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Most Meritorious Player: 2002 Discussion

The Angels defeated the Giants in the World Series. Vote for 15.

Player			SH WS		BBR WAR
Barry Bonds		47.7		11.8
Alex Rodriguez		32.8		8.8
Jim Thome		37.5		7.4
Vladimir Guerrero	30.6		7.0
Chipper Jones		31.0		5.7
Jim Edmonds		31.5		6.7
Jason Giambi		33.5		7.1
Scott Rolen		24.6		6.5
Jeff Kent		29.7		7.0
Nomar Garciaparra	25.7		6.8
Bobby Abreu		27.0		5.8
Brian Giles		34.0		5.3
Shawn Green		32.1		6.9
Albert Pujols		31.1		5.5
Larry Walker		27.2		6.1
Miguel Tejada		28.4		5.6
Todd Helton		30.8		6.3
David Eckstein		21.0		5.2
Ryan Klesko		29.1		4.2
Edgardo Alfonzo		24.6		5.0
Sammy Sosa		26.3		5.7
Eric Chavez		24.6		4.2
Andruw Jones		28.7		6.6
Lance Berkman		28.1		4.8
Pat Burrell		24.0		4.5
Manny Ramirez		25.2		6.0
Magglio Ordonez		26.4		5.1
Garrett Anderson	23.5		5.1
Jacque Jones		21.9		5.4
Alfonso Soriano		30.0		4.8
Troy Glaus		20.9		4.3
Jose Hernandez		18.6		4.5
Carlos Delgado		25.5		4.9
Austin Kearns		16.3		4.1
Adam Kennedy		19.0		4.7
John Olerud		25.9		5.1
Edgar Renteria		22.9		4.2
Jose Vidro		26.3		5.3
Cliff Floyd		16.3		3.1
Mark Kotsay		22.1		3.2
Carlos Beltran		21.8		4.3
Randy Winn		21.5		4.9
Tim Salmon		20.5		4.0
Robin Ventura		20.3		3.7
Ivan Rodriguez		13.5		3.1
Jorge Posada		19.6		4.0
Johnny Damon		22.6		4.8
Mike Cameron		19.9		3.6
Darin Erstad		18.6		6.4

Pitcher
Randy Johnson		28.8		10.7
Derek Lowe		22.6		7.3
Bartolo Colon		22.0		6.9
Barry Zito		24.7		7.1
Mark Mulder		17.9		4.6
Tim Hudson		22.1		7.0
Pedro Martinez		21.3		6.5
Curt Schilling		23.6		8.6
Roy Halladay		22.0		7.3
Roy Oswalt		19.9		6.9
Paul Byrd		17.6		5.5
Mark Buehrle		17.0		5.0
Kenny Rogers		14.8		5.2
Greg Maddux		19.3		4.6
Elmer Dessens		13.9		4.3
Jamie Moyer		16.1		5.7
Odalis Perez		16.9		5.1
Jeff Weaver		15.0		4.2
Jarrod Washburn		17.7		4.6
Randy Wolf		16.1		4.5
Rodrigo Lopez		14.7		3.7
Wade Miller		13.8		4.6
Kevin Millwood		18.0		4.1
Joel Piniero		14.5		4.7
Matt Clement		12.0		4.0
Russ Ortiz		14.0		4.0
Tom Glavine		19.2		3.7
Mike Mussina		14.8		4.6
	
Octavio Dotel		15.9		4.2
Byung-Hyun Kim		18.9		4.2
Eric Gagne		18.7		3.0

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1. DL from MN Posted: February 28, 2017 at 05:15 PM (#5410361)

2002 Prelim

1) Barry Bonds
2) Alex Rodriguez
3) Randy Johnson
4) Jim Thome
5) Derek Lowe
6) Bartolo Colon
7) Vladimir Guerrero
8) Jim Edmonds
9) Pedro Martinez
10) Curt Schilling
11) Jason Giambi
12) Roy Halladay
13) Tim Hudson
14) Scott Rolen
15) Jeff Kent

16-20) Nomar Garciaparra, Bobby Abreu, Brian Giles, Shawn Green, Albert Pujols
21-25) Larry Walker, Miguel Tejada, Roy Oswalt, Todd Helton, David Eckstein

