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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Friday, December 08, 2017Most Meritorious Player: 2010 DiscussionGiants beat the Rangers 4 games to 1 in the World Series. Vote for 15. Player Name SH WS bWAR Josh Hamilton 30.2 8.7 Evan Longoria 32.8 8.1 Robinson Cano 35.3 8.1 Adrian Beltre 25.0 7.8 Albert Pujols 32.9 7.5 Brett Gardner 18.7 7.4 Carl Crawford 30.7 7.0 Jose Bautista 32.5 7.0 Joey Votto 30.9 6.9 Troy Tulowitzki 24.9 6.7 Miguel Cabrera 29.9 6.5 Jason Heyward 22.5 6.4 Ryan Zimmerman 22.4 6.2 Carlos Gonzalez 24.9 5.9 Matt Holliday 28.2 5.9 Shin-Soo Choo 26.4 5.9 Joe Mauer 25.5 5.9 Chase Utley 23.0 5.8 Ryan Braun 23.8 5.7 Aubrey Huff 29.0 5.7 Alexei Ramirez 21.5 5.6 Daric Barton 21.4 5.5 Michael Bourn 17.7 5.5 Chris Young 19.4 5.4 Kevin Youkilis 19.3 5.4 Andres Torres 22.4 5.3 Angel Pagan 20.7 5.3 Alex Gonzalez 18.6 5.1 Austin Jackson 18.1 5.1 Martin Prado 24.2 5.0 Justin Morneau 19.9 4.7 Paul Konerko 29.7 4.7 Jay Bruce 19.1 4.7 Ben Zobrist 18.9 4.6 Jayson Werth 28.6 4.5 Cliff Pennington 18.2 4.5 Curtis Granderson 17.5 4.4 Adrian Gonzalez 32.8 4.3 Dan Uggla 26.2 4.3 Kelly Johnson 22.4 4.2 Rafael Furcal 19.3 4.2 Alex Rodriguez 22.0 4.1 Scott Rolen 20.1 4.1 Mark Teixeira 23.5 4.1 Nelson Cruz 19.5 4.1 Carlos Ruiz 18.5 4.0 Buster Posey 19.2 3.9 Rickie Weeks 27.2 3.5 Andrew McCutchen 26.5 3.8 Prince Fielder 26.4 1.5 David Wright 25.7 2.8 Hanley Ramirez 23.9 2.8 Brian McCann 19.9 3.6 Pitcher Name Roy Halladay 24.8 8.1 Ubaldo Jimenez 22.3 7.4 Felix Hernandez 23.6 7.1 Josh Johnson 16.8 6.8 Adam Wainwright 20.4 6.6 Tim Hudson 19.3 6.0 Clay Buchholz 18.2 5.7 Roy Oswalt 18.8 5.6 Jered Weaver 18.7 5.5 John Danks 16.0 5.4 Cole Hamels 16.1 5.4 Jon Lester 17.5 5.2 Clayton Kershaw 15.2 5.1 Johan Santana 15.2 4.9 Brett Myers 18.6 4.8 David Price 17.2 4.8 Cliff Lee 16.6 4.8 Jeremy Guthrie 15.0 4.7 CC Sabathia 18.8 4.7 Francisco Liriano 13.9 4.4 Dan Haren 15.8 4.4 CJ Wilson 15.8 4.4 Matt Cain 14.9 4.3 Justin Verlander 17.8 4.3 Carl Pavano 16.0 4.2 RA Dickey 13.9 4.2 Shaun Marcum 13.8 4.0 Trevor Cahill 16.5 4.0 Mark Buehrle 12.3 4.0 Gio Gonzalez 15.3 4.0 Joakim Soria 14.8 3.7 Hung-Chih Kuo 13.7 3.2 Daniel Bard 11.2 3.2 Brian Wilson 15.4 2.9 Carlos Marmol 14.5 2.9 Billy Wagner 16.9 2.5 Neftali Feliz 14.9 2.3 Heath Bell 14.7 1.9
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1. DL from MN Posted: December 08, 2017 at 11:35 AM (#5588742)1) Evan Longoria (8.4) - DRS loves the glove and he was quite good with the bat.
2) Robinson Cano (7.8) - Big bat at 2B and the glove is decent by DRS accounting. Am considering for 1st as I don't believe the WAR difference is conclusive.
3) Adrian Beltre (7.3) - Nice year at 3B.
4) Roy Halladay (6.7) - Best Pitcher.
5) Josh Hamilton (7.3) - Rates ahead of Pujols for defense and playing 1/3 of his OF time in CF as opposed to Pujols as just 1B. Very close though.
6) Albert Pujols (7.3) - Rates ahead of Joey Bats for defensive reasons.
7) Felix Hernandex (6.5) - Very close to Halladay. WAR not conclusive here.
