User Comments, Suggestions, or Complaints | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Advertising
Page rendered in 0.6243 seconds
59 querie(s) executed
You are here > Home > Hall of Merit > Discussion
| ||||||||
Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Thursday, December 17, 2020Mock Hall of Fame Ballot 2021 ResultsBBTF would elect Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Scott Rolen, Curt Schilling, Todd Helton and Manny Ramirez to the Hall of Fame. Gary Sheffield misses by one vote. Player Name Votes Percent Barry Bonds 51 98.1% Roger Clemens 50 96.2% Scott Rolen 49 94.2% Curt Schilling 49 94.2% Todd Helton 41 78.8% Manny Ramirez 39 75.0% -------------------------------------------- Gary Sheffield 38 73.1% Sammy Sosa 32 61.5% Andruw Jones 28 53.8% Jeff Kent 24 46.2% Andy Pettitte 17 32.7% Bobby Abreu 11 21.2% Tim Hudson 11 21.2% Mark Buehrle 9 17.3% Billy Wagner 4 7.7% ----------------------------------- Omar Vizquel 2 3.8% AJ Burnett 0 0.0% Michael Cuddyer 0 0.0% Dan Haren 0 0.0% LaTroy Hawkins 0 0.0% Torii Hunter 0 0.0% Aramis Ramirez 0 0.0% Nick Swisher 0 0.0% Shane Victorino 0 0.0% Barry Zito 0 0.0% |
BookmarksYou must be logged in to view your Bookmarks. Hot TopicsReranking First Basemen: Discussion Thread
(34 - 9:52am, May 31) Last: DL from MN 2024 Hall of Merit Ballot Discussion (118 - 4:10pm, May 30) Last: Kiko Sakata Reranking Shortstops Ballot (10 - 5:16pm, May 25) Last: Chris Cobb Cal Ripken, Jr. (15 - 12:42am, May 18) Last: The Honorable Ardo New Eligibles Year by Year (996 - 12:23pm, May 12) Last: cookiedabookie Reranking Shortstops: Discussion Thread (67 - 6:46pm, May 07) Last: cookiedabookie Reranking Centerfielders: Results (20 - 10:31am, Apr 28) Last: cookiedabookie Reranking Center Fielders Ballot (20 - 9:30am, Apr 06) Last: DL from MN Ranking Center Fielders in the Hall of Merit - Discussion Thread (77 - 5:45pm, Apr 05) Last: Esteban Rivera Reranking Right Fielders: Results (34 - 2:55am, Mar 30) Last: bjhanke 2023 Hall of Merit Ballot Discussion (376 - 10:42am, Mar 07) Last: Dr. Chaleeko Reranking Right Fielders: Ballot (21 - 5:20pm, Mar 01) Last: DL from MN Ranking Right Fielders in the Hall of Merit - Discussion thread (71 - 9:47pm, Feb 28) Last: Guapo Dobie Moore (239 - 10:40am, Feb 11) Last: Mike Webber Ranking Left Fielders in the Hall of Merit - Discussion thread (96 - 12:21pm, Feb 08) Last: DL from MN |
|||||||
About Baseball Think Factory | Write for Us | Copyright © 1996-2021 Baseball Think Factory
User Comments, Suggestions, or Complaints | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Advertising
|
| Page rendered in 0.6243 seconds |
Reader Comments and Retorts
Go to end of page
Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.
1. DL from MN Posted: December 17, 2020 at 01:47 PM (#5994672)This is the first time we have elected Todd Helton.
6 players represents a new low for number of players elected by us, we have elected 7+ in the past.
Jaffe had a good write-up on Jones and introduced a new defensive metric that says he wasn’t anywhere near as elite as the stats we use say he was. Who knows what’s right but I’ve always been very suspicious of defensive stats for outfielders
Jeff Kent finished 10th but we elected 6 which means he is fighting amongst Jones, Sosa, Pettite, etc for that final ballot slot.
I was surprised to see Helton leapfrog over Sheffield.
Interestingly, the Hall of Merit elected Andruw Jones last year. The Hall of Merit has elected the top 7 vote-getters above plus Jones and has mostly ignored everyone from Wagner down. Which leaves six interesting HOM candidates in the middle of the ballot. And since HOM ballots require folks to list 15 names, that opens up a lot of opportunities for really old (Hugh Duffy, George Van Haltren) and really idiosyncratic candidates (Vern Stephens, Roy Oswalt) to show up on HOM ballots this year - and probably the next few going forward. Fun opportunity to get involved in that if you're so inclined!
Perhaps more people see Helton as a "complete" player. Defensive metrics are pretty damning for Sheffield, though I still see him as a HOF. It is interesting in light of all the discussion we had on whether Jones is worthy coming down to his defensive metrics. Should we put so much faith in Sheffield's numbers that he's penalized for HOF discussion? I honestly don't know, but I think it's interesting when looking at them on B-R he's terrible in the OF every season except for 2000 and 2002 when Rtot has him as just a bit below average, then in 2003 for Rtot/DRS he has a very strange pattern: 3/-2, -10/-9, -7/-14, 3/-1 but that was just 165 innings. So after six seasons of being well below average, at 31 years of age, he's average twice in three seasons by Rtot, and again the next year by both Rtot and DRS at 34 years old. I don't know if there's anything to be made of that, but it does seem odd.
if it helps any, BBTF can't knock Wagner off subsequent BBTF ballot lists - only BBWAA can
You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.
<< Back to main