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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Thursday, February 23, 2012Most Meritorious Player: 1969 ResultsThe last ballot counted switched the leaders around for the final time. Congratulations to 1969’s Most Meritorious Player, Reggie Jackson! 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Pts Jackson 4 5 3 169 Petrocelli 2 3 4 3 1 168 McCovey 4 2 1 4 1 159 Gibson 2 3 2 3 1 1 1 154 Aaron 1 2 5 2 1 1 128 Wynn 2 4 2 1 83 Frobinson 1 3 2 2 2 1 83 Killebrew 1 1 3 1 1 2 2 79 Marichal 1 3 3 2 2 78 Bando 1 3 1 2 2 67 Dierker 2 1 2 3 62 Seaver 2 1 1 1 43 Rose 1 2 3 42 McLain 1 1 1 2 35 Hands 1 2 1 1 32 Howard 1 4 1 30 Perez 1 15 Carew 1 13 Jones 1 12 Cuellar 1 10 Clemente 1 6 Bonds 1 5 Carlton 1 5 Santo 1 4 Willie McCovey takes the MMP prize in the NL, while Bob Gibson is the MMPitcher in the NL and Denny McLain in the AL.
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1. Mr Dashwood Posted: February 23, 2012 at 09:23 AM (#4066880)We don't have the critical mass to keep this going when we need to analyze Negro League MLEs or the Federal League. I'm inclined to keep it going until we hit the present day and then shut it down if we can't get more interest.
I was expecting an influx after the HoM ballot. I'm not sure we gained anyone. Either the election cycle is too long, or people just aren't interested.
It's like fantasy baseball, I don't participate in part because I know I'd really enjoy it and might end up spending too much time on it, or else just kind of mail it in because the rest of my life comes first. The former isn't so hot for my job and family, and the latter isn't fair to the rest of you . . . there may be others like me, spectating respectfully but concerned about the time commitment.
If a simple system (I work with spreadsheets every day so I'm no stranger to modeling) is OK, I could be sucked into these threads . .
To pikepredator, most people seem to have a go-to system, like BB-ref WAR, as a basis. Then they look at the close calls by comparing other systems or the plain statistics. I complicate my life by designing my own systems, which sometimes throw up odd answers, like Tony Perez being a better fielder in 1969 than other systems give him credit for.
Why not give it a go one time, and see how much time it takes up?
I think our answer here, even with 13 ballots, is that we couldn't decide on the best player this year (for the first time, I think).
More ballots would be better, but I think we've learned who the best four players are, collectively. That's an interesting answer, to me. Which one comes out on top off 13 or 17 or 25 ballots, well, I think the answer would remain that we're not sure of which of the four was best.
Did Jackson and McCovey really each have one voter who didn't put them in the top 12?
Weird.
Just a few thoughts about my first experience in the MMP voting. Although there seems to some concern about the lack of voters. Ideally, I suppose more voters would be better, but I think that the variety of strategies used to choose the top players gives a good idea of the best players of 1969. There is no guarantee that more voters would separate the top players more than they are now.
Over all I enjoyed the experience, and although my work schedule is quite full right now, I hope to continue to participate in the votes in the future. Thank you.
But I have to say I think it's pretty damn cool how close this election was, with 4 people close together and the top 2 only 1 point apart.
I think there was one previous election where there really wasn't a consensus choice (and that may have ended up also being 1 point separation.. I'm not sure about that, but I believe Koufax won).
Anyway, I'm enjoying the project and do hope that more people join in. I'm kind of hoping that the more I mess about with the MMP project the more likely it is that I will actually manage to construct a HOM ballot.[Oh, and my highest ranked player who didn't receive any votes is Phil Niekro who I placed 14th].
That - plus a little ballot discussion - is about all that is necessary.
If so, count me in! I love these things, especially since it will be almost 20 "years" before my own personal recollections can come into play....it'll allow me to study relatively unfamiliar players and seasons, for at least a little bit.
FWIW, my vote for 1969 would have gone to Jackson...
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