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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Thursday, January 07, 20212021 Hall of Merit Election Results: Lofton, Santana & KentCongratulations to our newest members of the Hall of Merit: Kenny Lofton, Johan Santana and Jeff Kent RK LY Player PTS Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 5 Kenny Lofton 397 21 7 2 2 2 3 2 1 1 1 2 6 Johan Santana 323 22 2 2 4 1 1 1 4 1 4 1 1 3 8 Jeff Kent 302 18 3 3 2 3 2 2 1 1 1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 10 Bobby Abreu 256 16 1 2 1 2 2 4 2 2 5 7 Sammy Sosa 237 17 2 1 1 1 3 1 1 2 2 3 6 18 Andy Pettitte 223 18 2 1 1 3 2 1 1 3 3 1 7T 11 Buddy Bell 211 13 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 1 7T 9 Lance Berkman 211 13 1 3 1 3 1 2 1 1 9 12 Wally Schang 207 12 1 1 3 2 1 2 1 1 10 13 Bobby Bonds 179 14 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11 14 Sal Bando 175 12 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 12 15 Vic Willis 146 11 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 13 17 Ben Taylor 144 11 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 14 24 Thurman Munson 143 11 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 3 15 19 Tommy John 141 10 1 1 1 2 2 1 2 16 22 Urban Shocker 137 10 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 17 16 Bob Johnson 134 11 1 2 2 2 1 1 2 18 23 Phil Rizzuto 133 10 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 19 n/a Tim Hudson 127 10 2 1 1 1 1 1 3 20 21 Jorge Posada 92 6 1 1 1 1 1 1 21 25 Jason Giambi 81 5 1 1 1 2 22 29 Bert Campaneris 74 7 1 1 1 3 1 23 20 Don Newcombe 74 6 1 1 2 1 1 24 39T Joe Tinker 69 6 1 1 1 1 1 1 25 30 Tommy Leach 68 5 1 1 1 2 26 26 Tommy Bridges 66 4 1 1 1 1 27 31 Roy Oswalt 59 6 1 1 2 1 1 28 33 Tommy Bond 55 3 2 1 29 32 Dizzy Dean 54 3 1 1 1 30 28 Kevin Appier 51 4 1 2 1 31T n/a Mark Buehrle 44 3 1 1 1 31T 36T Fred McGriff 44 3 1 2 33 44T Luke Easter 40 2 1 1 34 35 Art Fletcher 39 3 1 1 1 35 36T Gavy Cravath 37 4 1 1 1 1 36 27 Hugh Duffy 37 2 1 1 37 62 Bob Elliott 36 3 2 1 38 42 Hilton Smith 36 2 1 1 39 41 Bus Clarkson 35 2 1 1 40 70T Bernie Williams 34 3 2 1 41 39T Bucky Walters 33 4 1 1 2 42 51 Jim McCormick 33 2 1 1 43 70T Frank Chance 32 3 1 1 1 44 43 Brian Giles 29 3 1 1 1 45 47 Mickey Welch 28 3 1 1 1 46 34 Vern Stephens 27 2 1 1 47T 49 Babe Adams 26 2 1 1 47T 53T Dolf Luque 26 2 1 1 49 50 Luis Aparicio 25 2 1 1 50T 74T Hurley McNair 23 2 1 1 50T 52 Tony Perez 23 2 1 1 50T 48 Bobby Veach 23 2 1 1 53T 55 Lou Brock 23 1 1 53T -- Mike Tiernan 23 1 1 55T 38 Eddie Cicotte 21 2 1 1 55T 60T Tony Mullane 21 2 1 1 57 -- Jack Quinn 20 2 1 1 58 80T Jim Sundberg 19 2 1 1 59 74T Chuck Finley 16 2 1 1 60 -- Charlie Smith 16 1 1 61 57T Elston Howard 15 1 1 62T 63T Luis Gonzalez 14 1 1 62T 46 Ernie Lombardi 14 1 1 62T 83T Kirby Puckett 14 1 1 62T -- George Uhle 14 1 1 66 -- Gene Tenace 13 2 1 1 67 63T Lee Smith 13 1 1 68T -- Willie Davis 12 1 1 68T -- Mark Langston 12 1 1 68T 60T Mickey Lolich 12 1 1 68T 70T Lance Parrish 12 1 1 68T 67T Darryl Strawberry 12 1 1 68T 67T Billy Wagner 12 1 1 74T 63T Kiki Cuyler 11 1 1 74T 63T Al Rosen 11 1 1 74T 74T Jim Whitney 11 1 