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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Tuesday, May 30, 20061977 Results: Though No Postseason For Them, the Hall of Merit Still Says Yes to Banks and Bunning!In his first year of eligibility, “Mr. Cub” Ernie Banks was elected with an impressive 95% of all possible points to become a new member of the Hall of Merit. In his also his first year on the ballot, Tiger and Phillie ace Jim Bunning became the 150th inductee of the HoM by attaining 38% of all possible points. Poor George Sisler was the bridesmaid again by losing out to Bunning in the late innings. His day will come, but not today. Rounding out the tp-ten were: José Méndez, Cannonball Dick Redding, Minnie Minoso, Joe Sewell, Jake Beckley (nice move by him!), Hugh Duffy, and Dobie Moore. RK LY Player PTS Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 n/e Ernie Banks 1159 51 40 5 2 1 1 1 1 2 n/e Jim Bunning 462 36 1 2 2 3 2 3 1 5 1 1 6 2 2 2 3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 3 George Sisler 427 32 1 1 3 2 4 1 5 3 3 2 5 2 4 4 José Méndez 401 26 1 4 2 3 3 4 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 5 6 Cannonball Dick Redding 360 24 5 3 5 1 1 4 1 2 2 6 5 Minnie Minoso 359 32 1 1 3 2 2 1 4 2 1 4 5 4 2 7 7 Joe Sewell 341 25 2 4 1 1 4 2 2 1 2 2 2 1 1 8 11 Jake Beckley 312 21 1 4 1 4 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 9 10 Hugh Duffy 309 21 1 1 2 3 2 1 3 4 1 1 1 1 10 9 Dobie Moore 308 23 1 4 3 3 3 2 1 2 1 2 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11 8 Ralph Kiner 299 24 2 3 1 3 3 1 2 2 1 3 1 2 12 16 Cupid Childs 286 23 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 3 2 2 3 1 13 15 Billy Pierce 279 23 2 1 4 1 3 2 1 2 1 1 1 4 14 12 George Van Haltren 265 19 2 1 3 1 3 3 5 1 15 14 Ken Boyer 263 22 1 1 2 1 3 1 1 2 1 1 2 3 3 16 17 Rube Waddell 252 19 3 4 1 1 1 2 1 3 2 1 17 18 Nellie Fox 249 19 1 3 1 3 3 1 1 3 2 1 18 13 Pete Browning 248 18 3 3 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 19 19 Charley Jones 225 14 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 4 1 20 20 Quincy Trouppe 209 16 1 3 2 1 2 1 3 1 2 21 22 Edd Roush 202 16 2 1 2 1 1 4 1 1 3 22 21 Bucky Walters 195 18 2 1 1 1 4 1 1 2 2 3 23 23 Mickey Welch 188 11 1 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 24 25 Roger Bresnahan 177 14 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 25 24 Tommy Leach 176 14 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 26 27 Gavy Cravath 171 13 1 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 27 26 Bob Johnson 154 13 2 2 2 1 4 1 1 28 29 Bob Elliott 151 13 1 2 1 1 3 1 2 1 1 29 31 Charlie Keller 147 10 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 30 28 Alejandro Oms 141 13 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 3 31 32 Larry Doyle 135 9 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 32 30 Burleigh Grimes 125 9 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 33 33 Wally Schang 94 7 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 34 34 Dizzy Dean 87 9 3 1 2 2 1 35 35 John McGraw 82 5 1 1 1 1 1 36 38 Tommy Bridges 68 7 2 2 2 1 37 37 Vic Willis 60 6 1 1 1 2 1 38 36 Ben Taylor 