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Thursday, October 07, 2021

Most Meritorious Player: 2021 Discussion

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Player			bWAR
Carlos Correa		7.2
Marcus Semien		7.1
Juan Soto		7.0
Vladimir Guerrero Jr	6.8
Jose Ramirez		6.7
Fernando Tatis Jr	6.6
Trea Turner		6.5
Tyler O'Neill		6.3
Paul Goldschmidt	6.2
Austin Riley		6.1
Brandon Crawford	6.1
Bo Bichette		6.0
Bryan Reynolds		6.0
Aaron Judge		5.9
Bryce Harper		5.9
Matt Olson		5.8
Kyle Tucker		5.7
Cedric Mullins		5.7
Salvador Perez		5.3
Manny Machado		5.1
Max Muncy		4.9
Shohei Otani		4.9*
Xander Bogaerts		4.9
Enrique Hernandez	4.9
Jake Cronenworth	4.8
Jorge Polanco		4.8
Brandon Lowe		4.8
Starling Marte		4.7
Freddie Freeman		4.7
Joey Gallo		4.6
Tim Anderson		4.6
Javier Baez		4.5
Byron Buxton		4.5
Jose Altuve		4.4
Pete Alonso		4.3
Nicky Lopez		4.2
Ty France		4.2
Trevor Story		4.2
Randy Arozarena		4.2
Willy Adames		4.2
Nolan Arenado		4.2
Mookie Betts		4.2
Willson Contreras	4.1
Yoan Moncada		4.0
Isaiah Kiner-Falefa	4.0
Adam Frazier		4.0
Teoscar Hernandez	4.0

Pitcher 		bWAR
Zack Wheeler		7.6
Walker Buehler		6.7
Robbie Ray		6.7
Max Scherzer		6.0
Wade Miley		5.7
Gerrit Cole		5.6
Ranger Suarez		5.6
Brandon Woodruff	5.6
Corbin Burnes		5.6
Lance Lynn		5.4
Tyler Mahle		5.3
Kevin Gausman		5.2
Carlos Rodon		5.1
Luis Castillo		4.7
Max Fried		4.7
Nathan Eovaldi		4.6
Julio Urias		4.4
Jacob deGrom		4.4
Lucas Giolito		4.2
Charlie Morton		4.2
Sandy Alcantara		4.1
Shohei Otani		4.1*
Anthony DeSclafini	4.1
Chris Bassitt		4.0
Freddy Peralta		3.9
Josh Hader		3.3
Jonathan Loaisiga	3.3
Andrew Chafin		2.9
Scott Barlow		2.9
Garrett Whitlock	2.9
Raisel Iglesias		2.8

 

DL from MN Posted: October 07, 2021 at 01:23 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. DL from MN Posted: October 07, 2021 at 01:25 PM (#6044489)
Thought I should get this up for prelims before the playoffs
   2. Mayor Blomberg Posted: October 07, 2021 at 02:02 PM (#6044499)
Zach Wheeler 7.6
October 31, 2019: Granted Free Agency.

sigh
   3. DL from MN Posted: October 07, 2021 at 02:56 PM (#6044516)
2021 Prelim

1) Shohei Otani - combined value puts him comfortably at #1
2) Zach Wheeler - best pitcher
3) Carlos Correa - excellent fielder
4) Marcus Semien
5) Fernando Tatis Jr
6) Robbie Ray
7) Walker Buehler
8) Juan Soto
9) Trea Turner
10) Jose Ramirez - he is an overlooked star
11) Brandon Crawford
12) Vladimir Guerrero Jr
13) Max Scherzer
14) Bo Bichette
15) Tyler O'Neill

16-20) Austin Riley, Bryan Reynolds, Wade Miley, Ranger Suarez, Gerrit Cole
   4. kcgard2 Posted: October 08, 2021 at 11:27 AM (#6044757)
prelim

1) Shohei Ohtani - agreed that the combined value is too persuasive
2) Zack Wheeler - Zack with a k :) is the best pitcher this year, agreed
3) Marcus Semien
4) Juan Soto
5) Vlad Guerrero, Jr.
6) Walker Buehler
7) Carlos Correa
8) Max Scherzer
9) Robbie Ray
10) Jose Ramirez
11) Fernando Tatis Jr.
12) Trea Turner
13) Corbin Burnes
14) Bryce Harper
15) Gerrit Cole

16-20) Brandon Crawford, Kevin Gausman, Tyler O'Neill, Bo Bichette, Brandon Woodruff
   5. DL from MN Posted: October 08, 2021 at 03:32 PM (#6044847)
Players who won MMP but are not inducted into the Hall of Merit

