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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Wednesday, April 06, 2016Most Meritorious Player: 1992 DiscussionThe Blue Jays defeat the Braves and become the first “World” Series winner. Bud Selig becomes the “interim” Commissioner of Baseball. Don’t get upset, there’s no crying in baseball. Vote for 13 this year. MLB expansion in November means we will vote for 14 next year. Player SH WS BBR WAR Barry Bonds 41.5 9.0 Ryne Sandberg 32.3 7.8 Darren Daulton 28.5 6.9 Gary Sheffield 33.1 6.2 Frank Thomas 36.0 7.0 Barry Larkin 29.6 5.6 Dave Hollins 25.7 6.1 Andy Van Slyke 35.4 6.0 Larry Walker 26.8 5.4 Tim Raines 26.3 6.3 Mickey Tettleton 26.3 4.9 Ozzie Smith 22.3 5.1 Mark McGwire 30.5 6.4 Carlos Baerga 29.2 6.3 Rickey Henderson 27.0 5.6 Robin Ventura 28.4 5.9 Brady Anderson 27.1 5.2 Mark Grace 24.0 4.2 David Justice 22.6 4.9 Edgar Martinez 26.0 6.5 Steve Finley 28.0 5.7 Ray Lankford 28.4 4.6 Will Clark 26.2 3.8 Shane Mack 27.3 6.5 Jeff Bagwell 28.8 4.7 Chuck Knoblauch 23.9 5.3 Kirby Puckett 29.5 7.1 Jay Bell 22.4 3.9 Terry Pendleton 28.9 5.0 Ken Griffey Jr 23.3 5.8 Roberto Alomar 31.3 6.6 Fred McGriff 28.3 5.2 Tony Gwynn 18.3 4.6 Bip Roberts 25.6 5.0 John Kruk 25.6 4.2 Pat Listach 22.3 4.4 Brett Butler 24.8 4.9 Kenny Lofton 22.9 6.6 Cal Ripken 18.3 4.0 Terry Steinbach 17.6 4.0 Paul Molitor 27.5 4.7 Dave Winfield 25.5 4.1 Pitcher Greg Maddux 26.7 9.4 Roger Clemens 26.2 8.9 Mike Mussina 24.6 8.2 Kevin Appier 20.7 8.1 Sid Fernandez 17.0 6.3 Curt Schilling 16.9 5.9 Jim Abbott 17.8 5.8 Charles Nagy 17.5 6.1 Jack McDowell 19.9 5.3 Juan Guzman 17.8 5.6 Melido Perez 16.0 6.0 Frank Viola 18.1 6.3 Bill Swift 15.6 4.6 Bob Tewksbury 20.9 6.3 Jose Rijo 18.0 5.9 Kevin Brown 18.6 4.8 David Cone 18.8 4.9 Doug Drabek 19.3 5.3 Dennis Martinez 16.6 4.7 Tom Glavine 19.5 4.5 Ken Hill 15.7 4.9 Mike Morgan 20.0 5.2 John Smoltz 18.4 3.8 Mel Rojas 14.6 3.8 Jeff Russell 12.9 3.3 Greg Harris 12.0 3.2 Jeff Montgomery 15.9 3.2 Duane Ward 16.2 3.1 Dennis Eckersley 17.3 2.9 Rod Beck 14.8 2.9 Doug Jones 17.6 2.8 Steve Olin 13.0 2.7
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1. DL from MN Posted: April 06, 2016 at 02:46 PM (#5189930)1. Bonds, B.
2. Sandberg, R.
3. Daulton, D.
4. Maddux, G.
5. Thomas, F.
6. Clemens, R.
7. Sheffield, G.
8. Alomar, R.
9. Van Slyke, A.
10. McGwire, M.
11. Martinez, E.
12. Puckett, K.
13. Lofton, K.
1) Barry Bonds - best bat by 2 wins over Frank Thomas
2) Ryne Sandberg - 2.2 FWAA
3) Darren Daulton - C bonus, better bat than Sandberg
4) Greg Maddux - best P
5) Roger Clemens - fewer IP than Maddux
6) Mike Mussina
7) Gary Sheffield - defense not bad at 3B
8) Kevin Appier
9) Frank Thomas - poor fielding
10) Barry Larkin
11) Dave Hollins
12) Andy Van Slyke
13) Larry Walker - good glove
14-20) Tim Raines, Mickey Tettleton, Ozzie Smith, Mark McGwire, Carlos Baerga, Sid Fernandez, Rickey Henderson
In fact the AL voting (Eckersley, Puckett, Carter, McGwire, Winfield, Alomar, Devereaux, Thomas) only has Thomas in my top 15. Clemens finished 3rd in the CYA to Eckersley and Jack McDowell.