58 5 1 1 1 2 39 40 Jimmy Ryan 57 6 1 1 1 1 2 40 47 Carl Mays 54 5 1 2 2 41 44 Bill Monroe 48 4 1 1 1 1 42 39 Sam Rice 47 5 2 1 2 43 42 Addie Joss 47 4 1 1 1 1 44 45 Pie Traynor 46 4 1 1 1 1 45 41 Vern Stephens 45 4 1 1 1 1 46 46 Phil Rizzuto 44 4 1 1 1 1 47 43 Elston Howard 41 5 1 1 1 1 1 48 56 Rabbit Maranville 37 3 1 1 1 49 50T Ernie Lombardi 33 3 1 1 1 50 50T Ed Williamson 32 3 1 1 1 51 49 Dutch Leonard 30 3 1 1 1 52 55 Frank Chance 29 2 1 1 53 54 Dave Bancroft 27 3 1 2 54 48 Lefty Gomez 25 2 1 1 55 58 Ed Cicotte 22 2 1 1 56 60 Fred Dunlap 19 2 1 1 57 52 Tony Mullane 17 2 1 1 58 53 Fielder Jones 17 1 1 59T 61 Luke Easter 16 1 1 59T 67T Bob Friend 16 1 1 61 64T Herman Long 15 1 1 62T 63 Chuck Klein 14 1 1 62T 64T Red Schoendienst 14 1 1 62T 64T Dizzy Trout 14 1 1 65T 67T Artie Wilson 12 1 1 65T 67T Sam Leever 12 1 1 65T 75 Curt Simmons 12 1 1 68T 72T Buzz Arlett 11 1 1 68T 70T Bus Clarkson 11 1 1 68T 59 Virgil Trucks 11 1 1 71T 72T Dom DiMaggio 10 1 1 71T 70T Bobby Veach 10 1 1 73T 72T Wilbur Cooper 9 1 1 73T 62 Hack Wilson 9 1 1 73T 57 Gil Hodges 9 1 1 76 n/e Larry Jackson 7 1 1 Dropped Out: Dick Bartell(77T), Wally Berger(77T), George J. Burns(76), George Kell(77T). Ballots Cast: 51 John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy
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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: May 31, 2006 at 12:02 AM (#2044523)Poor George...
HOF-not-HOM through 1977
1. Bancroft, Dave
2. Beckley, Jake
3 Bender, Chief
4 Bottomley, Jim
5 Bresnahan, Roger
6 Chance, Frank
7 Chesbro, Jack
8 Clemente, Roberto**
9 Combs, Earle
10 Cuyler, Kiki
11 Dean, Dizzy
12 Duffy, Hugh
13 Evers, Johnny
14 Gomez, Lefty
15 Grimes, Burleigh
16 Hafey, Chick
17 Haines, Jesse
18 Hooper, Harry
19 Hoyt, Waite
20 Johnson, Judy
21 Kelly, George
22 Kiner, Ralph
23 Lindstrom, Freddie
24 Manush, Heinie
25 Maranville, Rabbit
26 Marquard, Rube
27 McCarthy, Tommy
28 McGraw, John
29 Pennock, Herb
30 Rice, Sam
31 Roush, Edd
32 Schalk, Ray
33 Sewell, Joe
34 Sisler, George
35 Tinker, Joe
36 Traynor, Pie
37 Waddell, Rube
38 Waner, Lloyd
39 Welch, Mickey
40 Youngs, Ross
And HOM not-HOF
1 Ashburn, Richie
2 Barnes, Ross
3 Beckwith, John
4 Bennett, Charlie
5 Brown, Ray
6 Brown, Willard
7 Bunning, Jim
8 Caruthers, Bob
9 Dahlen, Bill
10 Davis, George
11 Doby, Larry
12 Doerr, Bobby
13 Drysdale, Don
14 Ferrell, Wes
15 Foster, Rube
16 Foster, Willie
17 Glasscock, Jack
18 Gordon, Joe
19 Gore, George
20 Grant, Frank
21 Groh, Heinie
22 Hack, Stan
23 Hill, Pete
24 Hines, Paul
25 Jackson, Joe*
26 Johnson, Home Run
27 Magee, Sherry
28 Mathews, Eddie
29 McPhee, Bid
30 McVey, Cal
31 Mize, Johnny
32 Newhouser, Hal
33 Pearce, Dickey
34 Pike, Lip
35 Richardson, Hardy
36 Reese, Pee Wee
37 Rogan, Bullet Joe
38 Santop, Louis
39 Sheckard, Jimmy
40 Slaughter, Enos
41 Snider, Duke
42 Start, Joe
43 Stearnes, Turkey
44 Stovey, Harry
45 Suttles, Mule
46 Sutton, Ezra
47 Torriente, Cristobal
48 Vaughan, Arky
49 Wells, Willie
50 White, Deacon
51 Williams, Smokey Joe
52 Wilson, Jud
* not eligible for the HOF
** not eligible for the HoM until 1978.
Average consensus score: -7.3, which is nothing unusual. 51 voters - exactly the same list as in 1976.