1 77T 86T Orel Hershiser 10 1 1 77T n/a Torii Hunter 10 1 1 77T 44T Addie Joss 10 1 1 77T -- Pie Traynor 10 1 1 77T 83T Ned Williamson 10 1 1 82T -- Norm Cash 9 1 1 82T 83T Tommy Henrich 9 1 1 82T 80T Frank Tanana 9 1 1 85T -- Fred Dunlap 8 1 1 85T 74T Johnny Evers 8 1 1 85T -- Toby Harrah 8 1 1 85T 56 Dale Murphy 8 1 1 85T -- Roy White 8 1 1 90T -- Cesar Cedeno 7 1 1 90T -- Jim Gilliam 7 1 1 90T 53T Dwight Gooden 7 1 1 93T -- Dave Concepcion 6 1 1 93T 86T John Olerud 6 1 1 93T -- George Van Haltren 6 1 1 Dropped Out: Dave Bancroft(70T), Charlie Buffinton(57T), Nomar Carciaparra(59), Ron Guidry(74T), Harry Hooper(74T), Cliff Lee(80T), Javier Vazquez(67T), Robin Ventura(86T). Ballots Cast: 28 |
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1. DL from MN Posted: January 07, 2021 at 09:55 PM (#5998145)Abreu is our new top returning player edging ahead of Sosa. I concur with that evaluation.
Hudson debuts in the backlog and Buehrle in the deep backlog.
But thank you.
In the last two elections Andruw, Lofton, & Santana have elected. This really highlights the difference between the Hall of Fame (where all three were one and done) and the Hall of Merit.
2022 new eligible candidates
Alex Rodriguez
David Ortiz
Mark Teixeira
Jimmy Rollins
Carl Crawford
Jake Peavy
Coco Crisp
Justin Morneau
Prince Fielder
Joe Nathan
In addition to A-Rod and Ortiz, Teixeira might also get some votes. Most likely, A-Rod will be elected along with 3 from the backlog, unless half the electorate boycotts A-Rod . . .
Well, two of them were one and done. Andruw has a good chance of making it.
The inductees clearly meet the standards we have established. Santana is similar to pitchers Saberhagen, Cone and Stieb. Jeff Kent compares well to Willie Randolph at the bottom of the second basemen but above the borderline. I have Lofton as borderline mainly because I haven't inducted nearly as many centerfielders but he meets the standards of CF we have elected (Averill, Oms, Doby, Dawson, Wynn). I will probably induct him PHoM sooner or later.
95 different names on 28 ballots - comparing players historically is tough!
These probably qualify as "frontlog" players. They debuted ahead of the historical backlog but not high enough to beat out the other new players.
1B: Taylor, Olerud, Perez, McGriff, Cash, Giambi, Teixeira.
3B: Bell, Bando, Ventura, Cey, Harrah, Elliott, Wright.
Overall, we are still quite a disagreeable bunch (not that that's a bad thing). Only Santana and and Lofton made 75% of ballots. I know I've suggested in the past that ballots get expanded to help sort through some of that. The guys in the top 10 that are off my current ballot would likely place on a 20 or 25 man ballot and I assume that's true for others. That might help differentiate some of these close calls. That said, I think we have a great system and group of electors; just wanted to offer a potential tweak.
HoM Elections - 2021
2022 is showing as an elect 4, we should have A Rod + 3 others.
Bell, Schang, Bonds are all close enough they could gain one of those spots without much change next year.
Hurley McNair could vault if we get more data comfort in Eric's MLEs.