The NL voting looks more reasonable with Barry on top and Sheffield, Walker, Van Slyke and Daulton all getting strong consideration. Maddux won the CYA. Sandberg only finished 12th in MVP voting for a terrific season though.
Still, nobody moves enough to change my ballot.
1. Barry Bonds
2. Greg Maddux - NL MMPitcher
3. Gary Sheffield
4. Ryne Sandberg
5. Roger Clemens - AL MMP
6. Frank Thomas - AL MMPosition Player
7. Barry Larkin
8. Mike Mussina
9. Andy Van Slyke
10. Mark McGwire
11. Rickey Henderson
12. Kevin Appier
13. Edgar Martinez
14-20: Larry Walker, Carlos Baerga, Roberto Alomar, Kirby Puckett, Robin Ventura, Tim Raines, Shane Mack.
22. Darren Daulton. I use BP's defensive numbers for catchers in the PBP era. And BP hates Daulton's defense in general (1993 will be the exception). Had he been average on defense, Daulton would be 9th on my ballot, but BP has him costing almost 13 runs defensively, dropping him down here.
Here's my prelim for the NL side only:
1. Barry Bonds, LF, Pittsburgh Pirates: an all-time great season, 204 OPS+ and 30 RC more than second place
2. Darren Daulton, C, Philadelphia Phillies: a big bat (156 OPS+) and a big catcher bonus
3. Ryne Sandberg, 2B, Chicago Cubs: another great year, 148 OPS+, 117 RC and +9 fielding
4. Greg Maddux, P, Chicago Cubs: 1st in NL in both ERA+ (166) and IP (268)
5. Gary Sheffield, 3B, Milwaukee Brewers: stretched defensively at third (-8 fielding) but the best bat besides Bonds
6. Fred McGriff, 1B, San Diego Padres: 3rd in OPS+, 5th in RC
7. Andy Van Slyke, CF, Pittsburgh Pirates: 150 OPS+ from a defense first position
8. Bob Tewksbury, P, St. Louis Cardinals
9. Dave Hollins, 3B, Philadelphia Phillies: the forgotten man on Philly's beer-league team
10. Barry Larkin, SS, Cincinnati Reds
11. Curt Schilling, P, Philadelphia Phillies
12. Mike Morgan, P, Chicago Cubs
13. Ray Lankford, CF, St. Louis Cardinals: gets onto the ballot thanks to his legs (+11 baserunning)
14. Dennis Martinez, P, Montreal Expos
15. Doug Drabek, P, Pittsburgh Pirates
1. Frank Thomas, 1B, Chicago White Sox: 2nd in OPS+ (174), 1st in RC (142)
2. Roger Clemens, P, Boston Red Sox: 1st in ERA+ with 174 and top five in IP with 246
3. Mark McGwire, 1B, Oakland Athletics
4. Edgar Martinez, 3B/DH, Seattle Mariners: if he was a full-time third baseman, Edgar would have pulled ahead of Big Mac
5. Mike Mussina, P, Baltimore Orioles: great combo of rate (157 ERA+) and bulk (241 IP)
6. Roberto Alomar, 2B, Toronto Blue Jays: top ten in RC and a 130 OPS+ from the keystone
7. Carlos Baerga, 2B, Cleveland Indians: just a nip behind Alomar
8. Kevin Appier, P, Kansas City Royals: 2nd in ERA+ but only 208 IP
9. Kirby Puckett, CF, Minnesota Twins
10. Melido Perez, P, New York Yankees
11. Ken Griffey Jr, CF, Seattle Mariners
12. Charles Nagy, P, Cleveland Indians
13. Paul Molitor, DH, Milwaukee Brewers
14. Shane Mack, LF, Minnesota Twins: Kirby Puckett without the defense
15. Lou Whitaker, 2B, Detroit Tigers
1. Barry Bonds, LF, Pittsburgh Pirates: an all-time great season, 204 OPS+ and 30 RC more than second place
2. Darren Daulton, C, Philadelphia Phillies: a big bat (156 OPS+) and a big catcher bonus
3. Frank Thomas, 1B, Chicago White Sox: 2nd in AL OPS+ (174), 1st in RC (142)
4. Ryne Sandberg, 2B, Chicago Cubs: another great year, 148 OPS+, 117 RC and +9 fielding
5. Greg Maddux, P, Chicago Cubs: 1st in NL in both ERA+ (166) and IP (268)
6. Roger Clemens, P, Boston Red Sox: 1st in AL ERA+ with 174 and top five in IP with 246
7. Gary Sheffield, 3B, Milwaukee Brewers: stretched defensively at third (-8 fielding) but the best bat besides Bonds
7. Mark McGwire, 1B, Oakland Athletics