Michael Bass: 0
Howie Menckel: 0
Chris Fluit: -1
Ardo: -2
OCF: -2 (now that you've elected Brown and Gordon, neither of whom I was voting for)
favre: -3
Esteban Rivera: -4
Andrew M: -4
Dvin McCullen: -4
Rusty Priske: -4
Max Parkinson: -4
Sean Gilman: -4
...
Sunnyday2: -7 (median)
...
Chris Cobb: -8 (Chris Cobb below average?)
...
John Murphy: -12
Patrick W: -12
EricC: -13
yest: -14
Kelly in SD: -14
Brent: -15
Jim Sp: -17
karlmagnus: -18
KJOK: -21
Hmm..thought I would have doen better, though it's not like I'm that far off from the median.
Through most of the middle of the voting, Sisler had a 70 or 80 point lead over Bunning. That changed rather quickly in the last dozen or so ballots.
As OCF knows from previous campaigns, Sisler's support is strongest at the beginning, but tends to wane by the end of each election.
I think Bunning was underrated by the group, despite his election. Bill James had him as the #30 pitcher of all-time.
My newly revised system saw him head and shoulders above the backlog, with Pierce as the only one close - he was close, but Bunning was clearly ahead. I haven't had a chance to run Drysdale through it yet, but I'm thinking Bunning will be very close, if not ahead of him, and Drysdale went in with much stronger support. Bunning was one helluva pitcher at his best, and had a long prime too.
I'm really surprised at how poorly Elston Howard is doing - the only thing I can think of is that no one buys his case for extra credit? James had him as the #15 catcher of all-time, you'd think the peak voters would be rallying around him and not Sisler.
Those days are gone.
As to Bunning and Ellie Howard, Cooperstown has honored Bunning.
I've recently moved from PC to Mac. Still using MS Excel, but now that I'm Thinking Different, the macro buttons on the Official HOM Tally Sheet no longer work. I can move them around in Design Mode, but they don't actually respond when clicked. I've fiddled with the spreadsheet for days, trying to figure out the problem. The macros are enabled, the security locks are off. As far as I can tell, it should work. I've done everything but learn Visual Basic. So my question: has anyone else encountered this problem? What am I missing? Shall I be doomed to hand-tally once more?
Your assistance is, of course, appreciated.
Congrats!
1) B/c he debuted for the Casey Stengel/Yogi Berra Yankees, there's a perception that he spent a lot of time at positions other than catcher - but look at the record; he played OF/1B about as much as Trouppe's record suggests and far less than Bresnahan actually did.
2) This electorate has consistently under-rated consecutive peaks like Howard's 1961-64.
IMO, Trouppe and especially Schang are better catching candidates.
1. Howard
2. Trouppe
3. Bresnahan
4. Mackey
5. Lombardi
6. Schang
7. Clapp
8. W. Cooper
9. Carroll
10. Schalk or Ferrell or...but who really cares as they are outside the top 100 anyway.
Also,
How many peak guys are big fans of Sisler? I always figured it was prime guys and some of the guys who use more traditional stats (Karl, Yest, etc.) I would presume I am one of the bigger peak voters and I have had Sisler on my ballot (16th in 1977), but he isn't PHOM.
Browning passes Jennings for the 5th spot, after spending decades at No. 6.... Sisler again dodges election, reaches 13,000 pts, and sets himself up to take a top 10 spot away from Pike next year ;).... Sewell leaps past Leach, Bresnahan, and Stovey into the No. 18 slot... Negro Leagues hurlers Redding and Mendez both pass Mackey for the No. 23-24 slots.