2. ThickieDon Posted: March 10, 2017 at 12:52 PM (#5415548)

1. Barry Bonds

2. Randy Johnson
3. Alex Rodriguez

4. Jim Thome
5. Curt Schilling
6. Jason Giambi

7. Vladimir Guerrero
8. Jeff Kent
9. Pedro Martinez
10. Roy Halladay
11. Jim Edmonds
12. Brian Giles
13. Scott Rolen
14. Andruw Jones
15. Roy Oswalt

#16-20) Nomar Garciparra, Derek Lowe, Tim Hudson, Barry Zito, Shawn Green
#21-25) Lance Berkman, Chipper Jones, Manny Ramirez, Sammy Sosa, Bartolo Colon
#26-30) Magglio Ordonez, Bobby Abreu, Albert Pujols, Todd Helton, Larry Walker

3. Qufini Posted: March 11, 2017 at 11:43 AM (#5415994)

2002 Prelim Ballot

1. Barry Bonds, LF, San Francisco Giants: lapping the field with a 268 OPS+
2. Alex Rodriguez, SS, Texas Rangers: top 4 OPS+ and RC from shortstop
3. Randy Johnson, P, Arizona Diamondbacks: almost as dominating from the pitcher's mound as Bonds was from the batter's box
4. Jim Thome, 1B, Cleveland Indians: a quietly excellent season, leading AL in OPS+ with 197
5. Jason Giambi, 1B/DH, New York Yankees
6. Pedro Martinez, P, Boston Red Sox: 202 ERA+ is best in the AL
7. Brian Giles, LF, Pittsburgh Pirates
8. Manny Ramirez, LF, Boston Red Sox: Manny Being Manny with a 184 OPS+
9. Vladimir Guerrero, RF, Montreal Expos
10. Derek Lowe, P, Boston Red Sox: 2nd in AL with 177 ERA+
11. Jeff Kent, 2B, San Francisco Giants
12. Todd Helton, 1B, Colorado Rockies
13. Roy Halladay, P, Toronto Blue Jays: something tells me we'll see this name again
14. Nomar Garciaparra, SS, Boston Red Sox: great all-around play, 127 OPS+ and +16 fielding
15. Barry Zito, P, Oakland Athletics: 158 ERA+ in 229 IP

16. Curt Schilling, P, Arizona Diamondbacks
17. Jim Edmonds, CF, St. Louis Cardinals
18. Chipper Jones, LF, Atlanta Braves
19. Sammy Sosa, RF, Chicago Cubs
20. Tim Hudson, P, Oakland Athletics

4. DL from MN Posted: March 27, 2017 at 12:29 PM (#5424134)

ALDS Twins 3 Athletics 2

Player Name  G  AB  R  H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  SO  BA  OBP  SLG  OPS  SB  CS  E  
Eric Chavez 5 21 3 8 0 0 1 5 2 1 .381 .435 .524 .959 0 0 0
Miguel Tejada 5 21 3 3 1 0 1 4 1 7 .143 .174 .333 .507 0 0 1

Pitcher Name  G  GS  ERA  W  L  SV  CG  IP  H  R  ER  BB  SO  WHIP  
Tim Hudson 2 2 6.23 0 1 0 0 8.2 13 11 6 4 8 1.962
Mark Mulder 2 2 2.08 1 1 0 0 13.0 14 3 3 3 12 1.308 
Barry Zito 1 1 4.50 1 0 0 0 6.0 5 3 3 4 8 1.500

5. DL from MN Posted: March 27, 2017 at 12:41 PM (#5424142)

ALDS Angels 3 Yankees 1

Player Name  G  AB  R  H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  SO  BA  OBP  SLG  OPS  SB  CS  E  
Garret Anderson 4 18 5 7 2 0 1 4 1 3 .389 .421 .667 1.088 0 0 0
David Eckstein 4 18 2 5 0 0 0 1 0 0 .278 .316 .278 .594 1 0 0 
Darin Erstad 4 19 4 8 2 0 0 2 0 1 .421 .421 .526 .947 1 0 0
Troy Glaus 4 16 4 5 0 0 3 3 1 3 .313 .389 .875 1.264 0 0 1 
Adam Kennedy 4 8 4 4 1 0 1 3 1 2 .500 .455 1.000 1.455 1 0 0 
Tim Salmon 4 19 3 5 1 0 2 7 1 5 .263 .300 .632 .932 0 0 0 

Jason Giambi 4 14 5 5 0 0 1 3 4 1 .357 .526 .571 1.098 0 0 0
Alfonso Soriano 4 17 2 2 1 0 1 2 1 4 .118 .211 .353 .563 1 0 1 
Robin Ventura 4 14 1 4 2 0 0 4 1 2 .286 .313 .429 .741 0 0 0

Pitcher Name  G  GS  ERA  W  L  SV  CG  IP  H  R  ER  BB  SO  WHIP  
Jarrod Washburn 2 2 3.75 1 0 0 0 12.0 12 6 5 3 4 1.250 

Jeff Weaver 2 0 6.75 0 0 0 0 2.2 4 2 2 3 1 2.625

6. TomH Posted: March 27, 2017 at 12:44 PM (#5424146)

Q from a lost soul who hasn't made time to visit here for a while.....