9. Edgar Martinez, 3B/DH, Seattle Mariners: if he was a full-time third baseman, Edgar would have pulled ahead of Big Mac
10. Fred McGriff, 1B, San Diego Padres: 3rd in OPS+, 5th in RC
11. Andy Van Slyke, CF, Pittsburgh Pirates: 150 OPS+ from a defense first position
12. Mike Mussina, P, Baltimore Orioles: great combo of rate (157 ERA+) and bulk (241 IP)
13. Roberto Alomar, 2B, Toronto Blue Jays: top ten in RC and a 130 OPS+ from the keystone
14. Carlos Baerga, 2B, Cleveland Indians: just a nip behind Alomar
15. Bob Tewksbury, P, St. Louis Cardinals
16. Kevin Appier, P, Kansas City Royals: 2nd in AL ERA+ but only 208 IP
17. Kirby Puckett, CF, Minnesota Twins
18. Dave Hollins, 3B, Philadelphia Phillies: the forgotten man on Philly's beer-league team
19. Barry Larkin, SS, Cincinnati Reds
20. Curt Schilling, P, Philadelphia Phillies
Edit: Oops, entered Mussina twice on the first run-through. The corrected version moves Baerga onto the ballot.
Edit: Oops again. Apparently the other M.M. was Mark McGwire, not Mussina. Adding Big Mac back in knocks Baerga off the ballot once more.
Barry Bonds
Frank Thomas
Andy Van Slyke
Gary Sheffield
Ryne Sandberg
Here are the five best, according to WAR:
Greg Maddux
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Mike Mussina
Kevin Appier
Win Shares has Appier ranked 41st, which is why he’s not on my ballot. WAR has Van Slyke ranked 23rd, which at lest leaves him on the bottom of the ballot. But, still. Which list do you believe? That’s why I use the consensus of the ordinals as my starting point. This year, I only made one change to the consensus list: I switched Thomas and Sandberg, who were ranked 2nd and 3rd by consensus, with totals of ten and 11 consensus points. That, of course, is nothing. Anyway, without further ado here’s the list, for tabulation purposes:
1. Barry Bonds
2. Ryne Sandberg
3. Frank Thomas
4. Kirby Puckett
5. Roberto Alomar
6. Mark McGwire
7. Darren Daulton
8. Greg Maddux
9. Gary Sheffield
10. Carlos Baerga
11. Andy Van Slyke
12. Roger Clemens
13. Shane Mack
I do want to add that I think this is a pretty good list for 1992. If I’d tried to do analysis by myself, I’d have missed Shane Mack, but otherwise, I’d have come up with something a lot like this. I’d probably have switched Clemens and Baerga, leaving Van Slyke in the middle. – Brock Hanke
1. Bonds--best player in baseball for excellent Pittsburgh team
2. Maddux--an amazing season where Maddux becomes Maddux
3. Sandberg--the MMP has shown me that I have underrated Ryno's peak
4. Thomas--AL MMP was close
5. Daulton--"Dutch" Daulton was such a great nickname/last name combo. A Tenace/Tettleton/Porter type high OBP with power catcher having a career year
6. Puckett--just a hair behind Thomas for AL MMP. The Twins followed up both surprise WS wins with strong follow up campaigns. Puckett had career years in both of the follow up campaigns
7. Sheffield--was some what of a Triple Crown contender
8. Alomar--best player on the Jays
9. Mussina--just edges the Rocket, W/L record (gasp) helps
10.Clemens
11.McGwire--finally healthy, Mac leads the declining A's juggernaut to the AL West flag
12.E Martinez --the year Edgar becomes Edgar
13.Baerga--gets lost in the 90's middle infielder shuffle but he was good
Honorable mention:
McGriff--I've got a soft spot for the Crime Dog. Great year, led NL w/35 HRs but just 79 runs scored which shows you how weak the SD batting order was after Fernandez -Gwynn -Sheffield -McGriff
Eck--I was glad he won the MVP Award
Tettleton--low BA kept him just out of the top 13
Teh Jack Morris--21-6 4.04 ERA--obviously proof he pitched to the score lol. I remember rooting against him winning 20 w/4.00 ERA
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