TOP 25, ALL-TIME
VAN HALTREN 20887.5
BECKLEY 19730
DUFFY 19369.5
Griffith 17924
BROWNING 17044.5
Jennings 16976
CHILDS 14983
WADDELL 14646
WELCH 14089
Pike 13399
SISLER 13003
Thompson 12349
Bennett 11503
RYAN 11363.5
Rixey 10789
Caruthers 10704
Beckwith 9896
SEWELL 9861
TLEACH 9820
BRESNAHAN 9756
H Stovey 9576
CJONES 9316
REDDING 9250
MENDEZ 9008
Mackey 8930
OTHERS IN THE TOP 25 ACTIVE
(Moore 6841, Roush 6806, Doyle 6349, Monroe 6007, Cravath 5198, Williamson 4972, Grimes 4962, Schang 4525, McGraw 4298, Walters 3971)
almost
(Kiner 4039, Oms 3343, McCormick 3148X, Joss 3037, Willis 2884, Minoso 2545)
His drop off is so dramatic it pretty much screams, look at me. But a lot of guys don't have 7 years that good and their decline is almost that bad. Sisler is not far behind Banks in my book. Banks' peak is not much longer than Sisler's though he was a SS. And his decline was barely any better. Sisler's career shape is odd, but if you put half his decline at the beginning of his career and half at the end (instead of all 7 at the end), without adding any more good years to it, it would look just like anybody else's, but with a higher peak.
Feel free to e-mail me and I'll try to help you troubleshoot this.
Is this a sign of an upcoming election for these men?
In that 1932 election, Jimmy Ryan placed 13th, Bill Monroe 17th, and Spotswood Poles 19th.
Have these men merely fallen out of favor with the electorate, or has their case for candidacy weakened in the last "45 years."
Have these men merely fallen out of favor with the electorate, or has their case for candidacy weakened in the last "45 years."
The expansion of the backlog since then makes it impossible, on a 15-man ballot, for most voters to express their opinion on such players. Meaning, their case may be just as strong with a particular voter, but where they may have ranked 12th among the backlog 45 "years" ago, they're now crowded down to 27th, off the ballot.
Those days are gone.
They'll be back again in the mid-1980s.
And I think it's pretty likely we'll elect Sisler in 1979, unless the electorate is much more keen on Frank Howard than I anticipate.
I guess you could say it mirrors his career.
If Howard is elected, won't that make him the first loving HoMer that's not in Cooperstown? Then again, I would think Ron Santo is a more realistic candidate for that honor.
Name Votes PCT
Ernie Banks 321 83.81
Eddie Mathews 239 62.40
Gil Hodges 224 58.49
Enos Slaughter 222 57.96
Duke Snider 212 55.35
Don Drysdale 197 51.44
Pee Wee Reese 163 42.56
Nellie Fox 152 39.69
Jim Bunning 146 38.12
George Kell 141 36.81
Richie Ashburn 139 36.29
Red Schoendienst 105 27.42
Lew Burdette 85 22.19
Roger Maris 72 18.80
Alvin Dark 66 17.23
Harvey Kuenn 57 14.88
Ted Kluszewski 55 14.36
Mickey Vernon 52 13.58
Walker Cooper 45 11.75
Elston Howard 43 11.23
Don Newcombe 43 11.23
Don Larsen 39 10.18
Roy Face 33 8.62
Curt Flood 16 4.18
Ken Boyer 14 3.66
Bobby Thomson 10 2.61
Del Crandall 8 2.09
Harvey Haddix 7 1.83
Vern Law 5 1.31
Dick Groat 4 1.04
Vic Wertz 4 1.04
Bill White 4 1.04
Camilo Pascual 3 0.78
Johnny Podres 3 0.78
Larry Doby 0 0.00
Kell, Cooper, and Thomson were in their last year of eligibility.
Burdette quadrupled his support. Ashburn also had a big jump.
Correct, Dave.
I guess you could say it mirrors his career.
Good observation.
