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Most Meritorious Player: 1922 Discussion

The US Supreme Court declared that baseball games are not interstate commerce and are exempt from anti-trust laws. Babe Ruth was suspended for illegal barnstorming until May 20.

The Giants beat the Yankees in 5 games where one was declared a tie (4-0-1). All World Series games are played at the Polo Grounds.

The Chicago American Giants and Indianapolis ABCs are the top teams in the Negro National League.

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Player			SH WS		BBR WAR
Rogers Hornsby		47.2		10.0
Ken Williams		30.0		8.7
George Sisler		29.4		7.9
Babe Ruth		28.2		6.3
Ty Cobb			28.9		6.7
Tris Speaker		29.9		6.9
Bob O'Farrell		25.6		5.9
Ray Grimes		28.0		5.6
Dave Bancroft		27.5		6.0
Max Carey		28.9		5.1
Charlie Hollocher	23.8		4.9
Harry Heilmann		24.0		5.4
Rabbit Maranville	22.4		1.5
Bobby Veach		22.5		4.9
Frankie Frisch		20.2		4.4
Ross Youngs		21.8		3.8
Carson Bigbee		23.1		4.2
Zack Wheat		26.4		4.3
Jake Daubert		23.5		4.0
Marty McManus		20.3		4.4
Joe Sewell		21.6		2.7
Irish Meusel		22.8		3.3
Ray Schalk		21.7		4.0
Wally Schang		17.6		4.2
Highpockets Kelly	20.5		3.9
Bob Meusel		20.6		3.3
Wally Pipp		21.5		4.6
Eddie Collins		22.2		3.9
Harry Hooper		21.1		3.7
Earl Sheely		19.2		3.9
Baby Doll Jacobson	19.7		3.9
Tillie Walker		21.9		3.6
Curt Walker		16.3		3.9
Bing Miller		21.5		4.2
Pat Duncan		21.2		2.7

Oscar Charleston	26.8
Cristobal Torriente	11.2
Alejandro Oms		3.9
John Beckwith		17.4
Biz Mackey		17.3	
Hurley McNair		17.2
Ben Taylor		16.4	
Heavy Johnson		14.9
Charlie Blackwell	12.1
Jimmie Lyons 		7.1
John Henry Lloyd	5.8
Jud Wilson		7.6
Dobie Moore		13.0
Frank Warfield		7.4
Louis Santop		7.7
Dick Lundy		2.0
Edgar Wesley		13.1
Bill Pettus		12.3

Pitcher			SH WS		BBR WAR
Red Faber		30.9		9.2
Wilbur Cooper		25.9		7.5
Eddie Rommel		26.8		7.0
Urban Shocker		27.3		7.2
Bob Shawkey		27.8		6.8
Dutch Ruether		20.6		5.1
Walter Johnson		21.1		5.4
Herman Pillette		21.7		5.5	
Stan Coveleski		21.8		5.8
Lee Meadows		16.8		4.9
Jeff Pfeffer		20.1		4.4
Johnny Morrison		21.6		5.9
Tom Zachary		15.9		4.3
Elam Vangilder		21.1		5.6
Pete Alexander		18.8		4.2
George Uhle		20.7		5.7
Jack Quinn		19.7		4.7
Dixie Leverett		17.4		4.4
Joe Bush		25.7		4.9
Dazzy Vance		16.6		3.9
Eppa Rixey		22.8		3.7
Waite Hoyt		21.0		4.0
Sam Jones		19.7		2.5
Art Nehf		19.3		3.7
Babe Adams		12.7		4.4

Bullet Rogan		31.6
Jim Jeffries		20.0
Lewis Hampton		23.3
Juan Padron		13.2
Reuben Curry		16.1
Bill Holland		16.5
Dave Brown		12.9
Joe Williams		5.8
Bill Force		15.9	
Dick Redding		11.6
Cool Papa Bell		9.1
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   1. DL from MN Posted: November 25, 2019 at 05:25 PM (#5903852)
I have Hornsby as a clear #1 this season.
   2. DL from MN Posted: November 25, 2019 at 05:41 PM (#5903861)
Since another year has gone by in the project I thought it might be useful to revisit the schedule:

Completed
1961-1977 +2012
1978-1988 +2013
1950-1960 +2014
1901-1911 +2015
1989-1999 +2016 (1950-1999 covered)
2000-2011 +2017 (1950-2017 covered)
1940-1949 +2018 (1940-2018 covered)
1912-1921 +2019 (1901-1921 plus 1940-2019 covered)

To-do
1922-1932 +2020 (1901-1932 plus 1940-2020 covered)
1933-1939 +2021 (1901-2021 finished in 10 years)

   3. DL from MN Posted: November 25, 2019 at 05:56 PM (#5903865)
Not in HoM - appeared on the MMP ballot in the most seasons

Alex Rodriguez - 10
Joey Votto - 8
Miguel Cabrera - 8
Clayton Kershaw - 7
Justin Verlander - 7 (soon to be 8)
Mike Trout - 7 (also will be 8)
Andrew McCutchen - 6
Andruw Jones - 6
Chase Utley - 6
Dale Murphy - 6
David Ortiz - 6
Fred McGriff - 6
Jason Giambi - 6
Lance Berkman - 6
Nomar Garciaparra - 6
Robinson Cano - 6
Todd Helton - 6
Adrian Beltre - 5
Albert Belle - 5
Buster Posey - 5
CC Sabathia - 5
Carlos Beltran - 5
Dave Concepcion - 5
David Wright - 5
Derek Jeter - 5
Joe Mauer - 5
Max Scherzer - 5
Sammy Sosa - 5
Troy Tulowitzki - 5
   4. DL from MN Posted: November 25, 2019 at 06:00 PM (#5903866)
MMP award winners, fewest years on a ballot

Bryce Harper - 1
Josh Hamilton - 2
Fred Lynn - 2
Phil Rizzuto - 2
Dwight Gooden - 2
Dizzy Trout - 2
   5. DL from MN Posted: November 26, 2019 at 11:14 AM (#5903996)
Eric C MLEs 1922
Player Name Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Rfield Rpos RAA   WAA  Rrep RAR   WAR
=======================================================================
Oscar Charleston  25 NL  CF  600   75    2     - 2   - 3   71   6.6   19   90   8.4
Alejandro Oms  26 NL  CF  600   61    0    0    -1    -3   56   5.3   21   77   7.3
Dobie Moore  26 NL  SS  610   36    0      11    8   56   5.3   19   75   7.2
Bullet Rogan  28 NL  CF  650   53    1       4   - 6   52   4.9   20   72   6.9
Heavy Johnson  27 NL  RF  570   59    0    0    -2   - 5    52   4.8   19   71   6.8
Biz Mackey  24 NL  C  500   35    0       1    4   40   3.8   16   56   5.3
Bernardo Baro  26  NL CF   550   41    1      0     - 3    39   1.2   17   56   5.3
Hurley McNair  33 NL  LF  570   39    0     3     - 5   36   3.4   18   54   5.2
Ben Taylor  33 NL  1B  610   37    0       4   - 5   35   3.3   19   54   5.2
Cristobal Torriente  28 NL  CF  570   37    1       0   - 3    34   3.2   18   52   5.0
John Beckwith  22 NL SS    470   31    0    0    -1     6   37   3.4   15   51   4.9
Dick Lundy 23 NL  SS   530   25    0    0      2     7   34   3.2   17   51   4.9
Irvin Brooks  31 NL  CF  560   29  - 1     1   - 3    27   2.5   17   44   4.2
Bill Pierce  32 NL  1B    480   31   -1       3   - 4   29   2.7   15   44   4.2
Edgar Wesley  31 NL  1B  610   29    0       2   - 5   25   2.4   19   44   4.2
Jud Wilson  26  NL  3B  550   19    0       3     4   26   2.5   17   44   4.2
Spots Poles  34 NL  LF  450   18    1    0     2   - 4    16   1.6   15   32   3.1
Pelayo Chacon  33 NL SS    550    5    0      2     8   15   1.5   17   32   3.1
Blainey Hall  33  NL LF   600   20    0     -1    -6    13   1.2   19   31   3.0
Bill Riggins  22 NL SS    650  - 12    0      7     9     4   0.4   20   24   2.4
Louis Santop  33 NL  C  270   13    0       0    2   15   1.4    8   24   2.3
Ollie Marcelle  27 NL  3B  570  - 1    0      2    4     5   0.5   18   23   2.2
John Henry Lloyd  38 NL 1B    350    9    0    0     2   - 3    7   0.7   11   18   1.7
Fats Jenkins  24 NL  LF  350    7    0     1    - 3     6   0.6   11   17   1.6
George Carr  27 NL  1B  560    3    0     - 1   - 5  - 3  -0.3   17   14   1.4
Doc Wiley 35  NL  C  320    1    0       0     2    4   0.4  11   15   1.4
Pete Hill  39 NL RF   440    5    0    0    -1    -4    0   0.0   14   14   1.4
Jimmie Lyons  32 NL  LF   530  - 2     1     0     2    - 5   - 4  -0.4   17   13   1.3
Judy Johnson  22 NL  3B  350  - 2    0       2    2    2   0.2   11   13   1.2
Rev Cannady  20 NL  SS  110    5    0       0     2    7   0.6    3   10   1.0
George Scales  21 NL  2B  270  - 2    0      1    2     0   0.0    8    9   0.9

