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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Wednesday, July 01, 2015Most Meritorious Player: 1907 DiscussionMost Meritorious Player: 1907 Discussion The Cubs beat Detroit in the World Series. Player SH WS BBR WAR Honus Wagner 44.8 9.0 Sherry Magee 38.1 6.9 Ty Cobb 40.1 6.8 Napoleon Lajoie 29.4 7.6 Elmer Flick 33.7 5.6 George Stone 27.5 5.5 Tommy Leach 30.5 5.4 Fred Clarke 29.1 5.2 Art Devlin 23.6 4.6 Sam Crawford 35.5 5.9 Topsy Hartsel 27.4 4.3 Ginger Beaumont 26.8 4.5 Roger Bresnahan 17.8 3.7 Dave Brain 21.7 4.9 Frank Chance 22.0 4.7 Johnny Kling 18.4 3.5 Tim Jordan 22.0 3.6 Bobby Wallace 19.6 5.3 Fred Tenney 21.4 4.1 Mike Mitchell 19.5 3.4 Fielder Jones 26.3 4.1 Kid Elberfeld 21.7 3.1 Cy Seymour 21.6 3.7 Ed Hahn 26.6 3.2 Socks Seybold 19.5 3.1 Jimmy Sheckard 23.8 2.2 Davy Jones 22.5 3.5 Johnny Evers 20.9 5.3 Harry Steinfeldt 21.1 4.6 George Davis 17.2 4.6 Harry Davis 19.8 3.9 Pete Hill Pitcher SH WS BBR WAR Ed Walsh 34.2 7.6 Ed Killian 29.3 8.1 Ed Karger 21.2 6.9 Ed Siever 19.3 5.6 Eddie Plank 27.5 6.6 Christy Mathewson 26.7 7.7 Cy Young 26.1 7.9 Orval Overall 30.9 6.0 Bob Ewing 23.1 6.2 Addie Joss 31.8 5.6 Mordecai Brown 28.4 5.1 Chief Bender 20.9 5.6 Carl Lundgren 25.5 4.7 Bill Donovan 23.3 5.6 Doc White 23.4 4.6 Danny McClellan |
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1. DL from MN Posted: July 01, 2015 at 02:21 PM (#4990027)1) Honus Wagner - my guess is this is unanimous. Best hitter, played SS well. 3 win gap on the next player.
2) Sherry Magee - good fielder
3) Ty Cobb - my guess is this isn't his first and last appearance
4) Napoleon Lajoie - outstanding fielding numbers, Brock mentioned that might be fishy
5) Elmer Flick
6) Danny McClellan - good pitching numbers again in 1907, good hitter, not much outside of his 1905-1907 peak
7) Ed Karger - best MLB pitcher
8) George Stone
9) Ed Walsh - 422 IP
10) Tommy Leach - top CF this season
11-15) Fred Clarke, Art Devlin, Christy Mathewson, Sam Crawford, Cy Young
16-21) Pete Hill, Topsy Hartsel, Ginger Beaumont, Eddie Plank, Roger Bresnahan, Ed Killian
Not much hitting in this series - both teams well below a 700 OPS. 25 total runs scored in 5 games.
Oh yeah, and "Jack the Giant Killer" Pfiester? He started exactly one time against the Giants in 1907. 12 of his 22 starts were against Brooklyn and Boston.
-- MWE
EDIT: Brown didn't pitch in the World Series until Game 5. Overall started Games 1 and 4, Pfiester Game 2, Reulbach Game 3 (he relieved in Game 1, a 3-3 tie).
When Evers went from Chicago to Boston in 1914, essentially in a trade for Boston's 2B Bill Sweeney, the Braves went from near the bottom of the pack in DPs to near the top; the Cubs went the other way. Despite Bill James's trumpeting of Stallings's platoons in the outfield, the real difference between the 1913 Braves and the 1914 Braves was on the other side of the ball (when you consider park and league offensive level) - and Stallings himself said as much before the 1914 WS. It's no coincidence that the Chalmers Award voting in 1914 went Evers 1, Maranville 2, James 3.
-- MWE
I would argue that the best player this season is Dan McClellan again. I think that Win Shares Above Bench is a useful tool for measuring Negro League players. It adjusts to the fact that the Negro Leagues had less depth and a lower quality of play (especially at this early juncture) by measuring players against bench instead of replacement level. McClellan leads North American players in WSAB- 3.6 to Buckner's 2.7 and Petway's 2.5. That's a pretty significant margin. McClellan's rate numbers are slightly better than they were in 1906 as well (ERA+ of 213 and OPS+ of 108) though he didn't play as much so I would still rate his '06 season ahead. I'm not sure if it'll be enough to get him onto my ballot but McClellan is worth taking a look at as the top NeL player.
