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Hall of Merit— A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best
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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 21, 2007 at 08:01 PM (#2586439)Ripken 37-35-34 rate 23.6
Gwynn 39-35-30 rate 26.9
But was Gwynn's 1997 (39) really better than Cal's 1984 (37). Was Gwynn's 1997 really better than Gwynn's 1984 (35)? Was Cal's '84 better than Gwynn's? So many questions. But I don't see any doubt that '84 was Ripken's best year.
And I don't think you can make the case that Gwynn was better than Cal, but they are closer than I remembered.
karlmagnus is on board, but I don't know if yest will get in...
Odds are yest will go with the guy with the higher BA. However, yest does surprise me occasionally.
What about 1991?
How low are the 19885-90 dips?
Do minor hurts explain most of the variability in fielder ratings, for players without major hurts or position changes?
How low are the 19885-90 dips?
Do minor hurts explain most of the variability in fielder ratings, for players without major hurts or position changes?
Not sure what you mean. I'm not aware of any evidence that his fielding declined from 1985-1990. The point is simply that he was just as good in 91 as he was in 83-84.
Dial has Ripken as being an outstanding fielder every year he played SS except 1987, when he was merely above average. I suppose it does call the numbers into question a bit that he gets a +11 the year before he was moved to 3B.
I dunno...IIRC, he was one of the best 3B in the league after he moved, so it's certainly possible that he was still an above average SS before the move.
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