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Most Meritorious Player: 2018 Discussion

The election will take place after the postseason is completed and end 5, December 2018. Vote for 15.

Player			WS	bWAR
Mookie Betts		38.8	10.9
Mike Trout		38.2	10.2
Matt Chapman		25.6	8.2
Francisco Lindor	31.6	7.9
Jose Ramirez		29.8	7.9
Christian Yelich	34.5	7.6
Lorenzo Cain		24.9	6.9
Alex Bregman		35.5	6.9
J.D. Martinez		31.9	6.4
Javier Baez		26.1	6.3
Andrelton Simmons	20.5	6.2
Mitch Haniger		29.5	6.1
Freddie Freeman		26.6	6.1
Manny Machado		27.5	5.7
Nolan Arenado		28.2	5.6
Trevor Story		28.0	5.6
Whit Merrifield		22.7	5.5
Aaron Judge		20.4	5.5
Paul Goldschmidt	26.0	5.4
Jose Altuve		24.9	5.2
Matt Carpenter		30.9	4.9
Jed Lowrie		25.9	4.8
Aaron Hicks		21.6	4.7
Justin Turner		19.1	4.5
Brandon Nimmo		22.7	4.4
Jean Segura		22.9	4.3
Matt Olson		20.1	4.3
Joey Wendle		20.1	4.3
J.T. Realmuto		25.7	4.3
Marcus Semien		19.7	4.3
Max Muncy		21.3	4.2
Anthony Rendon		23.3	4.2
Didi Gregorius		23.6	4.2
Eugenio Suarez		20.3	4.2
Cody Bellinger		19.8	4.2
Scooter Gennett		21.5	4.2
Chris Taylor		17.6	4.1
Trea Turner		23.2	4.1
Ronald Acuna		20.1	4.1
Travis Shaw		20.8	4.1
Giancarlo Stanton	21.5	4.0
Shohei Otani		18.4	3.9
Paul DeJong		15.1	3.8
Andrew Benintendi	23.7	3.9
Ozzie Albies		19.6	3.8
Xander Bogaerts		25.5	3.8
Nick Castellanos	25.3	2.9
Charlie Blackmon	24.6	0.8
Rhys Hoskins		23.0	0.5
Bryce Harper		22.9	1.3

Pitcher 		WS	WAR
Jacob deGrom		20.4	10.0
Aaron Nola		21.4	10.0
Max Scherzer		19.7	9.5
Kyle Freeland		20.3	8.2
Blake Snell		21.1	7.5
Chris Sale		17.7	6.9
Justin Verlander	18.4	6.3
Corey Kluber		19.7	5.8
Trevor Bauer		17.9	5.7
German Marquez		14.4	5.3
Mike Clevinger		16.7	5.2
Gerrit Cole		15.7	5.1
Zack Greinke		15.7	4.8
Patrick Corbin		15.4	4.8
Luis Severino		15.6	4.7
David Price		13.4	4.4
Jameson Taillon		14.0	4.4
Miles Mikolas		16.2	4.3
Zach Wheeler		11.6	4.2
Clayton Kershaw		11.2	4.0
Noah Syndergaard	11.3	4.0
Kyle Gibson		12.2	3.9
Carlos Carrasco		15.0	3.9
Jose Berrios		11.8	3.8
Cole Hamels		10.9	3.8
Walker Buehler		9.8	3.5
Charlie Morton		12.7	3.5
Mike Foltynewicz	13.6	3.4
Jon Lester		13.2	3.3

Blake Treinen		19.4	4.3
Edwin Diaz		18.8	3.2
Jeremy Jeffress		15.6	3.4
Jared Hughes		10.1	3.3
Adam Ottavino		15.0	2.6
Josh Hader		14.6	2.2
Craig Kimbrel		14.2	2.3

 

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   1. DL from MN Posted: October 12, 2018 at 02:53 PM (#5765231)
Thought I should get this up for prelim ballots before the playoffs

   2. Qufini Posted: October 12, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5765301)
Good call. At a quick glance, I have Trout ahead of Betts for the number one slot. That may change when I run through the numbers more in depth.
   3. lieiam Posted: October 14, 2018 at 04:04 PM (#5766249)
Here's my prelim ballot.
I haven't posted here in quite a while but this is my old "uber-stat blender" method.
Slight catcher bonus given.