I had Banks #1 on my ballot, as did a big majority of us - but I would never have even considered putting him ahead of Eddie Mathews. I guess there are BBWAA members who could never bring themselves to vote for a .270 hitter. And the pitchers on that ballot: Burdette, Larsen (Larsen?), Face, Haddix, Law - and no Billy Pierce?
(Well, Larsen was quite a good hitter - not that that makes up for a career 99 ERA+. Sorry, but I define "peak" as something that lasts longer than 9 innings. Or even 12 innings.)
It's the RBI's ;-)
EB .274 512 1636
EM .271 512 1453
Man that was a tough group to impress!
Ernie Banks, considered a God by the media and fans everywhere only getting 84% of the vote?
Eddie Matthews, Enos Slaughter, Duke Snider, Don Drysdale, Pee Wee Reese, Nellie Fox, Jim Bunning, Richie Ashburn and Larry Doby not close!
So that gives me hope that the current BBWAA which also seems to be really tight (although some slip through see Perez, Tony, comparable to Hodges, Gil), will actually losen up at some point and start electing people besides the 1st ballot guys like Boggs and Ripken.
The BBWAA ended up electing 3 of those above, and the Vets Committee did a good job in electing the other 6. At some point they are going to have to change the rules and get the Vets Committee to the point where it can start electing people again, seeing ballots like that above make it obvious.
History has a strange way of repeating itself . . .
How about 12 innings or 18 innings?
Check out the ballot careers of Harvey Haddix and Johnny Vander Meer.
--
So that gives me hope that the current BBWAA which also seems to be really tight (although some slip through see Perez, Tony, comparable to Hodges, Gil), will actually losen up at some point and start electing people besides the 1st ballot guys like Boggs and Ripken.
Has the BBWAA stopped electing others? Perry, Jenkins, Niekro, Sutton all went in after a few years. Gossage will follow Sutter prety quickly. Rice and Dawson may follow Perez. But most sabermetric assessors are fonder of Simmons, Grich, Evans, and there ust be others, who don't make it to first base --killed on the first ballot by garnering less than 5% support.
The BBWAA ended up electing 3 of those above, and the Vets Committee did a good job in electing the other 6. At some point they are going to have to change the rules and get the Vets Committee to the point where it can start electing people again, seeing ballots like that above make it obvious.
Maybe, maybe not. Not if/while the HOF considers living Hall of Famers its most important constituency. That may continue until the living Hall of Famers die off --presuming a low election rate for a decade or three.
What I see in your future, JoeD, is a few more decades of hating that you care.
HoMers in bold
all HoFers with significant playing careers are included
1936
Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson
1937
Nap Lajoie, Tris Speaker, Cy Young , Connie Mack, John McGraw, George Wright
1938
Pete Alexander
1939
George Sisler, Eddie Collins , Willie Keeler , Lou Gehrig, Cap Anson , Charlie Comiskey , Candy Cummings , Buck Ewing , Charles Radbourn , Al Spalding
1942
Rogers Hornsby
1945
Roger Bresnahan , Dan Brouthers , Fred Clarke , Jimmy Collins , Ed Delahanty , Hugh Duffy , Hughie Jennings , King Kelly , Jim O’Rourke , Wilbert Robinson
1946
Jesse Burkett , Frank Chance , Jack Chesbro , Johnny Evers , , Clark Griffith, , Tommy McCarthy , Joe McGinnity , Eddie Plank , Joe Tinker , Rube Waddell , Ed Walsh
1947
