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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Thursday, December 19, 2019Most Meritorious Player: 1922 BallotFor 1922 each voter should rank the top 10 players from all leagues combined. Balloting is scheduled to close at 4pm EDT on 8 January 2020. Anyone can vote, even if you do not normally participate in Hall of Merit discussions. If you have never participated in an MMP election, just post a preliminary ballot in the discussion thread by 7 January 2020. For detailed rules see one of our previous ballots. |
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1. DL from MN Posted: December 20, 2019 at 10:47 AM (#5910135)1) Rogers Hornsby - best hitter
2) Bullet Rogan - better than he was in 1921 - improved pitching and hitting
3) Ken Williams - good glove
4) Oscar Charleston - best NGL position player
5) Red Faber - best MLB pitcher but not as good as 1921
6) George Sisler
7) Babe Ruth - getting royally screwed by the barnstorming suspension, 2nd best rate production to Hornsby
8) Dobie Moore - playing SS moves him just ahead of a crowd of players
9) Ty Cobb
10) Joe Williams - last great season
11-15) Tris Speaker, Biz Mackey, Alejandro Oms, Dick Redding, Bob O'Farrell
16-21) Andy Cooper, Heavy Johnson, Ray Grimes, Reuben Curry, Dave Bancroft, Eddie Rommel
1. George Sisler 8.79 WARR
2. Ken Williams 8.74 WARR
3. Red faber 8.60 WARR
4. Rogers Hornsby 8.37 WARR Best hitter, but gives away too much defensively
5. Oscar Charleston 7.70 WARR
6. Bullet Rogan 7.07 WARR
7. Dave Bancroft 6.54 WARR
8. Dobie Moore 6.42 WARR
9. Ray Grimes 6.41 WARR
10. Alejandro Oms 6.40 WARR
Rest of top 20
11. Urban Shocker
12. Joe Williams
13. Wilbur Cooper
14. Heavy Johnson
15. Dick Redding
16. Andy Cooper
17. Tris Speaker
18. Babe Ruth
19. ty Cobb
20. Bob O'Farrell
1) Rogers Hornsby: Best ML player and second baseman - nobody remotely close to him from the majors.
2) Oscar Charleston: Best NeL player and ML/NeL center fielder.
3) Smokey Joe Williams: Best ML/NeL pitcher.
4) Babe Ruth: Best AL player and ML outfielder.
5) Bullet Rogan
6) Wilbur Cooper: Best NL pitcher.
7) Ty Cobb: Best AL center fielder.
8) Red Faber: Best AL pitcher.
9) George Sisler: Best ML first baseman.
10) Ken Williams: Best pure left fielder.
1. Rogers Hornsby (30.70)
2. George Sisler (22.99) - AL MMP
3. Bullet Rogan (22.63) - NgL MMP
4. Oscar Charleston (22.47) - NgL MMPosition PLayer
5. Red Faber (20.80) - AL MMPitcher
6. Ken Williams (18.30)
7. Dobie Moore (17.62)
8. Tris Speaker (17.27)
9. Urban Shocker (16.89)
10. Joe Williams (16.87)
11-15. Wilbur Cooper (NL MMPitcher), Dick Redding, Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Dave Bancroft
1922 All-Star Team
c - Bob O'Farrell
1b - George Sisler
2b - Rogers Hornsby
3b - John Beckwith
ss - Dobie Moore
lf - Ken Williams
cf - Oscar Charleston
rf - Heavy Johnson
sp - Bullet Rogan
sp - Red Faber
sp - Urban Shocker
sp - Joe Williams
1. Rogers Hornsby --amazing Triple Crown year
2. George Sisler --sadly his final great year, AL-leading .420 avg higher than 257-hit 1920
3. Ken Williams --very productive year, led in other AL Triple Crown categories
4. Bullet Joe Rogan --just ahead of Charleston
5. Oscar Charleston
6. Red Faber --best pitcher for what was left of Chicago team depleted by Black Sox scandal
7. Ty Cobb --hit .400 for first time in a decade & last time in career
8. Tris Speaker --just behind Cobb
9. Babe Ruth --probably would be #2 or #3 if not for suspension
10.Bob Shawkey --edges Urban Shocker for final spot
Best NL pitcher Wilbur Cooper just misses top 10, probably 12th or 13th
1. Rogers Hornsby
2. George Sisler
3. Oscar Charleston
4. Ty Cobb
5. Kenny Williams
6. Red Faber
7. Tris Speaker
8. Bullet Rogan
9. Urban Shocker
10. Babe Ruth
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