1 BETTS, MOOKIE 9809
2 TROUT, MIKE 9335
3 BREGMAN, ALEX 7861
4 DEGROM, JACOB 7619
5 YELICH, CHRISTIAN 7541
6 RAMIREZ, JOSE 7143
7 LINDOR, FRANCISCO 7026
8 CHAPMAN, MATT 6766
9 MARTINEZ, J.D. 6725
10 SCHERZER, MAX 6650
11 NOLA, AARON 6573
12 HANIGER, MITCH 6032
13 CARPENTER, MATT 6018
14 SNELL, BLAKE 5982
15 MACHADO, MANNY 5765

16 SALE, CHRIS 5744
17 BAEZ, JAVIER 5708
18 ARENADO, NOLAN 5687
19 VERLANDER, JUSTIN 5685
20 CAIN, LORENZO 5684
   4. Michael J. Binkley's anxiety closet Posted: October 14, 2018 at 10:41 PM (#5766501)
My pre-postseason bonus ballot:

1. Mookie Betts
2. Mike Trout
3. Jacob DeGrom
4. Christian Yelich
5. Jose Ramirez
6. Matt Chapman
7. Alex Bregman
8. Francisco Lindor
9. J.D. Martinez
10. Chris Sale
11. Max Scherzer
12. Aaron Nola
13. Javier Baez
14. Blake Snell
15. Lorenzo Cain

16-20. Justin Verlander, Trevor Bauer, Mitch Haniger, Matt Carpenter, Freddie Freeman.
   5. SavoyBG Posted: October 25, 2018 at 10:16 AM (#5774910)
My picks for Player and Pitcher of the Year in each league for every season:


1871 NA - Levi Meyerle ---- George Zettlein
1872 NA - Ross Barnes ----- Al Spalding
1873 NA - Ross Barnes ----- Bobby Mathews
1874 NA - Cal McVey ------- Al Spalding
1875 NA - Ross Barnes ----- Al Spalding
1876 NL - Ross Barnes ----- George Bradley
1877 NL - Deacon White ---- Tommy Bond
1878 NL - Paul Hines ------ Tommy Bond
1879 NL - Charley Jones --- Tommy Bond
1880 NL - George Gore ----- Jim McCormick
1881 NL - Cap Anson ------- George Derby
1882 NL - Dan Brouthers --- Jim McCormick
1882 AA - Pete Browning --- Will White
1883 NL - Dan Brouthers --- Old Hoss Radbourn
1883 AA - Harry Stovey ---- Tim Keefe
1884 NL - King Kelly ------ Old Hoss Radbourn
1884 AA - Dave Orr -------- Guy Hecker
1884 UA - Fred Dunlap ----- Jim McCormick
1885 NL - Roger Connor ---- John Clarkson
1885 AA - Pete Browning --- Bob Caruthers
1886 NL - King Kelly ------ Lady Baldwin
1886 AA - Bob Caruthers --- Dave Foutz
1887 NL - Sam Thompson ---- John Clarkson
1887 AA - Tip O'Neill ----- Matt Kilroy
1888 NL - Jimmy Ryan ------ Tim Keefe
1888 AA - John Reilly ----- Silver King
1889 NL - Jack Glasscock -- John Clarkson
1889 AA - Harry Stovey ---- Jesse Duryea
1890 NL - Jack Glasscock -- Billy Rhines
1890 AA - Cupid Childs ---- Scott Stratton
1890 PL - Roger Connor ---- Silver King
1891 NL - Billy Hamilton -- Kid Nichols
1891 AA - Hugh Duffy ------ George Haddock
1892 NL - Dan Brouthers --- Cy Young
1893 NL - Ed Delahanty ---- Amos Rusie
1894 NL - Hugh Duffy ------ Amos Rusie
1895 NL - Hughie Jennings - Cy Young
1896 NL - Hughie Jennings - Kid Nichols
1897 NL - Willie Keeler --- Kid Nichols
1898 NL - Jimmy Collins --- Kid Nichols
1899 NL - Ed Delahanty ---- Vic Willis
1900 NL - Honus Wagner ---- Joe McGinnity
1901 NL - Jesse Burkett --- Al Orth
1901 AL - Nap Lajoie ------ Cy Young
1902 NL - Honus Wagner ---- Jack W. Taylor
1902 AL - Ed Delahanty ---- Cy Young
1903 NL - Honus Wagner ---- Sam Leever
1903 AL - Nap Lajoie ------ Cy Young
1904 NL - Honus Wagner ---- Joe McGinnity
1904 AL - Nap Lajoie ------ Jack Chesbro
1905 NL - Cy Seymour ------ Christy Mathewson
1905 AL - Harry Davis ----- Rube Waddell
1906 NL - Honus Wagner ---- Three Finger Brown
1906 AL - Nap Lajoie ------ Addie Joss
1907 NL - Honus Wagner ---- Orval Overall
1907 AL - Ty Cobb --------- Ed Walsh
1908 NL - Honus Wagner ---- Christy Mathewson
1908 AL - Ty Cobb --------- Ed Walsh
1909 NL - Honus Wagner ---- Three Finger Brown
1909 AL - Ty Cobb --------- Frank Smith
1910 NL - Sherry Magee ---- Christy Mathewson
1910 AL - Nap Lajoie ------ Jack Coombs
1911 NL - Frank Schulte --- Christy Mathewson
1911 AL - Ty Cobb --------- Walter Johnson
1912 NL - Heinie Zimmerman - Nap Rucker
1912 AL - Tris Speaker ---- Walter Johnson
1913 NL - Gavvy Cravath --- Christy Mathewson
1913 AL - Eddie Collins --- Walter Johnson
1914 NL - Rabbit Maranville - Bill James
1914 AL - Eddie Collins --- Dutch Leonard
1914 FL - Benny Kauff ----- Claude Hendrix
1915 NL - Gavvy Cravath --- Grover Cleveland Alexander
1915 AL - Ty Cobb --------- Walter Johnson
1915 FL - Benny Kauff ----- Dave Davenport
1916 NL - Zack Wheat ------ Grover Cleveland Alexander
1916 AL - Tris Speaker ---- Babe Ruth
1917 NL - Rogers Hornsby -- Grover Cleveland Alexander
1917 AL - Ty Cobb --------- Eddie Cicotte
1918 NL - Heinie Groh ----- Hippo Vaughn
1918 AL - Babe Ruth ------- Walter Johnson
1919 NL - George J. Burns - Hippo Vaughn
1919 AL - Babe Ruth ------- Walter Johnson
1920 NL - Rogers Hornsby -- Grover Cleveland Alexander
1920 AL - Babe Ruth ------- Stan Coveleski
1921 NL - Rogers Hornsby -- Burleigh Grimes
1921 AL - Babe Ruth ------- Red Faber
1922 NL - Rogers Hornsby -- Wilbur Cooper
1922 AL - George Sisler --- Red Faber
1923 NL - Frankie Frisch -- Dolf Luque
1923 AL - Babe Ruth ------- George Uhle
1924 NL - Rogers Hornsby -- Dazzy Vance
1924 AL - Babe Ruth ------- Walter Johnson