Player SH WS
Barry Bonds 47.7

Does someone have a list of "highest SH WS seasons"?

The Bill James Win Shares book had Wagner's 1908 as the single best ever performance, and that was in a 154-game schedule.

7. DL from MN Posted: March 27, 2017 at 12:50 PM (#5424148)

NLDS Giants 3 Braves 2

Player Name  G  AB  R  H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  SO  BA  OBP  SLG  OPS  SB  CS  E
Barry Bonds 5 17 5 5 0 0 3 4 4 1 .294 .409 .824 1.233 0 1 1
Jeff Kent 5 19 1 5 2 0 0 1 2 7 .263 .364 .368 .732 0 0 1

Andruw Jones 5 19 4 6 1 0 0 2 2 3 .316 .381 .368 .749 0 0 0
Chipper Jones 5 17 3 5 0 0 0 2 5 2 .294 .455 .294 .749 0 0 0

Pitcher Name  G  GS  ERA  W  L  SV  CG  IP  H  R  ER  BB  SO  WHIP
Russ Ortiz 2 2 2.19 2 0 0 0 12.1 9 3 3 8 8 1.378

Tom Glavine 2 2 15.26 0 2 0 0 7.2 17 13 13 7 4 3.130 
Greg Maddux 1 1 3.00 1 0 0 0 6.0 5 2 2 1 3 1.000 
Kevin Millwood 2 2 3.27 1 1 0 0 11.0 7 4 4 0 14 0.636

8. DL from MN Posted: March 27, 2017 at 01:01 PM (#5424155)

NLDS Cardinals 3 Diamondbacks 0

Player Name  G  AB  R  H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  SO  BA  OBP  SLG  OPS  SB  CS  E  
Jim Edmonds 3 11 1 3 0 0 1 2 2 4 .273 .385 .545 .930 0 1 0
Albert Pujols 3 10 3 3 0 1 0 3 3 1 .300 .462 .500 .962 0 0 1
Edgar Renteria 3 12 3 3 0 0 0 0 1 1 .250 .308 .250 .558 2 0 1

Pitcher Name  G  GS  ERA  W  L  SV  CG  IP  H  R  ER  BB  SO  WHIP
Randy Johnson 1 1 7.50 0 1 0 0 6.0 10 6 5 2 4 2.000 
Byung-Hyun Kim 1 0 18.00 0 0 0 0 1.0 2 2 2 3 0 5.000 
Curt Schilling 1 1 1.29 0 0 0 0 7.0 7 1 1 1 7 1.143

Mike Crudale 1 0 0.00 0 0 0 0 1.0 0 0 0 1 2 1.000

9. DL from MN Posted: March 27, 2017 at 01:10 PM (#5424161)

ALCS Angels 4 Twins 1

Player Name  G  AB  R  H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  SO  BA  OBP  SLG  OPS  SB  CS  E  
Garret Anderson 5 20 3 5 1 0 1 3 1 0 .250 .286 .450 .736 0 1 0
David Eckstein 5 21 1 6 0 0 0 2 0 2 .286 .318 .286 .604 0 0 1
Darin Erstad 5 22 4 8 0 0 1 2 0 3 .364 .364 .500 .864 1 0 0 
Troy Glaus 5 19 4 6 0 1 1 2 2 5 .316 .381 .579 .960 0 0 0
Adam Kennedy 4 14 5 5 0 0 3 5 0 2 .357 .357 1.000 1.357 1 0 0
Tim Salmon 5 14 0 3 0 0 0 0 3 1 .214 .353 .214 .567 0 0 0 

Pitcher Name  G  GS  ERA  W  L  SV  CG  IP  H  R  ER  BB  SO  WHIP
Jarrod Washburn 1 1 1.29 0 0 0 0 7.0 6 1 1 0 7 0.857

Adam ####### Kennedy

10. DL from MN Posted: March 27, 2017 at 01:13 PM (#5424164)

Does someone have a list of "highest SH WS seasons"?