Voter Consensus Score
kwarren 11.34
Rob Wood 12.47
Qufini 12.84
kcgard2 13.61
JoeD 13.68
Mike Webber 14.08
Al Peterson 14.24
cookiedabookie 14.27
bachslunch 14.79
Howie Menckel 14.97
Bleed the Freak 15.34
Esteban Rivera 15.49
Honorable Ardo 15.54
Chris Cobb 15.55
Brent 15.76
Devin 17.28
progrockfan 17.44
Dr. Chaleeko 17.86
Carl Goetz 18.14
rwargo 18.39
Jaack 18.82
DL from MN 19.45
Kiko Sakata 19.60
John Murphy 20.25
Michael Binkley 21.03
Patrick W 22.02
Yardape 24.31
bjhanke 27.11
C: Elston Howard
1B: John Olerud
2B: Johnny Evers
SS: Dave Concepion
3B: Pie Traynor
LF: Lou Brock
CF: Kirby Puckett
RF: Darryl Strawberry
Bench: Lance Parrish, Fred Dunlap, Al Rosen, Ned Williamson, Dale Murphy, George Van Haltren, Cesar Cedeno
Rotation:
Dwight Gooden
Mickey Lolich
Addie Joss
George Uhle
Orel Hershisher
Bullpen: Lee Smith, Billy Wagner, Mark Langston, Frank Tanana, Jim Whitney
This team would win a lot of games. You have to be *really good* even to be considered by the Hall of Merit.
Batters:
Alex Rodriguez
David Ortiz
David Wright*
Mark Teixeira
Jimmy Rollins
Carl Crawford
Coco Crisp
Justin Morneau
Marlon Byrd
Prince Fielder
A.J. Pierzynski
Michael Bourn
Juan Uribe
Alexei Ramirez
All of these players had > 20 WAR. Sorry, Ryan Howard.
Pitchers:
Jake Peavy
Joe Nathan
Jonathan Papelbon
Scott Kazmir
Tim Lincecum
John Danks
And, sadly, Jose Fernandez, who had 13 WAR in just 76 starts and 471 innings pitched.
*Wright qualifies under the Token Appearances rule, with his last significant playing time in 2016 and only two games in 2018. I'd like the electorate's help in identifying who else might be eligible that way.
Going ahead a couple of years
2023: Brandon Phillips, Dustin Pedroia, Troy Tulowitzki, Ervin Santana
2024: Ichiro Suzuki
Pedroia is still under contract and Santana is in the minors, so maybe they play in 2021.
that is as perfectly versatile a 15-man hitting roster as one could ask for.
100 G minimum per position
C - EHoward 1138, Parrish 1818
1B - Olerud 2053, Cedeno 258, DMurphy 209
2B - Evers 1735, Dunlap 163, Concepcion 130
SS - Concepcion 2178, Williamson 450
3B - Traynor 1863, Rosen 932, Williamson 716, Concepcion 120
LF - Brock 2161, EHoward 227, Cedeno 139, DMurphy 101
CF - Puckett 1432, Cedeno 1457, DMurphy 1041, Brock 115
RF - Strawberry 1308, DMurphy 749, Puckett 276, Brock 242, Cedeno 142
OF - Van Haltren 1833 somewhere
I don't picture a lot of injuries in this "Iowa" setting, but Murphy has 85 G at C in a pinch - and there as others with G at SS too
Van Haltren with 93 G at P also can mop up for that 10-man staff as needed with his 96 ERA+
A treasure trove of info, thank you for sharing.
I expanded on your top % score never elected from a 40% top 15 ever to 30% and a top 58:
Win Shares 19th century centerfield darlings and a 300 game winner:
George Van Haltren 13x, Hugh Duffy 11x, Jimmy Ryan 11x, Mickey Welch 5x.
Guys who did well in early voting:
(N)Ed Williamson 2x, Mike Tiernan 1x, Tommy Leach 1x
Players achieving front log status since voting went annual, current forms of WAR were available:
Sammy Sosa 6x, Lance Berkman 2x, and 1x - Phil Rizzuto, Ben Taylor, Wally Schang, Buddy Bell, Andy Pettitte, Bobby Abreu
A record 6 players at > 30% in 2021, are these 6 inevitable HOMers, or will some go the way of the 1890s trio?