1925 NL - Rogers Hornsby -- Eppa Rixey
1925 AL - Al Simmons ------ Stan Coveleski
1926 NL - Hack Wilson ----- Ray Kremer
1926 AL - Babe Ruth ------- George Uhle
1927 NL - Paul Waner ------ Jesse Haines
1927 AL - Lou Gehrig ------ Wilcy Moore
1928 NL - Jim Bottomley --- Dazzy Vance
1928 AL - Babe Ruth ------- Lefty Grove
1929 NL - Rogers Hornsby -- Charlie Root
1929 AL - Al Simmons ------ Lefty Grove
1930 NL - Hack Wilson ----- Dazzy Vance
1930 AL - Babe Ruth ------- Lefty Grove
1931 NL - Bill Terry ------ Bill Walker
1931 AL - Lou Gehrig ------ Lefty Grove
1932 NL - Chuck Klein ----- Lon Warneke
1932 AL - Jimmie Foxx ----- Lefty Grove
1933 NL - Chuck Klein ----- Carl Hubbell
1933 AL - Jimmie Foxx ----- Lefty Grove
1934 NL - Mel Ott --------- Dizzy Dean
1934 AL - Lou Gehrig ------ Lefty Gomez
1935 NL - Arky Vaughan ---- Cy Blanton
1935 AL - Hank Greenberg -- Wes Ferrell
1936 NL - Mel Ott --------- Carl Hubbell
1936 AL - Lou Gehrig ------ Lefty Grove
1937 NL - Joe Medwick ----- Jim Turner
1937 AL - Joe DiMaggio ---- Lefty Gomez
1938 NL - Mel Ott --------- Bill Lee
1938 AL - Jimmie Foxx ----- Red Ruffing
1939 NL - Johnny Mize ----- Bucky Walters
1939 AL - Joe DiMaggio ---- Bob Feller
1940 NL - Johnny Mize ----- Bucky Walters
1940 AL - Hank Greenberg -- Bob Feller
1941 NL - Pete Reiser ----- Whit Wyatt
1941 AL - Ted Williams ---- Thornton Lee
1942 NL - Enos Slaughter -- Mort Cooper
1942 AL - Ted Williams ---- Tiny Bonham
1943 NL - Stan Musial ----- Mort Cooper
1943 AL - Luke Appling ---- Spud Chandler
1944 NL - Stan Musial ----- Bucky Walters
1944 AL - Snuffy Stirnweiss - Dizzy Trout
1945 NL - Tommy Holmes ---- Hank Wyse
1945 AL - Snuffy Stirnweiss - Hal Newhouser
1946 NL - Stan Musial ----- Howie Pollet
1946 AL - Ted Williams ---- Hal Newhouser
1947 NL - Johnny Mize ----- Warren Spahn
1947 AL - Ted Williams ---- Bob Feller
1948 NL - Stan Musial ----- Harry Brecheen
1948 AL - Lou Boudreau ---- Gene Bearden
1949 NL - Jackie Robinson - Howie Pollet
1949 AL - Ted Williams ---- Mel Parnell
1950 NL - Del Ennis ------- Jim Konstanty
1950 AL - Phil Rizzuto ---- Early Wynn
1951 NL - Roy Campanella -- Sal Maglie
1951 AL - Yogi Berra ------ Ed Lopat
1952 NL - Jackie Robinson - Robin Roberts
1952 AL - Yogi Berra ------ Bobby Shantz
1953 NL - Roy Campanella -- Warren Spahn
1953 AL - Al Rosen -------- Billy Pierce
1954 NL - Willie Mays ----- Johnny Antonelli
1954 AL - Yogi Berra ------ Mike Garcia
1955 NL - Willie Mays ----- Robin Roberts
1955 AL - Mickey Mantle --- Billy Pierce
1956 NL - Duke Snider ----- Don Newcombe
1956 AL - Mickey Mantle --- Herb Score
1957 NL - Hank Aaron ------ Don Drysdale
1957 AL - Mickey Mantle --- Jim Bunning
1958 NL - Willie Mays ----- Lew Burdette
1958 AL - Mickey Mantle --- Whitey Ford
1959 NL - Hank Aaron ------ Sad Sam Jones
1959 AL - Mickey Mantle --- Hoyt Wilhelm
1960 NL - Eddie Mathews --- Ernie Broglio
1960 AL - Mickey Mantle --- Jim Bunning
1961 NL - Frank Robinson -- Warren Spahn
1961 AL - Mickey Mantle --- Frank Lary
1962 NL - Willie Mays ----- Bob Purkey
1962 AL - Mickey Mantle --- Hank Aguirre
1963 NL - Hank Aaron ------ Sandy Koufax
1963 AL - Elston Howard --- Gary Peters
1964 NL - Willie Mays ----- Don Drysdale
1964 AL - Brooks Robinson - Dean Chance
1965 NL - Willie Mays ----- Juan Marichal
1965 AL - Zoilo Versalles - Sam McDowell
1966 NL - Richie Allen ---- Sandy Koufax
1966 AL - Frank Robinson -- Jim Kaat
1967 NL - Roberto Clemente - Jim Bunning
1967 AL - Carl Yastrzemski - Joe Horlen
1968 NL - Willie McCovey -- Bob Gibson
1968 AL - Bill Freehan ---- Denny McLain
1969 NL - Willie McCovey -- Tom Seaver
1969 AL - Reggie Jackson -- Mike Cuellar
1970 NL - Johnny Bench ---- Tom Seaver
1970 AL - Carl Yastrzemski - Jim Palmer
1971 NL - Willie Stargell - Tom Seaver
1971 AL - Bobby Murcer ---- Vida Blue
1972 NL - Johnny Bench ---- Steve Carlton
