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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Friday, September 09, 2011Most Meritorious Player: 1964 ResultsCongratulations to Willie Mays, who was 1964’s Most Meritorious Player by a substantial majority. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Pts Willie Mays 11 2 193 Dick Allen 2 6 3 2 177 Ron Santo 3 5 3 1 154 Dean Chance 1 5 2 1 2 2 152 Brooks Robinson 3 4 2 2 1 1 129 Frank Robinson 2 4 2 4 1 119 Mickey Mantle 2 2 1 1 2 1 84 Hank Aaron 1 1 2 1 3 1 74 Elston Howard 3 2 2 1 63 Don Drysdale 1 1 2 1 54 Jim Fregosi 1 1 2 1 1 53 Boog Powell 2 3 34 Sandy Koufax 1 1 2 30 Denis Menke 2 14 Tony Oliva 2 12 Ron Hansen 1 9 Bob Allison 1 8 Dick Radatz 1 6 Number of ballots cast: 13 Mays’ victory was never in doubt. The real excitement in this election came in the battle for second and third place, as Dick Allen overcame early support for Ron Santo to take second place. Santo even came close to falling into fourth place as Dean Chance, like Allen, steadily gathered support as more ballots were cast. |
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1. David Concepcion de la Desviacion Estandar (Dan R) Posted: September 09, 2011 at 11:47 AM (#3920075)Dick Allen had the highest numbers in Win Shares and WSAB and none of the various WAR and WARP systems that I use. Just thought that was interesting.
And, on yet another unrelated comment, Roberto Clemente is the highest player on my list (15th) who didn't receive a single top 10 vote.
Same here, except I had him at #11.
Boyer, OTOH, was a pretty bad choice considering there were so many great ones available. I tend to use my recollections of how players were thought of at the time in leavening my ballot a little bit, and even I only had Boyer #12. The BBWAA not only had Boyer on top, it had Callison and Bill White next, then Frank Robby and Torre and only then Mays, Allen and Santo. Brain death had already set in. If Allen or Santo had won the MVP award, it could have altered HoF voting later on--more likely in Santo's case than Allen's, I suppose. But plausible in both cases. But considering they were #8 and #9, it's a pipe dream. Wasn't gonna happen.
Still, I don't think baseball fans regarded this as a particularly terrible choice at the time. Skepticism of BBWAA selections had not really set in which means that the implied eval of Santo and Allen (they're no Brooksie and Boyer) was also accepted fairly readily.
It didn't necessarily go the other way, however, as Boyer, Callison, Ellie Howard, Bill White, Oliva and Torre, all of whom finished ahead of Chance, Santo and Allen, didn't gain much traction for the HoF as a result. If you wanted to make the HoF, it was better to be in the 2nd 10.
I suppose the anti-Moneyballers would look at this list and note Denis Menke and Ron Hansen and roll their eyes. Hansen in particular was a hell of a player for a few years. Ditto Fregosi, of course, though he's not nearly as far below the radar.
That was me I had Santo at 11
I basically work off of BBREF WAR except I move the baseline up from replacement level, that moved a couple of guys (barely) ahead of him from where WAR has him (7th)...
Before 1964, there were usually a handful of 3B who could really hit; after that, the glovemen became increasingly rare at 3B. Everyone wanted a big bat at the hot corner.
OPS+ 1954-63, 550 G at 3B
Rk Player OPS+ PA Age HR RBI1 Eddie Mathews 153 6526 22-31 350 973
2 Ken Boyer 120 5738 24-32 218 807
3 Eddie Yost 111 4570 27-35 84 356
4 Ron Santo 106 2403 20-23 74 309
5 Willie Jones 100 3469 28-35 85 405
6 Don Hoak 98 4939 26-35 89 498
7 Brooks Robinson 98 3765 18-26 65 374
8 Gene Freese 97 3185 21-29 102 370
9 Andy Carey 96 3081 22-30 60 341
10 Frank Malzone 95 4717 25-33 115 626
11 Jim Davenport 94 2962 24-29 54 276
12 Clete Boyer 82 2587 18-26 56 236
13 Bubba Phillips 78 3465 27-35 59 350
OPS+ 1964-73, 600 G at 3B
Rk Player OPS+ PA Age HR RBI1 Dick Allen 165 5744 22-31 287 887
2 Ron Santo 136 6576 24-33 263 981
3 Tony Perez 132 5219 22-31 210 814
4 Sal Bando 131 4185 22-29 128 531
5 Richie Hebner 131 2510 20-25 80 306
6 Jim Ray Hart 128 4189 22-31 170 576
7 Bill Melton 119 2834 22-27 118 402
8 Bob Bailey 113 5109 21-30 140 576
9 Brooks Robinson 113 6572 27-36 186 856
10 Graig Nettles 107 2935 22-28 105 333
11 Ken McMullen 106 4982 22-31 136 510
12 Doug Rader 104 3624 22-28 99 474
13 Joe Foy 104 2937 23-28 58 291
14 Ed Charles 102 2626 31-36 54 268
15 Paul Schaal 100 3923 21-30 54 299
16 Max Alvis 94 3271 26-32 89 303
17 Clete Boyer 90 3778 27-34 106 418
18 Bob Aspromonte 87 3570 26-33 40 341
19 Don Wert 86 4063 25-32 70 341
20 Aurelio Rodriguez 82 3521 19-25 65 309
Name PTS Max possible MMP Shares
Willie Mays 210 210 1.00
Sandy Koufax 194 210 0.92
Juan Marichal 174 210 0.83
Ron Santo 140 210 0.67
Zoilo Versalles 137 210 0.65
Billy Williams 122 210 0.58
Hank Aaron 106 210 0.50
Jimmy Winn 88 210 0.42
Tony Oliva 70 210 0.33
Sam McDowell 57 210 0.27
Dick Allen 40 210 0.19
Jim Maloney 39 210 0.19
Jim Bunning 37 210 0.18
Willie McCovey 17 210 0.08
Don Buford 13 210 0.06
Bob Gibson 8 210 0.04
Stu Miller 6 210 0.03
Carl Yastrzemski 6 210 0.03
Mel Stottlemyre 6 210 0.03
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