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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Sunday, December 21, 20082009 BBTF Hall of Fame BallotIMPORTANT: Please read: This election should follow BBWAA rules, not Hall of Merit rules. However, we hope to see only players that each voter feels belong on their ballots - if you don’t feel he really is a HOFer, then please refrain from posting that player’s name (examples of whom I am referring to are Mookie Wilson, Scott Broscius, Buddy Biancalana - players who were well liked or were underdogs, but have no creditable HOF resume). Leaving 1st-year candidates off your ballot is also frowned upon. IOW, we would like to see an absence of some of the silliness that permeates Hall of Fame voting by the writers. The election will end next Sunday (8 PM EST). Results will be posted at the same time. Here are some of the rules by the BBWAA that pertain to our electorate: 3. Eligible Candidates — Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements: A. A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning twenty (20) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election. 4. Method of Election A. BBWAA Screening Committee — A Screening Committee consisting of baseball writers will be appointed by the BBWAA. This Screening Committee shall consist of six members, with two members to be elected at each Annual Meeting for a three-year term. The duty of the Screening Committee shall be to prepare a ballot listing in alphabetical order eligible candidates who (1) received a vote on a minimum of five percent (5%) of the ballots cast in the preceding election or (2) are eligible for the first time and are nominated by any two of the six members of the BBWAA Screening Committee. 5. Voting — Voting shall be based upon the player’s record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played. The eligible candidates are: Harold Baines, Jay Bell*, Bert Blyleven, David Cone*, Andre Dawson, Ron Gant*, Mark Grace*, Rickey Henderson*, Tommy John**, Don Mattingly, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Jesse Orosco*, Dave Parker, Dan Plesac*, Tim Raines, Jim Rice**, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell, Greg Vaughn*, Mo Vaughn* and Matt Williams*. + Write-ins are allowed, but won’t be included with the official tally. * 1st-year candidates. ** Last year of eligibility. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy
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Henderson
McGwire
Murphy
Raines
Trammell
No, HOF voters are not allowed to write in anyone. Any vote for a player who was determined as an eligible player for the election by the BBWAA screening committee is ignored--even for players who are otherwise eligible.
At present, there is no recourse for a player who is dropped for receiving less than 5%. It would require either a modification to the BBWAA procedures (very unlikely) or a revision to the veteran's committee (unlikely, but possible). But as it stands now, a player like Lou Whitaker cannot be reconsidered for the HOF.
Ack, there's a "not" missing from there somewhere. Apologies for the crappy sentence construction. Let's make it simpler:
Any write-in vote is ignored.
Raines
McGwire
Trammell
Blyleven
Parker
They do have to wait until their "class" graduates from the BBWAA ballot, so they have to be retired for 21 years before the VC considers them. So the first-time VC candidates in their next election in 2010 will include retirees from 1988-89: one-and-done Ted Simmons, Darrell Evans and Buddy Bell; later 5-percenters Graig Nettles and Ron Guidry; and 15-year men Dave Concepcion and Tommy John.
No, he's a better candidate than Don Drysdale, Dennis Eckersley and several other qualified HoF pitchers.
..had better include Bobby Grich. Actually I wouldn't mind a Santo up/down vote at this point.
Rickey Henderson
Bert Blyleven
Mark McGwire
Tim Raines
Alan Trammell
Plus write-in (though uncounted)
Dwight Evans
Ted Simmons
Darrell Evans
Lou Whitaker
VC
Ron Santo
Bobby Grich
Baines
Blyleven
Cone
Dawson
Henderson
John
McGwire
Parker
Raines
Trammell
In rank order:
Rickey Henderson
Alan Trammell
Bert Blyleven
Tim Raines
Mark McGwire
Tommy John
Andre Dawson
David Cone
Steroids are weighted, but do not absolutely disqualify a player. I think w/o PEDs McGwire's effective career length is much shorter. I could be convinced otherwise, but I am disapointed that principle effect of the Mitchell Report seems to have been to close a chapter on an era without a resolution about causes, effects, duration, extentent, etc.