1972 AL - Dick Allen ------ Gaylord Perry
1973 NL - Joe Morgan ------ Tom Seaver
1973 AL - Reggie Jackson -- Bert Blyleven
1974 NL - Joe Morgan ------ Phil Niekro
1974 AL - Rod Carew ------- Gaylord Perry
1975 NL - Joe Morgan ------ Randy Jones
1975 AL - Fred Lynn ------- Jim Palmer
1976 NL - Joe Morgan ------ Jerry Koosman
1976 AL - Graig Nettles --- Vida Blue
1977 NL - George Foster --- Steve Carlton
1977 AL - Rod Carew ------- Frank Tanana
1978 NL - Dave Parker ----- Phil Niekro
1978 AL - Jim Rice -------- Ron Guidry
1979 NL - Mike Schmidt ---- J.R. Richard
1979 AL - Fred Lynn ------- Ron Guidry
1980 NL - Mike Schmidt ---- Steve Carlton
1980 AL - George Brett ---- Mike Norris
1981 NL - Mike Schmidt ---- Nolan Ryan
1981 AL - Dwight Evans ---- Steve McCatty
1982 NL - Gary Carter ----- Steve Rogers
1982 AL - Robin Yount ----- Dave Stieb
1983 NL - Dale Murphy ----- John Denny
1983 AL - Cal Ripken Jr. -- Dave Stieb
1984 NL - Ryne Sandberg --- Dwight Gooden
1984 AL - Cal Ripken Jr. -- Willie Hernandez
1985 NL - Willie McGee ---- Dwight Gooden
1985 AL - Rickey Henderson - Dave Stieb
1986 NL - Mike Schmidt ---- Mike Scott
1986 AL - Don Mattingly --- Roger Clemens
1987 NL - Eric Davis ------ Bob Welch
1987 AL - Alan Trammell --- Roger Clemens
1988 NL - Darryl Strawberry - Orel Hershiser
1988 AL - Jose Canseco ---- Frank Viola
1989 NL - Will Clark ------ Orel Hershiser
1989 AL - Robin Yount ----- Bret Saberhagen
1990 NL - Barry Bonds ----- Frank Viola
1990 AL - Rickey Henderson - Roger Clemens
1991 NL - Barry Bonds ----- Tom Glavine
1991 AL - Cal Ripken Jr. -- Roger Clemens
1992 NL - Barry Bonds ----- Greg Maddux
1992 AL - Frank Thomas ---- Roger Clemens
1993 NL - Barry Bonds ----- Greg Maddux
1993 AL - John Olerud ----- Kevin Appier
1994 NL - Jeff Bagwell ---- Greg Maddux
1994 AL - Frank Thomas ---- David Cone
1995 NL - Barry Bonds ----- Greg Maddux
1995 AL - Albert Belle ---- Randy Johnson
1996 NL - Ken Caminiti ---- Kevin Brown
1996 AL - Alex Rodriguez -- Pat Hentgen
1997 NL - Mike Piazza ----- Pedro Martinez
1997 AL - Ken Griffey Jr. - Roger Clemens
1998 NL - Mark McGwire ---- Greg Maddux
1998 AL - Albert Belle ---- Roger Clemens
1999 NL - Jeff Bagwell ---- Randy Johnson
1999 AL - Roberto Alomar -- Pedro Martinez
2000 NL - Barry Bonds ----- Randy Johnson
2000 AL - Alex Rodriguez -- Pedro Martinez
2001 NL - Barry Bonds ----- Randy Johnson
2001 AL - Alex Rodriguez -- Mike Mussina
2002 NL - Barry Bonds ----- Randy Johnson
2002 AL - Alex Rodriguez -- Pedro Martinez
2003 NL - Albert Pujols --- Jason Schmidt
2003 AL - Alex Rodriguez -- Roy Halladay
2004 NL - Barry Bonds ----- Randy Johnson
2004 AL - Vladimir Guerrero - Johan Santana
2005 NL - Albert Pujols --- Dontrelle Willis
2005 AL - Alex Rodriguez -- Johan Santana
2006 NL - Albert Pujols --- Brandon Webb
2006 AL - David Ortiz ----- Johan Santana
2007 NL - Chipper Jones --- Brandon Webb
2007 AL - Alex Rodriguez -- John Lackey
2008 NL - Albert Pujols --- Tim Lincecum
2008 AL - Josh Hamilton --- Cliff Lee
2009 NL - Albert Pujols --- Chris Carpenter
2009 AL - Joe Mauer ------- Zack Greinke
2010 NL - Joey Votto ------ Roy Halladay
2010 AL - Jose Bautista --- Clay Buchholz
2011 NL - Matt Kemp ------- Roy Halladay
2011 AL - Jacoby Ellsbury - Justin Verlander
2012 NL - Buster Posey ---- R.A. Dickey
2012 AL - Miguel Cabrera -- Justin Verlander
2013 NL - Paul Goldschmidt - Clayton Kershaw
2013 AL - Mike Trout ------ Max Scherzer
2014 NL - Giancarlo Stanton - Clayton Kershaw
2014 AL - Mike Trout ------ Corey Kluber
2015 NL - Bryce Harper ---- Zack Greinke
2015 AL - Josh Donaldson -- David Price
2016 NL - Kris Bryant ----- Jon Lester
2016 AL - Mike Trout ------ Rick Porcello
2017 NL - Giancarlo Stanton - Max Scherzer
2017 AL - Jose Altuve ----- Corey Kluber
2018 NL - Christian Yelich - Jacob deGrom
2018 AL - Mookie Betts ---- Blake Snell



