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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Monday, December 30, 20132014 BBTF Hall of Fame Ballot Results119 ballots cast Player Ballots Percentage Seven players elected in 2014. Alan Trammell, Craig Biggio, Tim Raines, Mark McGwire and Curt Schilling have all been elected in previous BBTF mock elections. |
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1. DL from MN Posted: December 30, 2013 at 04:16 PM (#4626652)Edit: I also missed flournoy and BrianBrianson. I'll go find those.
I'm putting this into an email to DL now.
If you have any email address for me, rawagman, ronw, or Joey Numbaz, try it; we should be able to rattle it around from there.
Probably because of the people using "strategic voting".
I suppose I would take Biggio's 1989-2001 over Walker's. But it's close. And I would absolutely take Walker's 'decline' over Biggio's long twilight struggle to remain above replacement level.
If that's the case then we're really not getting a true consensus nor does it seem logical because I'm pretty sure our votes don't count.
Well, Biggio squeaked onto my ballot while Walker was in a logjam just off my ballot.
I simply plugged in the votes as my system generated them, and spots 6-15 were very close in my system.
If I had unlimited ballot space Walker would have been included.
Would people be interested in counting? That's the hard part.
I was surprised by the lack of support for Walker as well, but my impression is that some people hesitate to vote for a guy for whom a massive defensive number is important to his case, just because they don't trust defensive numbers. I think that's wrong, because it's a bias in favor of mediocre defenders, but that's my guess on why Walker hasn't done that well in these types of votes. OTOH he was elected to the HOM pretty quickly.
Mine would suck. I voted for Walker.
1)Yay, we got a whole lot more players across the finish line than the writers seem capable of doing and, no, we didn't water down the standards in the process. These are exceptionally good players we're electing.
2)Even on our polls it looks like we went down from 8 elected last year to 7 this year, testament to how much quality is on the ballot to choose from.
3)Bad news is this - we like to think the BBWAA is clearing out the logjam, but they're not really. The logjam is primarily in the candidates on the ballot before this year. The only thing they cleared out was basically the obvious candidates from this year with the Big Three. Of previous year holdovers all they've done is possibly get Biggio in and that's it - and that's the group they need to start clearing out.
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