1  3     2     1   
12   10  Willard Brown            258   20      1  1  1  3  1  1  3  2  1  1  2  1  1  1
13   12  Jake Beckley             256   18   1  2  2  2  1  1  1     1     2  1  2  2   
14   14  Ralph Kiner              251   22            2  2     6  2     1  1  1     3  4
15   17  Dobie Moore              251   16   1  4     1  2  1  3        1              3
16   20  Pete Browning            229   16      2  3  2     1        1  3  1  2     1   
17   16  Hugh Duffy               220   16      1  2  1  2  1  1  2  1     2  1  2      
18   18  Joe Sewell               206   16         3  1  1  1  3        1  2  1  1  2   
19   19  Cupid Childs             201   16      1     1  1  2  1     3  3  1  1     1  1
20  n/e  Minnie Minoso            188   19      1  1              1  2  1  2  2  3  1  5
21   22  Rube Waddell             188   16            1  2  1  1  2  1  2  1  2  2     1
22   23  Bucky Walters            183   15         2           3  3  1  2  2           2
23  n/e  Billy Pierce             180   16         1  1     2     2  1  1  2  2  1  2  1
24   21  Alejandro Oms            179   12      1  2  3  1  1        1     2           1
25   24  Mickey Welch             169   10   1  2     2  1        3        1            
26   27  Charley Jones            157   11      1  2     1     2  1  2  1              1
27   25  Quincy Trouppe           149   13            1  1  1  1  3        2     1  2  1
28   28  Edd Roush                144   11      1        1  2  2  1        1  1  1  1   
29   31  Roger Bresnahan          141   11   1  1              1  1  2  1  1     2     1
30   29  Burleigh Grimes          124   11      1        2           1  1  1  1     3  1
31   26  Tommy Leach              124   10         2     2           3              2  1
32   32  Gavy Cravath             118    9   1        1     1     3           1  1     1
33   33  Bob Johnson              110   10            1     3              2     1  2  1
34   30  Larry Doyle              107    7      1  1  2        1              2         
35   34  Bob Elliott              104   11                  2        1  1  1     1  3  2
36   35  Wally Schang              93    8      1     1        1        1        2     2
37   37  John McGraw               77    5      1     1        1  1        1            
38   36  Charlie Keller            74    5               2  1  1  1                     
39   45  Tommy Bridges             45    5                           1        2  1  1   
40   49T Addie Joss                44    4               1        1              1  1   
41   48  Luke Easter               42    3         1     1                       1      
42T  38  Phil Rizzuto              41    4                  1           1     1        1
42T  39  Vic Willis                41    4                     1        1  1           1
44   44  Frank Chance              39    3         1                 1        1         
45   41  Ed Williamson             38    4                           1     1  1     1   
46T  42  Fielder Jones             38    3               1           1     1            
46T  43  Vern Stephens             38    3               1        1           1         
46T  46T Dizzy Trout               38    3            1           1              1      
49   40  Jimmy Ryan                37    4                     1              1  1     1
50   46T Bill Monroe               35    3            1                       2         
51   49T Dizzy Dean                33    3                        1  1           1      
52T  55T Ernie Lombardi            32    2      1                             1         
52T  52  Pie Traynor               32    2         1           1                        
54T  57  Chuck Klein               31    3                     1        1              1
54T  53  Carl Mays                 31    3                  1                    2      
56   51  Sam Rice                  30    3                           1        2         
57   54  Ben Taylor                29    2         1                    1               
58T  61T Ed Cicotte                23    2               1                          1   
58T  58  Gil Hodges                23    2                     1              1         
60T  65T Fred Dunlap               17    2                              1              1
60T  60  Red Schoendienst          17    2                              1              1
62   61T Johnny Pesky              16    1               1                              
63   63  Tetelo Vargas             14    1                     1                        
64   64  Bobby Veach               12    1                           1                  
65T  65T Artie Wilson              11    1                              1               
65T n/e  Tony Mullane              11    1                              1               
67T  68T Tommy Bond                10    1                                 1            
67T  68T Bus Clarkson              10    1                                 1            
67T  68T Sam Leever                10    1                                 1            
67T  65T Dutch Leonard             10    1                                 1            
71   72  Rabbit Maranville          9    1                                    1         
72T n/e  George Burns               8    1                                       1      
72T  77T Wilbur Cooper              8    1                                       1      
72T  73T Hack Wilson                8    1                                       1      
72T  59  Dick Lundy                 8    1                                       1      
76T  73T Dom DiMaggio               7    1                                          1   
76T  77T Spot Poles                 7    1                                          1   
76T  73T Virgil Trucks              7    1                                          1   
79T  77T Buzz Arlett                6    1                                             1
79T  77T Lefty Gomez                6    1                                             1
79T  73T Mickey Vernon              6    1                                             1
Dropped Out: Leroy Matlock(55T), Bobo Newsom(68T), Al Rosen(77T), Johnny Sain(77T).
Ballots Cast: 49