   6. DL from MN Posted: October 29, 2018 at 05:23 PM (#5779165)
Prelim ballot - no postseason, first draft of fielding numbers

1) Mookie Betts - tied with Trout at the plate but more glove
2) Aaron Nola - surprised me a little
3) Mike Trout
4) Jacob deGrom
5) Max Scherzer - NL pitcher heavy ballot for me
6) Kyle Freeland
7) Matt Chapman - fantastic fielder
8) Francisco Lindor
9) Jose Ramirez
10) Blake Snell - top AL pitcher
11) Christian Yelich - top NL position player. Best position players were in the AL, best pitchers in the NL.
12) Chris Sale - rate production is outstanding despite limited innings
13) Lorenzo Cain
14) Alex Bregman
15) Javier Baez - it will be a fight for the last ballot slot

16-20) Andrelton Simmons, Justin Verlander, Trevor Bauer, Corey Kluber, Manny Machado
21-25) JD Martinez, Trevor Story, Mitch Haniger, Nolan Arenado, Freddie Freeman
   7. Qufini Posted: November 01, 2018 at 09:38 AM (#5780589)
2018 Prelim Ballot

1. Mike Trout, CF, Los Angeles Angels: MLB-leading 199 OPS+ and +8 defense in CF
2. Mookie Betts, RF, Boston Red Sox: MLB-leading 156 RC and +26 defense in RF
3. Jacob DeGrom, P, New York Mets: the best player in the NL with 216 EAR+ in 217 IP
4. Blake Snell, P, Tampa Bay Rays: 219 ERA+ leads MLB although the 180 IP doesn't even crack the top ten in the AL
5. Jose Ramirez, 3B/2B, Cleveland Indians: 150 OPS+ and +3 fielding splitting time between second and third
6. Francisco Lindor, SS, Cleveland Indians: 131 OPS+ and +14 fielding at short
7. Christian Yelich, LF/RF, Milwaukee Brewers: best position player in NL with 164 OPS+ and +4 defense
8. J.D. Martinez, DH, Boston Red Sox: 173 OPS+ and 141 RC
9. Alex Bregman, 3B/SS, Houston Astros: 156 OPS+ is nice, -7 fielding not so much
10. Manny Machado, SS/3B, Baltimore/Los Angeles: 146 OPS+ and 120 RC across both leagues, raised his D to -10 after time in LA
11. Trevor Bauer, P, Cleveland Indians: surprised to see him but 198 ERA+ is hard to ignore
12. Aaron Nola, P, Philadelphia Phillies: 175 ERA+ in 212 IP
13. Max Scherzer, P, Washington Nationals: 168 ERA+ in MLB leading 220 innings
14. Trevor Story, SS, Colorado Rockies: 127 OPS+ and 118 RC while holding his own at short (+1 fielding)
15. Matt Chapman, 3B, Oakland Athletcis: 126 OPS+ and an amazing +29 fielding

