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Wednesday, October 21, 2020

Most Meritorious Player: 1932 Ballot

For 1932 each voter should rank the top 10 players from all leagues combined.

Balloting is scheduled to close at 4pm EDT on 4 November 2020. Please let me know if you want your preliminary ballot counted as your final ballot.

Anyone can vote, even if you do not normally participate in Hall of Merit discussions. If you have never participated in an MMP election, just post a preliminary ballot in the discussion thread by 3 November 2020.

For detailed rules see one of our previous ballots.

DL from MN Posted: October 21, 2020 at 10:24 PM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. DL from MN Posted: October 22, 2020 at 09:26 AM (#5984499)
1932 Ballot

1) Jimmie Foxx - best bat by more than a win
2) Carl Hubbell - NL has lower standard deviations in run scoring than the AL. This will boost NL candidates on my ballot
3) Babe Ruth - Postseason bonus isn't enough to get to the #2 slot
4) Satchel Paige - huge strikeout rate as he dominates the fractured Negro Leagues
5) Lou Gehrig - terrific World Series gives him a boost on the ballot
6) Chuck Klein - NL boost
7) Lefty Grove - best AL pitcher
8) Lon Warneke - not helped by his postseason
9) Mel Ott - Strong bat
10) Mickey Cochrane - having a good run of seasons here

11-17) Joe Cronin, Red Ruffing, Babe Herman, Dizzy Dean, Martin Dihigo, Bill Terry, Tony Lazzeri
   2. bjhanke Posted: October 22, 2020 at 05:11 PM (#5984609)
Hi. Here’s Brock Hanke’s ballot. Hey! I got posting privileges to the Ballot Thread. The ballot itself has nothing remarkable about it that I can see. I put Satchel Paige in there at #6 because numbers 1-5 have very good consensus, and then it breaks up. I am sure that Paige belongs, and this was a good place to put him. Enough of this; here’s the list:

1. Jimmy Foxx
2. Babe Ruth
3. Lou Gherig
4. Met Ott
5. Lefty Grove
6. Satchel Paige
7. Bill Terry
8. Chuck Klein
9. Lefty O’Doul
10. Lon Warneke
   3. Cassidemius Posted: October 25, 2020 at 04:53 PM (#5985276)
1. Jimmmie Foxx
2. Babe Ruth
3. Lou Gehrig
4. Mel Ott
5. Lefty Grove
6. Satchel Paige
7. Mickey Cochrane
8. Chuck Klein
9. Cool Papa Bell
10. Lefty O'Doul

Best NL pitcher is Lon Warnecke.
   4. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 26, 2020 at 09:27 AM (#5985428)
Official 1932 MMP Ballot (no postseason bonuses and a slight reduction for AL players):

1) Jimmie Foxx: Best ML player and first baseman.
2) Mel Ott: Best NL player and ML right fielder - not as good as Double X, but not too shabby.
3) Bill Terry: Best NL first baseman.
4) Babe Ruth: Best AL right fielder.
5) Lefty Grove: Best ML pitcher.
6) Lou Gehrig: Best iron man.
7) Lon Warneke: Best NL pitcher.
8) Mickey Cochrane: Best ML catcher.
9) Chuck Klein: Best player in a NL bandbox.
10) Lefty O'Doul: Best ML left fielder.

I'm usually Mr. Negro Leagues around here, but I'm not seeing it this year (though Satchel isn't that far off my ballot, FWIW).
   5. MrC. Posted: October 26, 2020 at 12:20 PM (#5985464)
1932 Ballot
1. Lefty Grove 10.55 WARR
2. Jimmy Foxx 9.87 WARR
3. Babe Herman 8.22 WARR
4. Chuck Klein 8.08 WARR
5. Bill Terry 7.96 WARR
6. Mel Ott 7.61WARR
7. Lou Gehrig 7.46 WARR
8. Babe Ruth 7.35 WARR
9. Carl Hubbell 7.21 WARR
10. Red Ruffing 6.95 WARR

Rest of the top 20
11. Joe Cronin
12. Dizzy Dean
13. Roy Parnell
14. Lefty O'Doul
15. Red Lucas
16. Paul Waner
17. Mickey Cochrane
18. Clint Brown
19. General Crowder
20. Leroy Morney

   6. DL from MN Posted: November 02, 2020 at 02:29 PM (#5987044)
Two more days remaining in this election. We will do 2020 next.
   7. Michael J. Binkley's anxiety closet Posted: November 03, 2020 at 04:06 PM (#5987168)
Evidently this is the 2nd most important ballot I am casting today . . .

