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Monday, April 27, 2020

Most Meritorious Player: 1926 Ballot

For 1926 each voter should rank the top 10 players from all leagues combined.

Balloting is scheduled to close at 4pm EDT on 6 May 2020.

Anyone can vote, even if you do not normally participate in Hall of Merit discussions. If you have never participated in an MMP election, just post a preliminary ballot in the discussion thread by 6 May 2020.

For detailed rules see one of our previous ballots.

DL from MN Posted: April 27, 2020 at 04:08 PM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. DL from MN Posted: April 27, 2020 at 04:11 PM (#5945112)
bjhanke Posted: April 25, 2020 at 02:17 PM (#5944242)
I am having EXTREME trouble with the internet right now. It's slow as molasses, probably because everyone is staying home with extra time on their hands and an internet connection. Anyway, I DID manage to get to here with actual posting privileges (also a problem), so I'm going to post my 1926 ballot now, and ask DL to transfer it to the Ballot Thread when it opens. I also have an essay about Rogers Hornsby to post up, but it's not quite done yet, and I'm afraid to get off the internet to finish it before I post my ballot. So, here is my 1926 ballot, with no comments:

1. Babe Ruth
2. George Uhle
3. Goose Goslin
4. Lou Gehrig
5. Joe Sewell
7. Willlie Foster
8. Paul Waner
9. Tris Speaker
10. Lefty Grove.
   2. DL from MN Posted: April 28, 2020 at 01:19 PM (#5945469)
1926 Ballot

1) Babe Ruth - this one was easy
2) Willie Foster - best pitcher in the NGL and a down year for MLB pitchers
3) Hal Carlson - best MLB pitcher
4) Joe Sewell - great defense
5) George Uhle - best AL pitcher
6) Turkey Stearnes - best NGL position player
7) Lou Gehrig - best MLB hitter who isn't Ruth, postseason bonus
8) Paul Waner - great defense
9) Mule Suttles - best bat who isn't Babe Ruth
10) Dick Lundy - lack of documented games depresses his NGL WAR at Seamheads, rate stats are good

11-15) Lefty Grove, Ray Kremer, Johnny Mostil, Goose Goslin, Martin Dihigo
16-20) Willie Kamm, Hack Wilson, Willie Wells, Jesse Petty, John Beckwith
21-26) Jud Wilson, Tris Speaker, Cristobal Torriente, Kiki Cuyler, William Bell, Nip Winters
   3. MrC. Posted: May 01, 2020 at 11:20 AM (#5946512)
1926 Ballot

1. Babe Ruth 11,02 WARR
2. Lefty Grove 9.75 WARR
3. Johnny Mostil 7.54 WARR
4. Bullet Rogan 6.19 WARR
5. Jud Wilson 6.07 WARR
6. Pal Waner 5.87 WARR
7. Ray Kremer 5.85 WARR
8. Lou Gehrig 5.80 WARR
9. Hal Carlson 5.69 WARR
10. Dick Lundy 5.64 WARR

Rest of top 20
11 Dick Redding
12. Joe Sewell
13. George Uhle
14. Goose Goslin
15. Willie Kamm
16. Charlie Root
17. Jesse Petty
18. Frankie Frisch
19. Oscar Charleston
20. William Bell




   4. DL from MN Posted: May 05, 2020 at 12:04 PM (#5947889)
I know we typically get a bunch of these late but right now we only have 2 complete ballots.
   5. Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle Posted: May 05, 2020 at 04:08 PM (#5948070)
Final ballot-no postseason credit but some small credit for playing for a Pennant-contender

1. Babe Ruth -easy #1
2. Lou Gehrig -very close battle for 2nd place
3. Goose Goslin
4. George Uhle -top pitcher, looks like MVP voters gave him no respect
5. Hack Wilson -just edges Big Poison for top NL player
6. Paul Waner
7. Willie Foster
8. Harry Heilmann
9. Johnny Mostil
10.Heinie Manush -.378 BA kept the Babe from the Triple Crown

Manush just beat out Simmons, Hal Carlson beats Ray Kremer by a hair for top NL pitcher

   6. Qufini Posted: May 06, 2020 at 11:56 AM (#5948333)
I plan to submit a ballot this afternoon but might need an extension to 5 o'clock or so.
   7. Qufini Posted: May 06, 2020 at 01:09 PM (#5948373)
Nevermind about the extension request, I was able to get my ballot done over lunchtime

1926 Ballot

1. Babe Ruth, LF/RF, New York Yankees: easy #1: a full 100 points ahead of next best player
2. Willie Foster, P, Chicago American Giants: 286 ERA+ in 227 IP (23 starts plus assorted relief outings)
3. George Uhle, P, Cleveland Indians: 318 IP leads MLB, 144 ERA+ is 2nd in AL
4. Mule Suttles, 1B, St. Louis Stars: 248 OPS+
5. Lefty Grove, P, Philadelphia Athletics: 165 ERA+ leads MLB, 258 IP is low for an ace
6. Goose Goslin, LF, Washington Senators: 153 OPS+ and +6 fielding
7. Lou Gehrig, 1B, New York Yankees: 152 OPS+ and +6 fielding
8. Bubbles Hargrave, C, Cincinnati Reds: a catcher with a 152 OPS+, best position player in NL
9. Al Simmons, CF, Philadelphia Athletics: 142 OPS+ and 130 RC
10. Charlie Root, P, Chicago Cubs: 137 ERA+ is 2nd in NL, 271 IP is 4th