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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: February 21, 2006 at 01:03 AM (#1869872)

Congratulations are in order for Snider and Wynn!

Nice to see Gordon make the top-ten, while Griffith may finally enter the portals of the HoM next "year."

2. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: February 21, 2006 at 01:14 AM (#1869883)

HOF-not-HOM through 1970

1  Bender, Chief
2  Bresnahan, Roger
3  Chance, Frank
4  Chesbro, Jack
5  Combs, Earle
6  Cuyler, Kiki
7  Dean, Dizzy
8  Duffy, Hugh
9  Evers, Johnny
10 Griffith, Clark 
11 Grimes, Burleigh
12 Haines, Jesse
13 Hoyt, Waite
14 Manush, Heinie
15 Maranville, Rabbit
16 McCarthy, Tommy
17 McGraw, John 
18 Pennock, Herb
19 Rice, Sam
20 Roush, Edd
21 Schalk, Ray
22 Sisler, George
23 Tinker, Joe
24 Traynor, Pie
25 Waddell, Rube
26 Waner, Lloyd

And HOM not-HOF

1  Ashburn, Richie
2  Averill, Earl
3  Barnes, Ross
4  Bennett, Charlie
5  Caruthers, Bob
6  Connor, Roger
7  Dahlen, Bill
8  Davis, George
9  Doby, Larry
10 Ferrell, Wes
11 Glasscock, Jack
12 Gore, George
13 Groh, Heinie
14 Hack, Stan
15 Herman, Billy
16 Hines, Paul
17 Kelley, Joe
18 Lemon, Bob
19 Magee, Sherry
20 McPhee, Bid
21 McVey, Cal
22 Mize, Johnny
23 Newhouser, Hal
24 Pearce, Dickey
25 Pike, Lip
26 Richardson, Hardy
27 Reese, Pee Wee
28 Rusie, Amos
29 Sheckard, Jimmy
30 Slaughter, Enos
31 Snider, Duke
32 Start, Joe
33 Stovey, Harry
34 Sutton, Ezra
35 Thompson, Sam
36 Vaughan, Arky
37 White, Deacon
38 Wynn, Early 

3. OCF Posted: February 21, 2006 at 01:26 AM (#1869897)

Consensus scores:

Mean score of 49 voters: -7.6. (Median higher; we'll get there.) Highest possible score: +7. We have pretty good agreement on Snider and then the usual divisions below that.

Chris Cobb: 0
Howie Menckel: -1
Rusty Priske: -1
DanG: -2
TomH: -2
Daryn: -2
Esteban Rivera: -2
...
OCF: -6
Devin McCullen: -6 (Devin is the median guy; for a moment, I thought I was.)
Patrick W: -7
...
karlmagnus: -14
Jim Sp: -14
Kelly in SD: -14
yest: -16
Gadfly: -19
Dolf Lucky: -19
KJOK: -20

4. Mark Shirk (jsch) Posted: February 21, 2006 at 01:42 AM (#1869908)

It looks as if Minoso and Pierce have been backlogged but not out of existence. I fully expect Minoso to see a bump next year as everyone digests the new MLE's. If you haven't look at them you should, they could raise him onto a few more ballots (though I am not sure how much it effects my rating of him).

5. Howie Menckel Posted: February 21, 2006 at 01:39 PM (#1870277)

All-time 'vote points totals' leaders, through 1970. Active for 1971 vote in CAPS

Griffith passes Duffy for 3rd, moves up for 2nd straight year. But are his active days on this list now numbered?.... Browning in the midst of a decades-long stay in 6th place... Bresnahan leapfrogs Leach for 19th in their endless struggle... Frank Grant (7969.5) finally falls out of the top 25, replaced by Charley Jones.