16. Nolan Arenado, 3B, Colorado Rockies: 133 OPS+ but only +5 fielding this season
17. Matt Carpenter, 1B/3B, St. Louis Cardinals
18. Freddy Freeman, 1B, Atlanta Braves
19. Justin Verlander, P, Houston Astros
20. Javier Baez, SS/2B, Chicago Cubs
21. Kyle Freeland, P, Colorado Rockies
22. Paul Goldschmidt, 1B, Arizona Diamondbacks
23. Corey Kluber, P, Cleveland Indians
24. Anthony Rendon, 3B, Washington Nationals
25. Mitch Haniger, RF, Seattle Mariners
   8. Kiko Sakata Posted: November 20, 2018 at 07:50 PM (#5789862)
If anybody's interested in using them, I've updated my Player won-lost records to include 2018. They're preliminary - they'll change once I incorporate revisions to earlier seasons from Retrosheet's latest release - but I don't expect them to change much. Here's top 25's in context (pWins tie to team wins) and context-neutral (eWins). You can build your own weighted-average "uber-stat" here (type in whatever weights you want and click "Go").
   9. Tom and Shivs couples counselor Posted: November 20, 2018 at 09:02 PM (#5789882)
7–where does Lorenzo Cain sit? Asking as most metrics had him pretty high for NL position players
   10. Carl Goetz Posted: November 21, 2018 at 12:03 PM (#5790032)
1 Mookie Betts (10.1 WAR) - My DRS/DRA combo WAR at Baseball Gauge rates him at a full win ahead of Trout defensively and only a half win behind on offense. On a per game basis, I think Trout was slightly better, but in total, I'm going with Mookie. In my mind, Betts, Trout, and DeGrom are all reasonable winners with significant overlaps in the WAR confidence intervals.
2 Jacob DeGrom (9.8)
3 Mike Trout (9.1)
4 Max Scherzer (8.9)
5 Aaron Nola (8.7)
6 Alex Bregman (7.9)
7 Matt Chapman (8.2) - I rated Chapman behind Bregman due to my hesitation on relying fully on his defensive numbers. Bregman had a lot more offensive value, which I trust more.
8 Christian Yelich (7.1)
9 Jose Ramirez (7.4)
10 Kyle Freeland (7.0)
11 Francisco Lindor (6.9)
12 Blake Snell (6.8)
13 J T Realmuto (4.9) - Slots in here after my bump for catching.
14 JD Martinez (6.6)
15 Lorenzo Cain (6.5)
16 Mitch Haniger (6.4)
17 Chris Sale (6.6) - Bumped back a little due to a lot of pitchers in top 12. Had he and Bauer not gotten hurt, I believe AL Cy Young was between the 2 of them.
18 Justin Verlander (6.2)
19 Javy Baez (6.2)
20 Andrelton Simmons (6.1)
21 Manny Machado (5.9)
22 Trevor Bauer (5.8)
23 Paul Goldschmidt (5.9)
24 Nolan Arenado (5.7)
25 Corey Kluber (5.6)
26 Trevor Story (5.7)
27 Freddie Freeman (5.5)

I think that covers everyone under reasonable consideration.
My All-Me team would be:
SP DeGrom ; RP Treinen; DH Martinez; 1B Goldschmidt; 2B Baez; 3B Chapman; SS Lindor ; LF Yelich; CF Trout; RF Betts
   11. Qufini Posted: November 26, 2018 at 04:53 PM (#5791244)
7–where does Lorenzo Cain sit? Asking as most metrics had him pretty high for NL position players

He's several spots shy of the top 25. Cain just didn't do enough offensively for me. (And yes, I was aware of the discrepancy.)

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