                       PITCHING          |  BATTING    |  TOTAL
PITCHER NAME  AGE   IP  RAA   WAA   WAR  |  PA    WAR  |   WAR
================================================================
Bullet Rogan   28  280   46   4.7   7.6  |   93   0.8  |   8.4
Joe Williams   36  250   41   4.2   6.7  |   83   0.5  |   7.2
Dick Redding   32  250   41   4.2   6.7  |   83   0.3  |   7.0
Andy Cooper   26  250   46   4.7   7.2  |   83  -0.3  |   6.9
Juan Padron   29  250   41   4.2   6.7  |   83   0.0  |   6.7 
Reuben Curry   23  280   37   3.7   6.6  |   93   0.1  |   6.7
Dave Brown   27    250   41   4.2   6.7  |   83  -0.1  |   6.6
Bill Holland   21  130   31   3.2   4.5  |   43  -0.1  |   4.4 
Dick Whitworth  26  180  - 2  -0.2   1.7  |   60   0.1  |   1.8 
Jose Junco   32   10    5   0.4   0.5  |    3   0.0  |   0.5 
   6. DL from MN Posted: November 26, 2019 at 12:53 PM (#5904023)
1922 Prelim

1) Rogers Hornsby - best hitter
2) Bullet Rogan - better than he was in 1921 - improved pitching and hitting
3) Ken Williams - good glove
4) Oscar Charleston - best NGL position player
5) Red Faber - best MLB pitcher but not as good as 1921
6) George Sisler
7) Babe Ruth - getting royally screwed by the barnstorming suspension, 2nd best rate production to Hornsby
8) Dobie Moore - playing SS moves him just ahead of a crowd of players
9) Ty Cobb
10) Joe Williams - last great season

11-15) Tris Speaker, Biz Mackey, Alejandro Oms, Dick Redding, Bob O'Farrell
16-21) Andy Cooper, Heavy Johnson, Ray Grimes, Reuben Curry, Eddie Rommel, Dave Bancroft

I think the NGL MLEs need at least as strong of a standard deviation adjustment as the NL (0.91), perhaps more. There can't be that many pitchers that far above average, especially considering how regressed the MLB pitchers are. I basically did my own 90% standard deviation adjustment on those numbers.
   7. Qufini Posted: November 26, 2019 at 02:20 PM (#5904052)
MMP award winners, fewest years on a ballot

Bryce Harper - 1
Josh Hamilton - 2
Fred Lynn - 2
Phil Rizzuto - 2
Dwight Gooden - 2
Dizzy Trout - 2

Harper may never another year like 2015 but he's got time to improve his position on this list.
   8. DL from MN Posted: November 26, 2019 at 02:50 PM (#5904065)
https://calltothepen.com/2011/12/18/baseball-history-babe-ruths-1921-suspension/


