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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Tuesday, May 31, 2022Most Meritorious Player: 1900 DiscussionNo World Series yet so no postseason consideration. Roughly 140 game schedule with only 8 teams so replacement level is high and compiled stats will be low. Player BBR WAR Honus Wagner 6.5 Elmer Flick 5.9 John McGraw 5.3 Jesse Burkett 5.3 Kip Selbach 5.2 Jake Beckley 4.3 Napoleon Lajoie 4.2 Billy Hamilton 4.2 George Davis 4.1 Willie Keeler 3.7 Joe Kelley 3.5 George Van Haltren 3.4 Bill Dahlen 3.2 Jimmy Barrett 3.1 Jimmy Collins 3.1 Roy Thomas 3.0 Ed Delahanty 2.9 Dan McGann 2.9 Claude Ritchey 2.8 Ed McFarland 2.3 Grant Johnson 3 recorded games, 118 OPS+ Frank Grant 4 recorded games, 61 OPS+ Carlos Moran 29 recorded games, 200 OPS+ Pitcher Cy Young 7.5 Bill Dinneen 6.7 Noodles Hahn 6.4 Joe McGinnity 5.8 Deacon Phillipe 5.1 Kid Nichols 4.8 Sam Leever 4.8 Clark Griffith 4.5 Ned Garvin 4.3 Brickyard Kennedy 4.2 Jesse Tannehill 4.1 Rube Waddell 3.8 Luis Padron 7.1 (185.1 IP, 174 ERA+)
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1. DL from MN Posted: May 31, 2022 at 09:15 AM (#6079164)1900 Prelim
1) Honus Wagner - clear #1
2) Elmer Flick - best bat
3) Napoleon Lajoie
4) John McGraw
5) Billy Hamilton
6) Kip Selbach
7) Noodles Hahn - contraction dramatically raised the talent level for pitchers, moreso than for position players.
8) Cy Young
9) Grant Johnson - I have him ranked as the best SS this season. Wagner was still not playing SS full time
10) Willie Keeler
11-15) Jake Beckley, Bill Dahlen, George Davis, Jesse Burkett, Clark Griffith
16-20) Jimmy Collins, Joe Kelley, Bill Dinneen, Jesse Tannehill, Win Mercer
I still haven't figured out how to rate Luis Padron. He's clearly worth consideration but I haven't found MLE projections.
1) Cy Young
2) Honus Wagner
3) Elmer Flick
4) Noodles Hahn
5) Jesse Burkett
6) John McGraw
7) Kip Selbach
8) Billy Hamilton
9) Bill Dinneen
10) Nap Lajoie
11-15) Willie Keeler, Luis Padrón, Grant Johnson, George Davis, Joe McGinnity
16-20) Deacon Phillipe, Jake Beckley, Sam Leever, Joe Kelley, Bill Dahlen
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1) Honus Wagner – 6.4 WAR, 176 OPS+, 201 hits, 100 RBI, Best hitter
2) Elmer Flick – 5.9 WAR, 172 OPS+, 200 hits, 110 RBI, 11 HR
3) Cy Young – 7.2 WAR, 20 Wins, 120 ERA+, 2.76 FIP
4) John McGraw – 5.3 WAR, 157 OPS+, Best non-outfield hitter, excellent fielder
5) Joe McGinnity – 5.1 WAR, 28 Wins, 130 ERA+, 3.81 FIP, Regular Season Champion
6) Nap Lajoie – 4.2 WAR, 140 OPS+, Best fielding 2nd Baseman
7) Kip Selbach – 5.2 WAR, 150 OPS+, Best fielding Outfielder
8) Bill Dinneen – 6.9 WAR, 20 Wins, 132 ERA+, 3.67 FIP, good fielding pitcher
9) Jesse Burkett – 5.3 WAR, 151 OPS+, 203 hits
10) Willie Keeler – 3.7 WAR, 130 OPS+, 204 hits, Regular Season Champion
11) George Davis – 4.1 WAR, Best fielding Shortstop, 121 OPS+
12) Deacon Phillippe – 4.8 WAR, 20 Wins, 128 ERA+, 3.14 FIP
13) Joe Kelley – 3.5 WAR, 138 OPS+, Regular Season Champion
14) Billy Hamilton – 4.2 WAR, 123 OPS+, excellent fielder
15) Bill Dahlen – 3.2 WAR, excellent fielder, Regular Season Champion
16) Ed Delahanty – 2.9 WAR, 123 OPS+, 100 RBI, excellent fielder
17) Jake Beckley – 4.3 WAR, 129 OPS+
18) Jesse Tannehill – 4.9 WAR, 20 Wins, 126 ERA+, 3.34 FIP
19) Noodles Hahn – 6.2 WAR, 112 ERA+, 3.07 FIP
20) Jimmy Collins – 3.1 WAR, Best fielding 3rd Baseman
21) George Van Haltren – 3.4 WAR, 117 OPS+
22) Rube Waddell – 3.5 WAR, 153 ERA+, 2.75 FIP
23) Sam Leever – 4.7 WAR, 134 ERA+, 2.94 FIP
24) Ned Garvin – 3.8 WAR, 149 ERA+, 3.16 FIP
25) Clark Griffith – 5.0 WAR, 118 ERA+, 3.46 FIP
1 - Elmer Flick
2 - Honus Wagner
3 - Cy Young
4 - Jesse Burkett
5 - John McGraw
6 - Billy Hamilton
7 - Bill Dineen
8 - Nap Lajoie
9 - George Davis
10- Kip Selbach
The rest would be Noodles Hahn, Jake Beckley, Willie Keeler, Joe McGinnity, and Deacon Phillippe
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