TOP 25, ALL-TIME
VAN HALTREN 18811.5
BECKLEY 17819
GRIFFITH 17546
DUFFY 17432.5
Jennings 16976
BROWNING 15350.5
Pike 13399
CHILDS 13273
WADDELL 13144
WELCH 12821

Thompson 12349
Bennett 11503
RYAN 11038.5
Rixey 10826
Caruthers 10704
SISLER 10306
Beckwith 9896
H Stovey 9576
BRESNAHAN 8704
TLEACH 8697

Start 8378.5
McGinnity 8232
CJONES 8092
Pearce 8073
McVey 7985.5

OTHERS IN THE TOP 25 ACTIVE
(Sewell 7916, Mackey 7014, Redding 6857, Mendez 6526, CP Bell 5837, Monroe 5726, Roush 5651, Doyle 5523, Moore 4763, Williamson 4760, Cravath 4143, Grimes 4110)
ALMOST
(Schang 3882, McGraw 3766)

6. Howie Menckel Posted: February 21, 2006 at 01:41 PM (#1870278)

Pierce is 6th among pitchers, but he might be 4th with that extra vote from the guy with the next system. That's why I had hoped to see a revise in time for this list. Ah well.

7. DL from MN Posted: February 21, 2006 at 03:28 PM (#1870357)

I revised my ballot in time and had Pierce at #3.

8. DL from MN Posted: February 21, 2006 at 03:35 PM (#1870362)

I revised my ballot in time and had Pierce at #3.

9. OCF Posted: February 22, 2006 at 02:23 AM (#1871061)

Best friends of each candidate, 1970:

Snider: majority opinion (1)
Wynn: Dolf Lucky, Patrick W, Trevor P (1)
Griffith: DanG, TomH, Al Peterson, David Foss (2)
Mackey: Jeff M (1)
Bell: Pedro Feliz Navidad, Daryn (1)
Van Haltren: Ken Fischer, Rusty Priske (2)
Doerr: AJM, jimd (2)
Sisler: yest (1)
Redding: Max Parkinson (1)
Gordon: Jim Sp (2)
Mendez: caspian88, Michael Bass, Dr. Chaleeko (2)
Brown: Gadfly (2)
Beckley: karlmagnus (1)
Kiner: Mike Webber, dan b (4)
Moore: Michael Bass (1)
Browning: Esteban Rivera, Sean Gilman (2)
Duffy: dan b (2)
Sewell: TomH, EricC, jimd (3)
Childs: jschmeagol (2)
Waddell: Mark Donelson (4)
Minoso: Brent (2)
Walters: Dolf Lucky, Dr. Chaleeko (3)
Pierce: DL from MN (3)
Oms: favre (2)
Welch: Adam Schafer (1)
C. Jones: Rick A (2)
Trouppe: Dr. Chaleeko (4)
Roush: Mike Webber (2)
Bresnahan: KJOK (1)
Leach: Mike Webber, Devin McCullen (3)
Grimes: SWW (2)
Cravath: Gadfly (1)
Johnson: DL from MN (4)
Doyle: OCF (2)
Elliott: Ron Wargo, Jim Sp (6)
Schang: EricC (2)
McGraw: KJOK (2)
Keller: Kelly in SD, jschmeagol (5)
Bridges: Rob Wood (9)
Joss: caspian88 (5)
Easter: Gadfly (3)
Rizzuto: Brent (6)
Willis: Rick A (7)
Chance: KJOK (3)
Williamson: Rick A (9)
F. Jones: jimd (5)
Stephens: Jim Sp (5)
Trout: Dolf Lucky (4)
Ryan: Al Peterson (7)
Monroe: Devin McCullen (4)
Dean: Mark Donelson (8)
Traynor: yest (3)
Lombardi: Dolf Lucky (2)
Mays: Mike Webber (6)
Klein: yest (7)
Rice: yest (9)
Taylor: Thane of Bagarth (3)
Hodges: EricC (7)
Cicotte: karlmagnus (5)
Schoendienst: Jim Sp (10)
Dunlap: Jimd (10)
Pesky: Dolf Lucky (5, only)
Vargas: Gadfly (7, only)
Veach: jimd (9, only)
A. Wilson: Jeff M (10, only)
Mullane: Dr. Chaleeko (10, only)
Leonard: Patrick W (11, only)
Leever: karlmagnus (11, only)
Bond: Sunnyday2 (11, only)
Clarkson: Jeff M (11, only)
Maranville: jimd (12, only)
Lundy: Pedro Feliz Navidad (13, only)
H. Wilson: yest (13, only)
Wi. Cooper: Dr. Chaleeko (13, only)
Burns: Max Parkinson (13, only)
DiMaggio: Patrick W (14, only)
Trucks: Joe Dimino (14, only)
Poles: Thane of Bagarth (14, only)
Vernon: OCF (15, only)
Arlett: John Murphy (15, only)
Gomez: Pedro Feliz Navidad (15, only)