1. Honus Wagner, SS, Pittsburgh Pirates: 1st in OPS+ and RC; a huge lead over the rest of the field- the gap between #1 and #2 is as big as the gap from #2 to #9
2. Sherry Magee, LF, Philadelphia Phillies: 2nd in OPS+ and RC, adds +8 fielding on defense
3. Carl Lundgren, P, Chicago Cubs
4. Jack Pfiester, P, Chicago Cubs: WAR gives most of the credit to the Cubs' defense but I can't ignore ERA+ marks of 216 and 213, even when they're paired with relatively low IP totals
5. Ginger Beaumont, CF, Boston Doves: 3rd in OPS+ and RC; below average in centerfield (-4 fielding runs) but it's still a premium defensive position
6. Bob Ewing, P, Cincinnati Reds: the best combination of rate (150 ERA+) and bulk (332 innings)
7. Mordecai Brown, P, Chicago Cubs
8. Tommy Leach, CF/3B, Pittsburgh Pirates: sneaks into the top ten OPS+ with 136, adds +5 fielding at two tough positions
9. Dave Brain, 3B, Boston Doves: 134 OPS+ and +4 fielding at the hot corner
10. Fred Clarke, LF, Pittsburgh Pirates
1. Ed Walsh, P, Chicago White Sox: 1st in ERA+ with 150 while pitching an astronomical 422 IP
2. Ty Cobb, RF, Detroit Tigers: 1st in OPS+ and RC; a CF bonus would have pushed the Georgia Peach ahead of Walsh
3. Sam Crawford, CF, Detroit Tigers: 2nd in OPS+ and RC
4. Napoleon Lajoie, 2B, Cleveland Naps: 6th in OPS+, 7th in RC, great defense at the keystone
5. Addie Joss, P, Cleveland Naps: 136 ERA+ in 338 IP
6. George Stone, LF, St. Louis Browns: 152 OPS+ and 91 RC
7. Elmer Flick, LF, Cleveland Naps: 153 OPS+ and 85 RC
8. Ed Killian, P, Detroit Tigers: 146 ERA+ in 314 IP
9. Cy Young, P, Boston Americans: 129 ERA+ in 343 IP
10. Nig Clarke, C, Cleveland Naps: a top ten OPS+ (124) from the man behind the plate
1. Honus Wagner, SS, Pittsburgh Pirates: 1st in NL OPS+ and RC; a huge lead over the rest of the field- the gap from Wagner to Magee is the same as Magee to Brain
2. Sherry Magee, LF, Philadelphia Phillies: 2nd in NL OPS+ and RC, adds +8 fielding on defense
3. Ed Walsh, P, Chicago White Sox: 1st in AL ERA+ with 150 while pitching an astronomical 422 IP
4. Ty Cobb, RF, Detroit Tigers: 1st in AL OPS+ and RC; a CF bonus would have pushed the Georgia Peach ahead of Walsh
5. Sam Crawford, CF, Detroit Tigers: 2nd in AL OPS+ and RC
6. Carl Lundgren, P, Chicago Cubs
7. Jack Pfiester, P, Chicago Cubs: WAR gives most of the credit to the Cubs' defense but I can't ignore ERA+ marks of 216 and 213, even when they're paired with relatively low IP totals
8. Napoleon Lajoie, 2B, Cleveland Naps: 6th in AL OPS+, 7th in RC, great defense at the keystone
9. Addie Joss, P, Cleveland Naps: 136 ERA+ in 338 IP
10. Ginger Beaumont, CF, Boston Doves: 3rd in NL OPS+ and RC; -4 fielding run at a premium defensive position; narrowly beats out McClellan and Stone for the final ballot spot
11. Dan McClellan, P, Philadelphia Giants: 213 ERA+ and 108 OPS+
12. George Stone, LF, St. Louis Browns: 152 OPS+ and 91 RC
13. Bob Ewing, P, Cincinnati Reds
14. Mordecai Brown, P, Chicago Cubs
15. Elmer Flick, LF, Cleveland Naps: 153 OPS+ and 85 RC
1) Honus Wagner
2) Ty Cobb
3) Sherry Magee
4) Ed Walsh
5) Carl Lundgren
6) Sam Crawford
7) Orval Overall
8) Mordecai Brown
9) Elmer Flick
10) Nap Lajoie
1) Honus Wagner
2) Ty Cobb
3) Sherry Magee
4) Ed Walsh
5) Carl Lundgren
6) Sam Crawford
7) Orval Overall
8) Mordecai Brown
9) Christy Mathewson
10) Elmer Flick
1-Honus Wagner
2-Ty Cobb
3-Sherry Magee
4-Napoleon Lajoie
5-Christy Mathewson
6-Ed Walsh
7-Sam Crawford
8-Cy Young
9-Elmer Flick
10-Ed Killian
11-Rube Waddell
12-Addie Joss
13-Ed Karger
14-Orval Overall
15-Tommy Leach
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