8) Jose Bautista (7.0) - Best pure hitter in 2010.
9) Troy Tulowitski (6.3) - Best SS, but WAR is enough behind Hamilton, Pujols, and Bautista that I can't rank him ahead of them.
10) Brett Gardner (6.7) - Nice mix of offense and defensive. His best season by a good margin IMO.
11) Carl Crawford (6.4) - Best offensive and overall season of his career.
12) Josh Johnson (6.1) - Forgot how good this guy was. Great ERA and FIP numbers.
13) Joey Votto (6.5) - Nice offensive season.
14) Ubaldo Jimenez (6.0) - Nice ERA and FIP considering his home park. My pick for his best season, though 2008 was quite good too.
15) Adam Wainwright (5.9) - Great ERA and Win numbers. FIP likes him but just not that into him.
Next up (and still considering for back end of ballot): Joe Mauer (5.1), Miguel Cabrera (6.0), Matt Holliday (5.9), Shin-Soo Choo (5.7), Alex Gonzalez (5.8), Cliff Lee (5.8), Ryan Zimmerman (6.0)
Biggest consideration is going to Cliff Lee as he is by far the best pitcher based on 100% FIP WAR.
Honorable mention to the cloud of CFs around 5 WAR (Andres Torres, Angel Pagan, Michael Bourn, Chris Young, Austin Jackson, and Curtis Granderson). It was actual a pretty good year overall for the CF position, but none were great enough to merit MMP consideration.
1) Josh Hamilton - Strong all-around production
2) Roy Halladay - top pitcher, lots of innings
3) Evan Longoria - Another strong all-around year
4) Robinson Cano - Same here
5) Adrian Beltre - Ditto, top performers were not one-dimensional players
6) Ubaldo Jimenez
7) Josh Johnson - Best rate stats
8) Brett Gardner - this is all glove
9) Albert Pujols - within 2 Rbat of the lead
10) Joe Mauer - C bonus
11) Troy Tulowitzki
12) Felix Hernandez - best AL pitcher
13) Jose Bautista
14) Joey Votto - best bat
15) Carl Crawford
16-20) Adam Wainwright, Ryan Zimmerman, Jason Heyward, Chase Utley, Miguel Cabrera
21-25) Tim Hudson, Carlos Gonzalez, Roy Oswalt, Clay Buchholz, Alexei Ramirez
1) Can we consider PED use to discount performance?
2) Can we consider marginal impact on team's pennant chances?
2 - I don't really understand the question
Here are the rules:
Candidate Eligibility: Any North American professional baseball player is eligible for the Most Meritorious Player (MMP) award including players on independent teams. Voters should consider the player’s on-field contribution to Major League Baseball (MLB) team(s) in that season only. If part of the season was spent outside MLB, that value may be considered as well. However, the player’s on-field contribution should be judged in relation to the highest level major league, not relative to a minor league. A season may include playoff or World Series games but does not include spring training or exhibition games. No credit will be given for games not played due to injury, wartime service or contract holdouts.
Ballot Length: For 2010, each voter should rank 15 players.
Voter eligibility: All voters who did not vote in the previous year’s election must post a preliminary ballot in the ballot discussion thread at least 2 days before voting ends. All voters must fill out a complete ballot. Voters must briefly explain their ballot choices. One person, one vote; anyone determined to have voted with multiple accounts will be banned and their votes will be disallowed. The MMP ballot committee has authority to exclude any ballot that does not meet these requirements.
Scoring: Points will be given in descending order with the highest-ranked player receiving 15 points, the second highest 14 points, and so on until the last player on the ballot receives 1 point. The player with the highest point total will be named the Most Meritorious Player. In case of a tie, the tiebreaker will be number of 1st place votes. If the first tiebreaker does not determine a winner the players will share the title of Most Meritorious Player.
Based on my reading of the rules you posted, it seems to me that context can be taken into consideration. What about contracts? Is $/WAR something that we can consider given that there's an opportunity cost associated with higher salary?
Salary would clearly be an off the field consideration. The concept behind the MMP was partly to get rid of the "value" argument of the MVP. We basically deleted everything but bullet 1, 4 and 5 from the MVP award criteria:
Pick the guy you think contributed the most on the field. Who was the best player in baseball in 2010?