10. jimd Posted: February 22, 2006 at 03:18 AM (#1871112)

BBWAA Voting for 1970

Lou Boudreau  232  77.33  

Ralph Kiner  167  55.67  
Gil Hodges  145  48.33  
Early Wynn  140  46.67  
Enos Slaughter  133  44.33  
Johnny Mize  126  42.00  
Marty Marion  120  40.00  
Pee Wee Reese  97  32.33  
Red Schoendienst  97  32.33  
George Kell  90  30.00  
Allie Reynolds  89  29.67  
Johnny Vander Meer  88  29.33  
Hal Newhouser  80  26.67  
Joe Gordon  79  26.33  
Phil Rizzuto  79  26.33  
Bobby Doerr  75  25.00  
Bob Lemon  75  25.00  
Tommy Henrich  62  20.67  
Alvin Dark  55  18.33  
Phil Cavarretta  51  17.00  
Duke Snider  51  17.00  
Bucky Walters  29  9.67  
Dom DiMaggio  15  5.00  
Ewell Blackwell  14  4.67  
Bobo Newsom  12  4.00  
Richie Ashburn  11  3.67  
Mickey Vernon  10  3.33  
Walker Cooper  9  3.00  
Johnny Sain  9  3.00  
Ted Kluszewski  8  2.67  
Charlie Keller  7  2.33  
Bobby Shantz  7  2.33  
Dutch Leonard  5  1.67  
Wally Moses  5  1.67  
Don Newcombe  5  1.67  
Billy Pierce  5  1.67  
Bobby Thomson  4  1.33  
Harry Brecheen  3  1.00  
Augie Galan  3  1.00  
Carl Erskine  2  0.67  
Carl Furillo  2  0.67  
Vic Wertz  2  0.67  
Jackie Jensen  1  0.33  
Ed Lopat  1  0.33  
Gil McDougald  1  0.33  
Preacher Roe  1  0.33  
Larry Doby  0  0.00  
"blank line"

HOMers in bold.
Doby did receive votes in 1966-67.

11. Howie Menckel Posted: February 22, 2006 at 12:34 PM (#1871290)

Sorry, DL - so Pierce was 7th among pitchers until you moved him up to 6th!

I am best friend of no one (Snider doesn't count) - interesting.

12. jimfurtado

Posted: February 22, 2006 at 04:41 PM (#1871315)

Test

13. Mark Shirk (jsch) Posted: February 22, 2006 at 05:42 PM (#1871413)

I am the best friend of Cupid Childs and tied for the best friend of Charlie Keller.

14. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: February 22, 2006 at 06:27 PM (#1871479)

I'm only the best friend of Arlett (barely!), so maybe I'm becoming less extreme in my old age.

15. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: February 22, 2006 at 06:44 PM (#1871507)

Boy, I must be a popular fellow becuase I've got a lot of best friends!

16. jimd Posted: February 22, 2006 at 07:34 PM (#1871566)

I've got 6 best buddies (7 if you include Snider).
But I'm not in the bottom 7 on Consensus scores?
Eccentric but not outrageous...

17. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head Posted: February 23, 2006 at 03:25 AM (#1872073)

Real voting: Duke Snider 51 17.00%

Wow, that's right - the voters didn't really need the Duke in the early going. I forgot that it took him a long time to get elected. Like 10 years. How could Johnny Vander Meer get more votes! That's insane.

18. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: February 23, 2006 at 02:49 PM (#1872368)

Did Duke Snider ever throw two no-hitters in a row???????

I thought not!

19. Paul Wendt Posted: February 23, 2006 at 11:10 PM (#1873058)

Elsewhere I observed that the top ten incumbents include five pre- and Negro Leagues candidates, two 19ers, Sisler, Doerr and Gordon. Let me extend that.

The top 15 incumbents include six pre-/Negro Leagues, five 19th century, and four more.