Carl Hubbell , Frankie Frisch , Mickey Cochrane , Lefty Grove
1948
Herb Pennock , Pie Traynor
1949
Charlie Gehringer , Mordecai Brown , Kid Nichols
1951
Mel Ott , Jimmie Foxx
1952
Harry Heilmann , Paul Waner
1953
Al Simmons , Dizzy Dean , Chief Bender , Bobby Wallace , Harry Wright
1954
Rabbit Maranville , Bill Dickey , Bill Terry
1955
Joe DiMaggio , Ted Lyons , Dazzy Vance , Gabby Hartnett , Frank Baker , Ray Schalk
1956
Hank Greenberg , Joe Cronin
1957
Sam Crawford
1959
Zack Wheat
1961
Max Carey , Billy Hamilton
1962
Bob Feller , Jackie Robinson , Bill McKechnie , Edd Roush
1963
John Clarkson , Elmer Flick , Sam Rice , Eppa Rixey
1964
Luke Appling , Red Faber , Burleigh Grimes , Miller Huggins , Tim Keefe , Heinie Manush , Monte Ward
1965
Pud Galvin
1966
Ted Williams , Casey Stengel
1967
Red Ruffing , Lloyd Waner
1968
Joe Medwick , Kiki Cuyler , Goose Goslin
1969
Stan Musial, Roy Campanella , Stan Coveleski , , Waite Hoyt,
1970
Lou Boudreau , Earle Combs , Jesse Haines,
1971
Dave Bancroft , Jake Beckley , Chick Hafey , Harry Hooper , Joe Kelley , Rube Marquard , Satchel Paige
1972
Sandy Koufax , Yogi Berra ,Early Wynn, Lefty Gomez , Ross Youngs , Josh Gibson , Buck Leonard
1973
Warren Spahn , George Kelly , Mickey Welch , Monte Irvin
1974
Mickey Mantle , Whitey Ford , Jim Bottomley , Sam Thompson , Cool Papa Bell
1975
Ralph Kiner , Earl Averill , Bucky Harris , Billy Herman , Judy Johnson
1976
Robin Roberts, Bob Lemon , Roger Connor , Freddy Lindstrom , Oscar Charleston
1977
Ernie Banks ,Amos Rusie , Joe Sewell , Al Lopez , Martin Dihigo , Pop Lloyd
1978
Eddie Mathews, Addie Joss
1979
Hack Wilson
1980
Duke Snider, Chuck Klein
1981
Johnny Mize , Rube Foster
1982
Travis Jackson
1983
George Kell
1984
Don Drysdale, Rick Ferrell , Pee Wee Reese
1985
Enos Slaughter , Arky Vaughan
1986
Bobby Doerr, Ernie Lombardi
1987
Ray Dandridge
1989
Red Schoendienst
1991
Tony Lazzeri
1992
Hal Newhouser
1994
Leo Durocher , Phil Rizzuto
1995
Leon Day , Vic Willis , Richie Ashburn
1996
Jim Bunning, Bill Foster , Ned Hanlon
1997
Nellie Fox, Willie Wells
1998
George Davis , Larry Doby , Joe Rogan
1999
Joe Williams
2000
Bid McPhee , Turkey Stearnes
2001
Hilton Smith
2006
Ray Brown, Willard Brown, Andy Cooper, Biz Mackey, Mule Suttles, Cristobal Torriente, Jud Wilson, Frank Grant, Pete Hill, Jose Mendez Louis Santop, Ben Taylor, Sol White
Well, not all of these were killed on the first ballot. But here is a list of guys not eligible for the 2005 VC Election or the 2007 BBWAA election:
23 Recent Victims of the 5% Rule
Buddy Bell
Cesar Cedeno
Ron Cey
Jack Clark
Will Clark
Jose Cruz
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Bobby Grich
Ron Guidry
Keith Hernandez
Fred Lynn
Graig Nettles
Al Oliver
Lance Parrish
Darrell Porter
Dan Quisenberry
Willie Randolph
Ted Simmons
Ken Singleton
Rusty Staub
Dave Stieb
Lou Whitaker
You would make a good shrink Paul . . . you've got me down pat.
Boy, is that list criminal.
I've given up on HOF discussions and articles, approaching those done by writers I enjoy with the expectation of being, at best, disappointed.
This is the only discussion site on baseball that doesn't weaken my faith in my fellow human-who-are-baseball-fans.
Boy, is that list criminal.
Took the words right out of my mouth...or right out of The Hall of Corrections.
My latest fun-time project at Baseball Fever.
http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=44353
This is the same thing we could ask about religions, and baseball certainly has many things in common with religious thinking.