1) Evan Longoria: Best player on the AL East champions, mediocre in the postseason
2) Roy Halladay: Best player on the NL East champions, solid in the postseason
3) Joey Votto: Best player on the NL Central champions, although horrible in the postseason
4) Josh Hamilton: Best player on the AL West champions, fantastic ALCS
5) Robinson Cano: Best season by one of the best 2B of all-time, awesome postseason
6) Ubaldo Jimenez: Greatest season ever by a COL pitcher, did not make the postseason
7) Albert Pujols: One of the best NL hitters, did not make the postseason
8) Troy Tulowitski: Best season by the best offensive SS of the decade, did not make the postseason
9) Josh Johnson: Career year by a pitcher who had a very short career, did not make the postseason
10) Brett Gardner: 2nd best player on the AL Wild Card, terrible in the postseason
11) Jose Bautista: The AL "Where-The-Hell-Did-He-Come-From Player of the Year," did not make the postseason
12) Adam Wainwright: Best season by one of the best SP of the decade, did not make the postseason
13) Carl Crawford: 2nd best player on the AL East champions and last good season at 28, terrible postseason
14) Felix Hernandez: One of the best seasons by one of the best SP of the decade, did not make the postseason (101 losses)
15) Miguel Cabrera: Not one of his best seasons but still good to finish 2nd in MVP, did not make the postseason
NL "Where-the-Hell-Did-He-Come-From Player of the Year": Aubrey Huff (finished 20th in the average of pWOPA and WAA), finishing just ahead of teammate Andres Torres
1. Josh Hamilton - AL MMP
2. Albert Pujols - NL MMP
3. Joey Votto
4. Evan Longoria
5. Joey Bautista
6. Robinson Cano
7. Carl Crawford
8. Miguel Cabrera
9. Adrian Beltre
10. Matt Holliday
11. Ryan Zimmerman
12. Shin-Soo Choo
13. Roy Halladay - best pitcher
14. Carlos Gonzalez
15. Cliff Lee - post-season bump
Just missed - Brett Gardner
Big bat, no glove - Paul Konkerko
Others worth mentioning - Jayson Werth, Adrian Gonzalez, Aubrey Huff, Troy Tulowitzki, Felix Hernandez, Ubaldo Jimenez, Ricky Weeks, Andres Torres
1. Felix Hernandez, P, Seattle Mariners: the King earns his crown with a 174 ERA+ in an AL-leading 249 IP
2. Albert Pujols, 1B, St. Louis Cardinals: 173 OPS+ leads NL, +8 fielding pushes him ahead of Votto
3. Josh Hamilton, LF/CF, Texas Rangers: best position player in the AL
4. Joey Votto, 1B, Cincinnati Reds: 144 RC leads the majors but +3 fielding doesn't match Pujols or Hamilton
5. Roy Halladay, P, Philadelphia Phillies: best pitcher in the NL
6. Miguel Cabrera, 1B, Detroit Tigers: AL-leading 178 OPS+ but gives back a fair amount on defense (-5 fielding)
7. Robinson Cano, 2B, New York Yankees: top ten OPS+ (141) and +16 fielding from the keystone
8. Jose Bautista, RF, Toronto Blue Jays: Joey Bats emerges with a 164 OPS+ and 139 Runs Created
9. Adam Wainwright, P, St. Louis Cardinals: 160 ERA+ in 230 IP
10. Troy Tulowitzki, SS, Colorado Rockies: top ten in OPS+ (138) and +19 fielding from shortstop, playing time keeps him behind Cano
11. Ubaldo Jimenez, P, Colorado Rockies: 161 ERA+ in 221 IP
12. Evan Longoria, 3B, Tampa Bay Rays: top ten OPS+ (143) and +20 fielding from the hot corner
13. Clay Buchholz, P, Boston Red Sox: 187 ERA+ leads MLB but low IP (173) hurts his cause
14. Adrian Beltre, 3B, Texas Rangers: nearly identical to Longoria with 141 OPS+ and +19 fielding
15. Josh Johnson, P, Florida Marlins: 180 ERA+ leads NL but low IP (183) hurts his cause
16. Joe Mauer, C/DH, Minnesota Twins: top ten OPS+ (140) while wearing the tools of ignorance
17. Carlos Gonzalez, CF/RF, Colorado Rockies: best Gonzalez this year despite tough competition from Adrian and Gio
18. Matt Holliday, LF, St. Louis Cardinals
19. CC Sabathia, P, New York Yankees
20. Ryan Zimmerman, 3B, Washington Nationals
Lots and lots of variety this year.
1 Evan Longoria
2 Robinson Cano
3 Albert Pujols
4 Roy Halladay
5 Josh Hamilton
6 Joey Votto
7 Jose Bautista
8 Carl Crawford
9 Ubaldo Jimenez
10 Adrian Beltre
11 Felix Hernandez
12 Adrian Gonzales
13 Jason Werth
14 Cliff Lee
15 CC Sabathia
Honorable mentions:
Brett Gardner
Ryan Zimmerman
Tim Hudson
Josh Johnson
Miggy
David Ortiz
Yes, but Cano had the same RBat as Heyward at a more premium position. I think he does positional adjustments based on offense output.
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