The top 25 incumbents include eight pre-/Negro Leagues, eight 19th century, and nine others.
The others in voting results order:
Doerr, Sisler, Gordon, Kiner, Sewell, Minoso, Waddell, Walters, Pierce

chronologically:
Waddell, Sisler, Sewell, Walters, Doerr, Gordon, Kiner, Minoso, Pierce

20. yest Posted: February 24, 2006 at 10:48 AM (#1873540)

A list of eligible HoFers
HoMers in bold
all HoFers with significant playing careers are included
1936
Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson
1937
Nap Lajoie, Tris Speaker, Cy Young , Connie Mack, John McGraw, George Wright
1938
Pete Alexander
1939
George Sisler, Eddie Collins , Willie Keeler , Lou Gehrig, Cap Anson , Charlie Comiskey , Candy Cummings , Buck Ewing , Charles Radbourn , Al Spalding
1942
Rogers Hornsby
1945
Roger Bresnahan , Dan Brouthers , Fred Clarke , Jimmy Collins , Ed Delahanty , Hugh Duffy , Hughie Jennings , King Kelly , Jim O’Rourke , Wilbert Robinson
1946
Jesse Burkett , Frank Chance , Jack Chesbro , Johnny Evers , Clark Griffith , Tommy McCarthy , Joe McGinnity , Eddie Plank , Joe Tinker , Rube Waddell , Ed Walsh
1947
Carl Hubbell , Frankie Frisch , Mickey Cochrane , Lefty Grove
1948
Herb Pennock , Pie Traynor
1949
Charlie Gehringer , Mordecai Brown , Kid Nichols
1951
Mel Ott , Jimmie Foxx
1952
Harry Heilmann , Paul Waner
1953
Al Simmons , Dizzy Dean , Chief Bender , Bobby Wallace , Harry Wright
1954
Rabbit Maranville , Bill Dickey , Bill Terry
1955
Joe DiMaggio , Ted Lyons , Dazzy Vance , Gabby Hartnett , Frank Baker , Ray Schalk
1956
Hank Greenberg , Joe Cronin
1957
Sam Crawford
1959
Zack Wheat
1961
Max Carey , Billy Hamilton
1962
Bob Feller , Jackie Robinson , Bill McKechnie , Edd Roush
1963
John Clarkson , Elmer Flick , Sam Rice , Eppa Rixey
1964
Luke Appling , Red Faber , Burleigh Grimes , Miller Huggins , Tim Keefe , Heinie Manush , Monte Ward
1965
Pud Galvin
1966
Ted Williams , Casey Stengel
1967
Red Ruffing , Lloyd Waner
1968
Joe Medwick , Kiki Cuyler , Goose Goslin
1969
Stan Musial Roy Campanella , Stan Coveleski , , Waite Hoyt,
1970
Lou Boudreau , Earle Combs , Jesse Haines,
1971
Dave Bancroft , Jake Beckley , Chick Hafey , Harry Hooper , Joe Kelley , Rube Marquard , Satchel Paige
1972
Yogi Berra ,Early Wynn, Lefty Gomez , Ross Youngs , Josh Gibson , Buck Leonard
1973
George Kelly , Mickey Welch , Monte Irvin
1974
Jim Bottomley , Sam Thompson , Cool Papa Bell
1975
Ralph Kiner , Earl Averill , Bucky Harris , Billy Herman , Judy Johnson
1976
Bob Lemon , Roger Connor , Freddy Lindstrom , Oscar Charleston
1977
Amos Rusie , Joe Sewell , Al Lopez , Martin Dihigo , Pop Lloyd
1978
Addie Joss
1979
Hack Wilson
1980
Duke Snider, Chuck Klein
1981
Johnny Mize , Rube Foster
1982
Travis Jackson
1983
George Kell
1984
Rick Ferrell , Pee Wee Reese
1985
Enos Slaughter , Arky Vaughan
1986
Bobby Doerr , Ernie Lombardi
1987
Ray Dandridge
1989
Red Schoendienst
1991
Tony Lazzeri
1992
Hal Newhouser
1994
Leo Durocher , Phil Rizzuto
1995
Leon Day , Vic Willis , Richie Ashburn
1996
Bill Foster , Ned Hanlon
1997
Willie Wells
1998
George Davis , Larry Doby , Joe Rogan
1999
Joe Williams
2000
Bid McPhee , Turkey Stearnes
2001
Hilton Smith

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