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Most Meritorious Player: 1902 Results

Congratulations to George Edward “Rube” Waddell on winning the 1902 Most Meritorious Player award.

Player Name	pts	ballots	1sts
Rube Waddell	133	9	7
Cy Young	122	9	0
Honus Wagner	114	9	1
Jack Taylor	104	9	1
Ed Delahanty	99	9	0
Noodles Hahn	82	8	0
Napoleon Lajoie	63	7	0
Bill Bradley	43	5	0
Vic Willis	41	5	0
Ginger Beaumont	38	5	0
Tommy Leach	30	4	0
Fred Clarke	17	2	0
Sam Crawford	12	2	0
Joe McGinnity	12	2	0
Rube Foster	8	1	0
Jack Powell	8	1	0
Bill Dinneen	7	1	0
Grant Johnson	6	1	0
Charlie Hickman	6	1	0

DL from MN Posted: March 06, 2015 at 01:43 PM | 6 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. DL from MN Posted: March 06, 2015 at 02:15 PM (#4908617)

Two ballots and counting for Cy Young, Honus Wagner, Ed Delahanty, Noodles Hahn, Napoleon Lajoie, Vic Willis, Sam Crawford and Joe McGinnity

2. Qufini Posted: March 06, 2015 at 02:31 PM (#4908627)

That's six HoMers, one HoFer (and HoMer top ten returnee), and Noodles Hahn.

3. Qufini Posted: March 06, 2015 at 02:32 PM (#4908629)

Honus Wagner is NL MMP. The Jack Taylor without a cool nickname is the NL pitching MMP. And Nap Lajoie is AL position player MMP for the second year in a row, despite switching teams in midseason.

4. DL from MN Posted: March 06, 2015 at 03:14 PM (#4908655)

Hahn was fantastic until his arm gave out.

5. Qufini Posted: March 06, 2015 at 07:28 PM (#4908799)

No kidding. 134 ERA+ over 1910 innings in his first 6 seasons. 45.8 WAR and 30.8 WAA. He was well on his way to a HoM career. As it is, he's still worthy of the Hall of Very Good.

6. bjhanke Posted: March 07, 2015 at 04:21 AM (#4908892)

I've been promising to write an essay about pitchers in this decade, and a large part of that essay has to do with this year. The Pirates went 103-36, lapping the field, and while their offense was very very good, so was their pitching. But, if you look, no Pittsburgh pitcher got a single vote, not even from me. The reason, essentially, is that manager Fred Clarke was way ahead of the curve on pitching rotations, and had a 4 1/2 one in 1902. The pitchers who did get votes are not, in general, better pitchers than the Pittsburgh ones (Chesbro, Tannehill and Phillippe are almost even with each other, ahead of Leever and Doheny). But the ones that did get votes played on teams with 2 or 3 man rotations, so they pitched more innings - a hundred more, most of them. This is the essential problem I want to write about. This decade, 1901-1910, is the decade where there is the most difference in rotation lengths among teams, and I mean that compared to ANY other decade in MLB. It produces the odd result of having some of the obvious MMP candidates not getting votes because they were on teams whose pitching was too good for that. This strikes me as a problem in analysis. More detail to come, in the 1903 discussion thread. - Brock Hanke

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