After the season Ruth decided to barnstorm along with teammate and outfielder Bob Meusel. In doing so, Ruth and Meusel broke a major league rule against barnstorming by players who participated in the World Series. The first Commissioner in baseball history, Kenesaw Mountain Landis, believed that the Series should be the most important event of the baseball season. With baseball’s reputation having suffered from the Black Sox scandal of 1919 Landis did not want anything to take away from the fans faith in the game.
According to ‘The Image of Their Greatness’ by Lawrence Ritter and Donald Honig, when Ruth heard that Landis meant to enforce the rule he reportedly said, ‘Tell the old guy to go jump in the lake.’
Landis did not respond. He simply waited until late in 1921 before announcing his decision. The Commissioner fined Babe Ruth, considered the greatest player in baseball history, and his teammate Meusel their full World Series shares of $3,500 and suspended them for the first six weeks of the 1922 season. Landis’ handling of Ruth is considered by some to have strengthened his role as Commissioner more than any other act.
Despite protests from the fans, Ruth was not reinstated and began the 1922 season in street clothes. Even when he came back his suspension did not lead to reform. Ruth was suspended twice more in 1922 for arguing and throwing dirt on an umpire then cursing at another.
   9. DL from MN Posted: November 26, 2019 at 02:57 PM (#5904068)
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/nzxzbq/throwback-thursday-the-year-babe-ruth-lost-it-and-grew-up

On June 19th, Ruth came all the way in from left field to argue a call at second base with umpire Bill Dinneen. Ruth wasn't involved in the play, in which Dineen ruled that a runner had beaten a Meusel throw to second. Ruth, the umpire said in his report to the league, had called him "one of the vilest of names." This brought on his third suspension of the season. The next day, Ruth again confronted the umpire during batting practice, threatening, "If you ever put me out of a game again, I'll fix you so you will never umpire again, even if they put me out of baseball for life." Only the intervention of several Cleveland Indians players prevented the two from coming to blows.
What had been a two-day suspension became a five-day suspension without pay; the forfeited amount was about $1,500.
   10. DL from MN Posted: December 05, 2019 at 04:42 PM (#5906055)
In 1922, Sisler hit safely in 41 consecutive games, an American League record that stood until Joe DiMaggio broke it in 1941. His .420 batting average is the third-highest of the 20th century, surpassed only by Nap Lajoie's .426 in 1901 and Rogers Hornsby's .424 in 1924. Sisler also led the AL in hits (246), runs (134), stolen bases (51), and triples (18). He was chosen as the AL's Most Valuable Player that year,[1] the first year an official league award was given, as the Browns finished second to the New York Yankees. Sisler's 1922 season is considered by many historians to be among the best individual all-around single-season performances in baseball history.[22]
A severe attack of sinusitis caused him double vision in 1923


George Sisler wiki page
   11. DL from MN Posted: December 05, 2019 at 04:49 PM (#5906057)
Ken Williams SABR Bio

The St. Louis left fielder was the first player in the major leagues to hit more than 30 home runs and steal 30 bases (37). He also became the first player to hit more home runs in a season (37) than he had strikeouts (31). Williams hit a homer in six consecutive games from July 28 through August 2. On August 7 he became the first American Leaguer to hit two home runs in one inning.

He became the first batter in the American League to hit three home runs in one game. He achieved that feat against the Chicago White Sox on April 22, 1922, at Sportsman’s Park. The onslaught propelled Williams to slug seven homers in nine games between April 22 and 29. This power surge prompted L.C. Davis of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch wrote the following poem paying tribute to the slugger.

Whose name is on every tongue? Ken Williams
Whose praises are now daily sung? Ken Williams
Who is the rooter’s joy and pride?
Who gives the pesky pill a ride?
And separates it from its hide? Ken Williams
Who is our most admired youth? Ken Williams
Who makes the fan forget Babe Ruth? Ken Williams
Who is the guy so calm and cool?
Who swings his trusty batting tool?
And knocks the pellet for a gool? Ken Williams



He used a 48-ounce bat, saying, “… I always favor a heavy one because when you connect with the ball with every ounce of strength in your frame, the weight of the bat is going to help the ball to travel. That’s my theory anyway and it seems to work

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