We could imagine that Cooperstown is Vatican City and the Hall is St. Peter's. The members of the Hall of Fame are the patron saints of baseball, intermediaries bewteen lowly, frightened, anxious, uneducated peasant fans and a remote and difficult-to-comprehend baseball God. This God makes his presence known to us by the fuzzy feeling we get when we hear the words "play ball," the ecstasies we go into when our team wins, and the special something that makes certain hitters so clutch.
The "book" is the bible of this Coopic Church. Small ball is god-like, take-and-rake is heterodoxy; questioning the wisdom of the saints borders on blasphemous. Don't bunt to break up a perfect game, you'll go to h*ll.
Bill James is the apostate; Moneyball is apochrypha. The Saints remind us always that when they roamed the field, the game was more perfect, and it was closer to the word; that we have decended into decadance and sloth by waiting around for homers.
Managers are the priests of this religion of baseball, for they hold the values and tell the scribes what lessons to deliver to the flocks. Their sermons are given at the 30 megachurches of the baseball religion as well as in smaller outposts throught the land.
But the people, the fans, we are just the lowest of the low. The religion of Cooperstown takes our tithings and offers us mystery in return, but it ultimately does little to change and meet the needs of its parishoners; it hangs onto dogma after it's no longer terribly useful, and it doesn't typically acknowledge or help us grapple with the problems of the distant or recent past, nor for that matter with the complex present.
Or perhaps this extended metaphor is itself blasphemous, and I should just shut up now.
I'll second that. Sounds like he has the right attitude for this group.
No, they're the Cardinals.
Signed (Cardinal Joe Morgan)
Ah... so that's what's doing it. 'fixed width' isn't so fixed when the 'é' character is included.
Yet practically all weren't going to get elected by the BBWAA anyway.
Between the time they instituted the 5-yr waiting rule
and the time they added the 5% elimination rule,
Ralph Kiner is the only candidate that the BBWAA elected
that would have been snuffed under the 5% rule.
Kiner's voting history.
Year Election Votes Pct
1960 BBWAA 3 1.12
1962 BBWAA 5 3.13
1964 BBWAA 31 15.42
1966 BBWAA 74 24.50
1967 BBWAA 124 42.47
1968 BBWAA 118 41.70
1969 BBWAA 137 40.29
1970 BBWAA 167 55.67
1971 BBWAA 212 58.89
1972 BBWAA 235 59.34
1973 BBWAA 235 61.84
1974 BBWAA 215 58.90
1975 BBWAA 273 75.41
If it was modified to be like 5 years under 5% then it would be clear that the guy had no initial support and wasn't going to get any.
You have the BBWAAA, most of whose members fear trigonometry, much less algebra.
Yet they are devising percentage plans for maintaining eligibility.
It's like asking your plumber to suggest a book on philosophy.
Sure, on occasion you'll find a guy who has some great suggestions, but for the most part, not so much.
but there is only a nano-second to stop that post once the "submit" button has been pushed...
For example: Richie Ashburn
Year Election Votes Pct
1968 BBWAA 6 2.12
1969 BBWAA 10 2.94
1970 BBWAA 11 3.67
1971 BBWAA 10 2.78
1972 BBWAA 11 2.78
1973 BBWAA 25 6.58
1974 BBWAA 56 15.34
1975 BBWAA 76 20.99
1976 BBWAA 85 21.91
1977 BBWAA 139 36.29
1978 BBWAA 158 41.69
1979 BBWAA 130 30.09
1980 BBWAA 134 34.81
1981 BBWAA 142 35.41
1982 BBWAA 126 30.36
He failed under my 5 yrs under 5% proposal but still got to 42% eventually.
Grich and Whitaker never did that. This proves (statistically) that Ashburn was the better player
Signed (Baseball Writer)
Where are the vote totals not lining up? They're in straight lines in both Firefox and IE for me...
In my IE, the fixed-width 'é' character is a couple of pixels thinner. Two of them makes his whole line of numbers about a third of a character off.
Testing:
eeeeeééééé
I wouldn't mind dropping the accents. Its nice to have, but they aren't universal (bb-ref doesn't have them).
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