1932 MMP Ballot:

1. Jimmie Foxx (30.09)
2. Lefty Grove (29.90) - MMPitcher
3. Satchel Paige (24.88) - NgL MMP
4. Red Ruffing (23.63)
5. Babe Ruth (20.82)
6. Lou Gehrig (18.32)
7. Carl Hubbell (18.22) - NL MMP
8. Joe Cronin (17.10)
9. Mel Ott (17.01) - NL MMPosition Player
10. Bill Terry (16.38)

11-15. Alvin Crowder, Lon Warneke, Wes Ferrell, Chuck Klein, Dizzy Dean.

1932 mWAR All Star Team:
c - Mickey Cochrane
1b - Jimmie Foxx
2b - Tony Lazzeri
ss - Joe Cronin
3b - Jud Wilson
lf - Lefty O'Doul
cf - Turkey Stearnes
rf - Babe Ruth

sp - Lefty Grove
sp - Satchel Paige
sp - Red Ruffing
sp - Carl Hubbell
sp - Alvin Crowder
   8. Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle Posted: November 04, 2020 at 08:19 AM (#5987199)
Final ballot-no postseason credit but some small credit for playing for a Pennant-contender

1. Jimmie Foxx --monster year
2. Lou Gehrig
3. Babe Ruth --missed games edged Lou ahead of the Babe
4. Mel Ott --top NL player
5. Lefty Grove --best pitcher of the era
6. Chuck Klein --helped by playing in a bandbox but still a great season
7. Bill Terry
8. Mickey Cochrane --catcher bonus
9. Lon Warneke --standout pitcher on Cubs Pennant winner & top NL hurler
10.General Alvin Crowder --workhorse pitcher sneaks in

Honorable mention: O'Doul, Hubbell, Cronin, Paige, Babe Herman
   9. Qufini Posted: November 04, 2020 at 02:02 PM (#5987228)
DL, I'm trying to get a ballot together but probably won't have it finished by 4 pm.
   10. Qufini Posted: November 04, 2020 at 03:33 PM (#5987253)
1932 Ballot- just under the wire

1. Jimmie Foxx, 1B, Philadelphia Athletics: monster year with 207 OPS+ and 202 RC
2. Babe Ruth, RF, New York Yankees: 201 OPS+ is not exactly a down year
3. Lou Gehrig, 1B, New York Yankees: Mr. Baggy Pants has a solid third with 181 OPS+ and 161 RC
4. Chuck Klein, RF, Philadelphia Phillies: 164 OPS+ is 2nd in NL; 163 RC is 1st
5. Mel Ott, RF, New York Giants: 174 OPS+ is 1st in NL; 143 RC is 2nd
6. Bill Terry, 1B, New York Giants: 156 OPS+ and +9 fielding
7. Lefty Grove, P, Philadelphia Athletics: best pitcher in MLB with 160 ERA+ in 291 IP
8. Mickey Cochrane, C, Philadelphia Athletics: big year with the bat results in a 134 OPS+
9. Satchel Paige, P, Pittsburgh Crawfords: 195 ERA+ against the top non-league teams
10. Lon Warneke, P, Chicago Cubs: 160 ERA+ ties Grove for the MLB-lead

11. Lefty O'Doul, LF, Brooklyn Dodgers: 3rd in NL with 163 OPS+
12. General Crowder, P, Washington Senators
13. Carl Hubbell, P, New York Giants
14. Babe Herman, RF, Cincinnati Reds
15. Leroy Morney, SS, Memphis Red Sox: best position player in Negro Leagues
16. Roy Parnell, CF, Memphis Red Sox: best outfielder in Negro Leagues
17. Spud Davis, C, Philadelphia Phillies: another catcher wielding a big stick
18. Earl Averill, CF, Cleveland Indians
19. Wes Ferrell, P, Cleveland Indians
t20. Joe Cronin, SS, Washington Senators
t20. Paul Waner, RF, Pittsburgh Pirates
   11. DL from MN Posted: November 05, 2020 at 10:03 AM (#5987354)
Election is over. Ballots are counted. I'll have results up soon.

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