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Most Meritorious Player: 1922 Ballot

For 1922 each voter should rank the top 10 players from all leagues combined.

Balloting is scheduled to close at 4pm EDT on 8 January 2020.

Anyone can vote, even if you do not normally participate in Hall of Merit discussions. If you have never participated in an MMP election, just post a preliminary ballot in the discussion thread by 7 January 2020.

For detailed rules see one of our previous ballots.

DL from MN Posted: December 19, 2019 at 04:15 PM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. DL from MN Posted: December 20, 2019 at 10:47 AM (#5910135)
1922 Ballot

1) Rogers Hornsby - best hitter
2) Bullet Rogan - better than he was in 1921 - improved pitching and hitting
3) Ken Williams - good glove
4) Oscar Charleston - best NGL position player
5) Red Faber - best MLB pitcher but not as good as 1921
6) George Sisler
7) Babe Ruth - getting royally screwed by the barnstorming suspension, 2nd best rate production to Hornsby
8) Dobie Moore - playing SS moves him just ahead of a crowd of players
9) Ty Cobb
10) Joe Williams - last great season

11-15) Tris Speaker, Biz Mackey, Alejandro Oms, Dick Redding, Bob O'Farrell
16-21) Andy Cooper, Heavy Johnson, Ray Grimes, Reuben Curry, Dave Bancroft, Eddie Rommel
   2. MrC. Posted: December 27, 2019 at 03:35 PM (#5911247)
1922 Ballot

1. George Sisler 8.79 WARR
2. Ken Williams 8.74 WARR
3. Red faber 8.60 WARR
4. Rogers Hornsby 8.37 WARR Best hitter, but gives away too much defensively
5. Oscar Charleston 7.70 WARR
6. Bullet Rogan 7.07 WARR
7. Dave Bancroft 6.54 WARR
8. Dobie Moore 6.42 WARR
9. Ray Grimes 6.41 WARR
10. Alejandro Oms 6.40 WARR

Rest of top 20
11. Urban Shocker
12. Joe Williams
13. Wilbur Cooper
14. Heavy Johnson
15. Dick Redding
16. Andy Cooper
17. Tris Speaker
18. Babe Ruth
19. ty Cobb
20. Bob O'Farrell
   3. DL from MN Posted: December 30, 2019 at 07:46 PM (#5911823)
13. Qufini Posted: December 22, 2019 at 04:43 PM (#5910482)
1922 Ballot

1. Rogers Hornsby, 2B, St. Louis Cardinals: 207 OPS+, 202 runs created, laps the field
2. George Sisler, 1B, St. Louis Browns: 170 OPS+, 163 RC and +6 fielding
3. Bullet Joe Rogan, P/CF, Kansas City Monarchs: 151 ERA+ in 202 IP and 193 OPS+
4. Oscar Charleston, CF, Indianapolis ABCs: 195 OPS+ in 467 PAs with +9 dWAR
5. Ken Williams, CF, St. Louis Browns: 164 OPS+ and 146 RC with +8 fielding
6. Red Faber, P, Chicago White Sox: 143 OPS+ with an otherworldly 352 IP
7. Urban Shocker, P, St. Louis Browns: 140 ERA+ in 348 IP to nip at Faber's heels
8. Tris Speaker, CF, Cleveland Indians: 177 OPS+ and 123 RC
9. Ty Cobb, CF, Detroit Tigers: 169 OPS+ and 131 RC
10. Babe Ruth, LF, New York Yankees: 182 OPS+ leads AL, though only in 110 games

11. Bob Shawkey, P, New York Yankees
12. Bob O'Farrell, C, Chicago Cubs
13. Ray Grimes, 1B, St. Louis Cardinals
14. Harry Heilmann, RF, Detroit Tigers
15. Wilbur Cooper, P, Pittsburgh Pirates: top pitcher in the NL
   4. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: January 05, 2020 at 06:00 PM (#5913090)
Official 1922 MMP Ballot (no postseason bonuses and a 1% reduction for AL players):

1) Rogers Hornsby: Best ML player and second baseman - nobody remotely close to him from the majors.
2) Oscar Charleston: Best NeL player and ML/NeL center fielder.
3) Smokey Joe Williams: Best ML/NeL pitcher.
4) Babe Ruth: Best AL player and ML outfielder.
5) Bullet Rogan
6) Wilbur Cooper: Best NL pitcher.
7) Ty Cobb: Best AL center fielder.
8) Red Faber: Best AL pitcher.
9) George Sisler: Best ML first baseman.
10) Ken Williams: Best pure left fielder.
   5. DL from MN Posted: January 07, 2020 at 02:27 PM (#5913599)
Only 4 ballots and we are supposed to close the election tomorrow. Nothing from bjhanke, Tubbs or Michael Binkley
   6. Michael J. Binkley's anxiety closet Posted: January 07, 2020 at 09:08 PM (#5913723)
1922 MMP Ballot

1. Rogers Hornsby (30.70)
2. George Sisler (22.99) - AL MMP
3. Bullet Rogan (22.63) - NgL MMP
4. Oscar Charleston (22.47) - NgL MMPosition PLayer
5. Red Faber (20.80) - AL MMPitcher
6. Ken Williams (18.30)
7. Dobie Moore (17.62)
8. Tris Speaker (17.27)
9. Urban Shocker (16.89)
10. Joe Williams (16.87)

11-15. Wilbur Cooper (NL MMPitcher), Dick Redding, Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Dave Bancroft

1922 All-Star Team

c - Bob O'Farrell
1b - George Sisler
2b - Rogers Hornsby
3b - John Beckwith
ss - Dobie Moore
lf - Ken Williams
cf - Oscar Charleston
rf - Heavy Johnson

sp - Bullet Rogan
sp - Red Faber
sp - Urban Shocker
sp - Joe Williams
   7. Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle Posted: January 08, 2020 at 08:44 AM (#5913774)
Final ballot-no postseason credit but some small credit for playing for a Pennant-contender
1. Rogers Hornsby --amazing Triple Crown year
2. George Sisler --sadly his final great year, AL-leading .420 avg higher than 257-hit 1920
3. Ken Williams --very productive year, led in other AL Triple Crown categories
4. Bullet Joe Rogan --just ahead of Charleston
5. Oscar Charleston
6. Red Faber --best pitcher for what was left of Chicago team depleted by Black Sox scandal
7. Ty Cobb --hit .400 for first time in a decade & last time in career
8. Tris Speaker --just behind Cobb
9. Babe Ruth --probably would be #2 or #3 if not for suspension
10.Bob Shawkey --edges Urban Shocker for final spot
Best NL pitcher Wilbur Cooper just misses top 10, probably 12th or 13th
   8. bjhanke Posted: January 08, 2020 at 10:47 AM (#5913820)
Brock Hanke's Ballott for 1922:

1. Rogers Hornsby
2. George Sisler
3. Oscar Charleston
4. Ty Cobb
5. Kenny Williams
6. Red Faber
7. Tris Speaker
8. Bullet Rogan
9. Urban Shocker
10. Babe Ruth
   9. DL from MN Posted: January 08, 2020 at 03:59 PM (#5913957)
1922 election is over

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