Go to http://seamheads.com/baseballgauge/history.php?tab=players_ss

11. DL from MN Posted: March 27, 2017 at 01:39 PM (#5424176)

NLCS Giants 4 Cardinals 1

Player Name  G  AB  R  H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  SO  BA  OBP  SLG  OPS  SB  CS  E
Barry Bonds 5 11 5 3 0 1 1 6 10 2 .273 .591 .727 1.318 0 0 0 
Jeff Kent 5 19 3 5 0 0 0 0 2 4 .263 .364 .263 .627 0 0 0

Jim Edmonds 5 20 2 8 2 0 1 4 2 5 .400 .455 .650 1.105 0 0 0 
Albert Pujols 5 19 2 5 1 0 1 2 2 5 .263 .364 .474 .837 0 0 0
Edgar Renteria 5 19 0 3 0 0 0 1 0 2 .158 .190 .158 .348 0 0 1

Pitcher Name  G  GS  ERA  W  L  SV  CG  IP  H  R  ER  BB  SO  WHIP
Russ Ortiz 1 1 7.71 0 0 0 0 4.2 5 4 4 3 3 1.714

12. DL from MN Posted: March 27, 2017 at 01:52 PM (#5424182)

World Series Angels 4 Giants 3

Player Name  G  AB  R  H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  SO  BA  OBP  SLG  OPS  SB  CS  E
Garret Anderson 7 32 3 9 1 0 0 6 0 3 .281 .281 .313 .594 0 0 1 
David Eckstein 7 29 6 9 0 0 0 3 3 2 .310 .364 .310 .674 1 0 0
Darin Erstad 7 30 6 9 3 0 1 3 1 4 .300 .313 .500 .813 1 0 1
Troy Glaus 7 26 7 10 3 0 3 8 4 6 .385 .467 .846 1.313 0 0 1
Adam Kennedy 7 25 1 7 2 0 0 2 0 7 .280 .308 .360 .668 0 0 0
Tim Salmon 7 26 7 9 1 0 2 5 4 7 .346 .452 .615 1.067 1 0 1

Barry Bonds 7 17 8 8 2 0 4 6 13 3 .471 .700 1.294 1.994 0 0 1 
Jeff Kent 7 29 6 8 1 0 3 7 1 7 .276 .290 .621 .911 0 0 0

Pitcher Name  G  GS  ERA  W  L  SV  CG  IP  H  R  ER  BB  SO  WHIP
Jarrod Washburn 2 2 9.31 0 2 0 0 9.2 12 10 10 7 6 1.966 

Russ Ortiz 2 2 10.13 0 0 0 0 8.0 13 9 9 2 2 1.875

13. Moeball Posted: March 27, 2017 at 08:19 PM (#5424446)

I apologize, haven’t done these in a while, I kind of got bogged down at work when we were in the early 1900s and I finally can get back to this.

1. B. Bonds – best offensive road season ever, surpassing T. Williams 1957 (worth looking up!)
2. R. Johnson – Best MLB pitcher has unbelievable run of dominance from 1993-2002 culminate in a HOF-clinching season
3. A. Rodriguez – was basically twice as good offensively as any other shortstop in MLB; decent glove, too
4. C. Schilling – are he and Johnson 2001/2002 best 1-2 pair at top of rotation ever?
5. B. Giles – #2 hitter in NL; had some great seasons overshadowed by Bonds/Sosa
6. J. Thome – all this guy does is hit the holy heck out of a baseball; an underappreciated career
7. J. Kent – had about as good a season as he did in winning 2000 MVP but Bonds at an insane level
8. D. Lowe – top AL pitcher in a year when Pedro was only great instead of otherworldly
9. J. Edmonds – best MLB center fielder in middle of outstanding run from 2000-2004
10. S. Sosa – finishing a 5-year run of 292 HRs, best ever; ironically only led league when not hitting 60+ in a season
11. J. Giambi – another great season at the plate; #2 AL hitter behind Thome
12. V. Guerrero – probably best all-around season of career; was above average at hitting, running & fielding
13. R. Halladay – Doc had big breakthrough season, would go on to dominate for a decade
14. R. Oswalt – I admit, at the time I thought he was on his way to a HOF career but injuries shortened it
15. S. Green – big numbers for playing your home games in Dodger Stadium

14. Qufini Posted: April 04, 2017 at 04:25 PM (#5428977)

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