Rk Year Score Player
01 1913 51.1% H.Duffy
02 1908 48.7% H.Duffy
03 1931 48.3% G.VanHaltren
04 1898 47.1% E.Williamson
05 1914 44.7% H.Duffy
06 1907 44.4% H.Duffy
07 1930 43.6% G.VanHaltren
08 1932 43.5% G.VanHaltren
09 1912 43.1% H.Duffy
10 2014 42.6% S.Sosa
11 1910 42.3% H.Duffy
12 1910 41.3% J.Ryan
13 2017 40.9% S.Sosa
14 2015 40.6% S.Sosa
15 1909 40.4% J.Ryan
16 1911 39.7% H.Duffy
17 1913 38.8% J.Ryan
18 1929 38.7% G.VanHaltren
19 2021 38.1% B.Abreu
20 2012 37.8% P.Rizzuto
21 2013 37.7% S.Sosa
22 1912 37.5% J.Ryan
23 1909 37.5% H.Duffy
24 1915 36.5% H.Duffy
25 1930 36.2% J.Ryan
26 1933 36.0% G.VanHaltren
27 1909 35.4% M.Tiernan
28 2021 35.3% S.Sosa
29 1931 35.1% J.Ryan
30 1914 34.8% J.Ryan
31 1942 34.3% G.VanHaltren
32 1911 33.9% J.Ryan
33 1910 33.8% J.Ryan
34 1899 33.6% E.Williamson
35 1931 33.6% H.Duffy
36 2016 33.3% S.Sosa
37 1942 33.3% T.Leach
38 1928 33.3% G.VanHaltren
39 2021 33.2% A.Pettitte
40 1915 33.0% J.Ryan
41 1913 32.6% G.VanHaltren
42 1932 32.5% H.Duffy
43 1931 32.0% M.Welch
44 1968 31.6% G.VanHaltren
45 2021 31.4% B.Bell
46 2021 31.4% L.Berkman
47 1930 31.4% M.Welch
48 1929 31.3% J.Ryan
49 1929 31.3% M.Welch
50 1932 31.0% M.Welch
51 2021 30.8% W.Schang
52 1909 30.6% G.VanHaltren
53 1939 30.5% G.VanHaltren
54 2019 30.2% B.Taylor
55 1938 30.2% M.Welch
56 1927 30.1% G.VanHaltren
57 1926 30.1% G.VanHaltren
58 2020 30.0% L.Berkman
Most unfortunate vote, 1997, got Dwight Evans right as a newbie, but settled on Nellie Fox and Edd Roush, Dan Rosenheck WAR had been around for a couple of months, I don't think Sean Smith WAR was out yet, I think the only year with 2 inductees I have outside of a grey area HOF level.
Ardo, thanks for the Wright stuff. He is on the right side of my in/out line, the only question is whether the backlog ahead of him is too deep. I can, however, safely predict that he will slot in behind Bell who outstrips him at the hot corner.
Thank you!
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If any voters would like to contribute their pHOM, they can email me (krisgardner -at- twc -dot- com). I request that submissions be like the following:
Player (year of induction)
In: Wally Schang (1961), Ron Cey (1998), Bobby Bonds (2017)
Out: Hardy Richardson (1905), Charley Jones (1930), Kenny Lofton (2021)
I'd be interested to see the most common ins and outs for voters' pHOMs, if there are really any patterns.
As my name was mentioned, if I was voting today and I would have won a few more battles from 90-100 years ago I would probably not be as much of an outlier today.
I would be shocked if Santana and Kent, would not be in my phom and lofton probably would be a contender (I see him as a borderline hofer and since we increased the slots allowed if I kept up with a phom I see him as a possibility of making it.
Disappointed that Mickey Welch, Hugh Duffy And pie traynor are still are not in. They would kill my score as would Puckett whose defense is way underrated.
At least I won the George sisler fight.
Towards the end I was pretty close to the group on ranking current players the problem was I had some people I saw as major omissions. In off year elections my score usually went up.
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