11. Heinie Manush, CF, Detroit Tigers
12. Jesse Petty, P, Brooklyn Robins
13. Ted Lyons, P, Chicago White Sox
14. Johnny Mostil, CF, Chicago White Sox
15. Paul Waner, RF, Pittsburgh Pirates
16. Turkey Stearnes, CF, Detroit Stars
17. Ray Kremer, P, Pittsburgh Pirates
18. Hal Carlson, P, Philadelphia Phillies
19. Harry Heilmann, RF, Detroit Tigers
20. Wally Schang, C, St. Louis Browns
   8. DL from MN Posted: May 06, 2020 at 02:28 PM (#5948399)
I plan to submit a ballot this afternoon but might need an extension to 5 o'clock or so.


I will probably extend the deadline. Brock has a ballot that is one name away from being counted.
   9. Michael J. Binkley's anxiety closet Posted: May 06, 2020 at 03:21 PM (#5948422)
1926 MMP Ballot:

1. Babe Ruth (40.25)
2. George Uhle (24.12) - MMPitcher
3. Hal Carlson (19.51) - NL MMP
4. Bullet Rogan (17.31) - NgL MMP
5. Ray Kremer (16.69)
6. Lefty Grove (16.17)
7. Goose Goslin (14.58)
8. Jud Wilson (14.42) - NgL MMPosition Player
9. Lou Gehrig (14.33)
10. Dick Redding (13.67)

11-15. Dick Lundy, Johnny Mostil, Joe Sewell, Paul Waner (NL MMPosition Player), Frankie Frisch.
   10. DL from MN Posted: May 06, 2020 at 10:54 PM (#5948559)
Extending until I get a full ballot from bjhanke. Also would like one from Murphy.
   11. bjhanke Posted: May 10, 2020 at 01:55 PM (#5949190)
FINALLY! DL - It's taken me this long, since you put up the "I need a full ballot from Brock" message, to just get into BTF and be allowed commenting privileges on the BlogPen.

One - Count the one you have (comment #1 here, transferred from the Discussion). I don't think that the ballot itself is lacking anything. I listed my top ten picks.

Two - If I do this again - put up a ballot on the Discussion Thread, and the deadline for voting passes, then just use the one you have! Remember, it can be, literally DAYS before I can even get here to comment or put up another ballot. It's not like I haven't been trying. It's just taken, literally, days to finally get here. For some reason, BTF's BlogPen hates my guts. I can always comment on Newsstand or anyplace other than BlogPen.

Thanks - Brock
   12. Howie Menckel Posted: May 10, 2020 at 02:16 PM (#5949194)
I listed my top ten picks.

who is 6th on your ballot?
   13. bjhanke Posted: May 10, 2020 at 06:04 PM (#5949231)
OH! I hadn't checked that; I was focuses on letting you print the results. Anyway, I keep records, so I know that the #6 on my ballot for 1926 is Johnny Mostil.
   14. bjhanke Posted: May 10, 2020 at 06:05 PM (#5949232)
OH! I hadn't checked that; I was focuses on letting you print the results. Anyway, I keep records, so I know that the #6 on my ballot for 1926 is Johnny Mostil.
   15. DL from MN Posted: May 10, 2020 at 08:17 PM (#5949251)
Thanks, Brock. I'm ending the election Monday 5/10 at 4:00 eastern
   16. DL from MN Posted: May 11, 2020 at 04:02 PM (#5949473)
Election is over, results shortly
   17. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: May 11, 2020 at 06:09 PM (#5949507)
Heh. I thought my prelim would have been okay to be used (like countless others over the years here) for this election just based on my 17 years on this site. Guess not, most likely due to its eccentricity. Consider me retired then. It was fun.
   18. DL from MN Posted: May 11, 2020 at 06:24 PM (#5949515)
Sorry, didn't know if you wanted to update your prelim. I offered an extension and emailed you, though I'm not sure if you got the email. I can update the results since you did post a prelim and it won't affect the winner.
   19. DL from MN Posted: May 11, 2020 at 06:31 PM (#5949518)
BTW - there's only 1 year left in this project, 13 past elections after this one 1927-1939.
   20. Qufini Posted: June 02, 2020 at 09:46 AM (#5954889)
test
   21. Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle Posted: June 02, 2020 at 11:06 PM (#5955037)
Consider me retired then. It was fun.

I hope to see you return or at least not gone for too long. We need all the voters we can get. It's like losing Ted Williams on the old Veterans Committee. Who's gonna pound the table & argue for Dom Dimaggio?

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