I am torn about Blyleven. What he did on the field, even discounting the ERA+ et cetera because of the disconnect with wins, is well beyond the standards of the Hall. But I have a real problem with quitting on the Pirates in '80. I have often opined that Gary Sheffield stating that he intentionally committed errors (whether he actually committed them or not) was more heinous than steroids. PEDs are a questionable tactic trying to win; Sheffield's statement was an admission he didn't try. Even if false, the statement itself calls into question the fundamental concept of sports: I'll do my best to try to win. Period. I see Blyleven's act in a similar vein. It isn't an absolute disqualifier, but comes close so I'll stew on it for another year.
1. Rickey Henderson
2. Tim Raines
3. Bert Blyleven
4. Alan Trammell
5. Mark McGwire
6. Tommy John
The top five, for me, are no-doubt about it Hall of Famers - but not inner circle types, with the exception of Rickey - and they slot in well above the mediocre electees, but below the Ruths and Schmidt`s.
Tommy John for me was a hard choice to make as he is better than Don Sutton (HoF) and Jim Kaat, but only barely; he`s a hair worse than Roberts. John was good to very good for a long time, but never had a peak that screams Hall of Fame - the exact opposite of Koufax. He fits in nicely with career value guys like Sutton, Roberts, Grimes, and Wynn, so he makes my ballot
Originally I had Dawson on my ballot, but a 119 OPS+ from a guy with a bad OB% and who played only 1000 games at center doesn`t quite cut it for me. He`s on my bubble and I could be convinced to vote for him next year yet.
Write in votes for Simmons and Whittaker...and Grich if he`s eligible for such a thing.
1. Henderson
2. Blyleven
3. Raines
4. McGwire
5. Trammell
6. Cone
7. Mattingly
8. Parker
9. Murphy
10. Dawson
Bert Blyleven
Tommy John
Andre Dawson
Rickey Henderson
Tim Raines
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Dave Parker
Mark McGwire
McGwire
Blyleven
Raines
Trammell
Bert Blyleven,
Andre Dawson,
Rickey Henderson,
Tommy John,
Dale Murphy,
Dave Parker,
Tim Raines,
Lee Smith,
Alan Trammell
Bert Blyleven,
Andre Dawson,
Rickey Henderson,
Tommy John,
Dale Murphy,
Dave Parker,
Tim Raines,
Lee Smith,
Alan Trammell
Bert Blyleven
Tim Raines
Mark McGwire
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Raines
Henderson
Trammell
Dawson
Henderson
John
McGwire
Morris
Murphy
Raines
Rice
Trammell
Henderson
McGwire
Raines
Trammell
Murphy
Parker is close -- maybe simialr to Murphy in being right on the cusp? -- but whereas Murphy seems to have been a good citizen of MLB, Parker's troubles were of his own making. In close calls, I'll give a little weight to that; Murphy was close (and at a tough position, CF, with fewer HOF'rs than Parker's), and Parker was close too but it's his own durn fault he blew it.
Blyleven
Raines
Trammell
McGwire
Cone
Henderson
McGwire
Raines
Trammell
Not 100 percent on Cone, but he squeaked onto my ballot.
Rickey Henderson
Tim Raines
Bert Blyleven
Mark McGwire
Alan Trammell
Andre Dawson
Tommy John
Dale Murphy
Jim Rice
David Cone
No room at the inn for:
Dave Parker
Don Mattingly
Lee Smith
Blyleven
Raines
McGwire
Trammell
(if I were writing in, put Whitaker, Clark, Hernandez, Stieb and Dwight Evans here)
Dawson
Murphy
Cone
Smith
John
While only the top half makes my Personal Hall, none of them would look out of place in Cooperstown.
Blyleven
Henderson
McGwire
Raines
Trammell
Mark McGwire
Tim Raines
Bert Blyleven
Andre Dawson
Jim Rice
Dale Murphy
Dave Parker
Alan Trammell
Blyleven
Dawson
Henderson
Mattingly
McGwire
Murphy
Parker
Raines
Rice
Trammell
Dawson
Henderson
McGwire
Morris
Raines
Rice
Smith
Trammell
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