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Hall of Merit— A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best
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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: August 19, 2007 at 04:34 PM (#2491399)1987 10-6
1988 14-12
1989 15-11
1990 15-10
1991 16-9
1992 16-9
1993 13-12
1994 13-7
1995 14-7
Martinez: 231-203, "big years" score of 3.
Warneke: 184-128, "big years" score of 38.
Derringer: 216-189, "big year" score of 17.
Warneke is a different type, with a shorter career and a higher peak. For comparisons, look also at
Jack Morris: 226-199, "big years" score of 9.
Larry Jackson: 200-162, "big years" score of 6.
Of course, I was in college, and there is much I don't remember from those days.
I've told this story before, but I'll add it here. In college winter 1992-93 we were watching the 2 a.m. SportsCenter in the lounge of the dorm (no cable in the rooms back then) when the report came across that Greg Maddux took less money to sign with the Braves than the Yankees because he, 'wanted to play for a winner'. Inebriated and infuriated I broke a chair against the wall, thinking the Yankees were relegated to another few years of being terrible.
Don't forget Bernie Williams was a disappointment thus far, and there wasn't a lot of hope on the horizon.
The Yankees settled for Jimmy Key. Key was awesome in 1993, the Yankees were in the race (I believe there were within a game or two going into an early August series with the Blue Jays, where they got crushed).
Flash to Game 6 of the 1996 World Series, and Jimmy Key beats Greg Maddux to win it all. Talk about poetic justice. The greatest day of my life so far.
"Jimmy Key, what's he like... 45? I could hit him!"
It was awesome because the Yankees won, so were still alive (we went into the game tied with Baltimore still), until Toronto's game finished like 1/2 hour later. So while we were leaving we heckled those O's fans, with things like, "we're still in the race", "nice to be in a pennant race," "it's all over", etc. It was a lot of fun.
Pretty sure Scott Kamieniecki pitched, since he pitched approximately 99 44/100% of the Yankee games I went to in the early 90s.
You mean you missed the whole Scott Sanderson Era? What a shame.
He's one of my borders for the Hall of Fame. A good pitcher who shouldn't go in the Hall of Fame, and if a pitcher is not as good as him, that ends the discussion.
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