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Hall of Merit— A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best
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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: May 06, 2007 at 06:06 PM (#2355958)Andre Dawson says hello, too.
142,150,149,151,120,156 (then) 105,88,98,103
like I said about Robbie Alomar, think Wily Coyote holding an anvil
My surname will never be inducted. My first name won't be inducted until Mr. Gwynn.
Yeah, well, the waiting line for Hall of Fame/Merit Chaleks isn't exactly filling up.
1) Are those quotes park-adjusted?
2) About 50-60 "years" ago there was another person who deluged us with wonderful quotes about Wes Ferrell. I think it might have hurt Ferrell's candidacy, at least for a while. While we love baseball information, a "hard sell" campaign might turn off some voters.
Postscript: that other person joined the electorate and was a very interesting contributor for a number of elections. Consider doing that yourself if you have the inclination. The more the merrier.
200 is usually a slam dunk for Cooperstown
1. Cobb 418
2. Mays 411
3. Speaker 376
4. Mantle 368
5. DiMaggio 328
6. Snider 249
7. Puckett 211--this is called the Reputation Monitor, with all the caveats
Lots of 175-199 guys make the HoF too, unless they don't (all generalizations moot for 19C and the modern era)
8. Dawson 196--this list is a few years old, he might slide based on failure to make HoF yet
9. Hamilton 195
10. Browning 187
11. Hines 186
12. Carey 176
13. Wilson 176
14. Gore 175
Most 150-175 guys don't make it unless they do and, well, more CFers do than other positions
15. Doby 173
16. Duffy 170
17. Murphy 168
18. Averill 168--Murphy by a fraction
19. Ashburn 162
20. Berger 155
21. Lynn 154
A sampling of <150 guys: Bad HoFers Combs 120 and L. Waner 91, candidates Pinson 148 and Wynn 133 and GVH 136 and Ryan 126, non-candidates Cedeno 144 and Eric Davis 140 and Willie Davis 111, and there are bunches of guys in and amongst and between there.
Bottom line: All bets are off for the modern era--players active after 1970. Murphy is in an excellent position except that there's this god-awful bias against his kind. He's not gonna make Cooperstown, at least not via the BBWAA. He's a clear candidate in the HoM but not better than Dawson IMO and border-borderline to boot.
(I don't ballot based on RM, just create consideration sets.)
Wow OCF's first name is Matsuzaka! That's wild.
Nice to meet you, Kent.
Yeah, the group of Bottenfield, Mercker, Tekulve, and Hrbek seems unlikely to produce any HoMers. But Kenton Lloyd Boyer ...
What about Old Hoss Radbourn? ;-)
by the way, you can look at
http://hamrick.com/names/
to find a graphic look at surname distribution in the USA at various points in history
unique surnames (like Eric's) will not show up tho
Come on there are at least fifty Chaleks in the U.S., this is an outrage!
Well, but at least I'm not named Matsuzaka Chalek....
1980 28
1981 20
1982 32
1983 32
1984 33
1985 31
1986 22
1987 29
ave. 28.4
His record is a bit less impressive if you use WS above bench, or above average.
Still, his preak/prime is very nice.
I was working on Harold Traynor, but we haven't elected him yet, and wondering whether Albert Spalding is little used, but Jared Burton doesn't yet look like a good candidate.
If anyone here is named Tram Tickets, feel free to make something of Tristram Speaker and Alan Trammell.
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Oh, yes, Dale Murphy, a fine prime. If he could catch flies with Dwayne he would be "n-b".
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