1939 Bucky Walters
1944 Dizzy Trout
1950 Phil Rizzuto
1953 Al Rosen
1978 Ron Guidry
1979 Fred Lynn
1985 Dwight Gooden
1988 Jose Canseco

2006, 2008, 2009 Albert Pujols
2010 Josh Hamilton
2011 Jose Bautista
2012, 2013, 2014, 2016 Mike Trout
2015 Bryce Harper
2017 Jose Altuve
2018 Mookie Betts
2019 Alex Bregman
2020 Freddie Freeman
   6. MrC. Posted: October 08, 2021 at 07:35 PM (#6044903)


My take on the position player All Stars

NL. First team Second team
C Willson Conteras Buster Posey
1B Paul Goldschmidt Max Muncy
2B Jake Cronenworth Ozzie Albies
3B Austin Riley Nolan Arenado
SS Fernando Tatis Jr Trea Turner
OF 1 to 3 in order 4 to 6 in order
Juan Soto Bryan Reynolds
Bryce Harper Mookie Betts
Tyler O'Neill Brandon Nimmo

AL
C Salvador Perez. Mke Zunino
!B Vlad Guerrero Jr Matt Olson
2B Marcus Semien Brandon Lowe
3B Jose Ramirez Jeimer Candelario
SS Carlos Correa Bo Bichette
OF 1 to 3 in order 4 to 6 in order
Aaron Judge Joey Gallo
Cedric Mullins Byron Buxton
Kyle Tucker Enrique Hernandez
DH Shohei Ohtani. Yordan Alvarez

Never have had any luck with formattingon this site
   7. MrC. Posted: October 10, 2021 at 06:01 PM (#6045163)
Pitching all stars (5. starters, 1 swingman, 3 relievers

NL
Starters
Zack Wheeler
Walker Buehler
Wade Miley
Max Fried
Luis Castillo

Swingman
Ranger Suarez

Relievers
Josh Hader
Craig Kimbrel (NL only)
Blake Treinen

AL

Starters
Robbie Ray
Gerritt Cole
Nathan Eovaldi
Lance Lynn
Carlos Rondon

Swingman
Cal Quantrill

Relievers
JonathanĀ Loaisiga
Garrett Whitlock
Liam Hendriks





   8. MrC. Posted: October 11, 2021 at 10:39 AM (#6045435)
2021 Prelim ballot

1. Shohei Ohtani 9.92 WARR
2. Juan Soto 8.02 WARR
3. Carlos Correa 7.23 WARR
4. Zack Wheeler 7.11. WARR
5. Vladimir Guerrero Jr 6.67 WARR
6. Bryce Harper 6.64 WARR
7. Paul Goldschmidt 6.51 WARR
8. Fernando Tatis Jr 6.46 WARR
9. Aaron Judge 6.42 WARR
10. Walker Buehler 6.36 WARR
11. Jose Ramirez 6.28 WARR
12. Robbie Ray 6.21 WARR
13. Marcus Semien 5.91 WARR
14. Trea Turner 5.81 WARR
15. Matt Olson 5.81 WARR

Rest of top 20
16. Brandon Lowe
17. Wade Miley
18. Ranger Suarez
19. Austin Riley
20. Gerritt Cole
   9. The Honorable Ardo Posted: October 11, 2021 at 05:18 PM (#6045538)
DL's list is an interesting one. Walters and Rizzuto are still viable candidates (though league quality is an issue). Dizzy Trout is a wartime artifact. Rosen, Guidry, Lynn, Gooden, and Canseco couldn't stay healthy/ingested funny stuff.

Neither Hamilton (funny stuff) nor Bautista will make the Hall of Merit, though the other post-2010 winners are all on track. And I'm surprised that Bautista won the 2011 award over Justin Verlander, who's a lock for induction.
   10. kcgard2 Posted: October 12, 2021 at 01:41 PM (#6045833)
65 players have won an MMP award, of which 56 are eligible for HOM. 48 of the 56 are actually in the HOM. Here's the stat that blows my mind: 47 of the 48 were inducted on the first ballot! The only player in the HOM who has an MMP award and was not voted in first ballot is Rube Waddell.

Also, Ardo says Walters and Rizzuto are still viable candidates. I say Guidry, Lynn, and Gooden are the viable candidates (and possibly Rizzuto). Which just leaves Rosen and Canseco as the only guys who really don't have a case. And Brock still votes for Rosen, at that.
   11. DL from MN Posted: October 13, 2021 at 02:58 PM (#6046118)
ALWC BOS 6 NYY 2
Player Name G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SB CS E WPA cWPA
Xander Bogaerts 1 2 2 1 0 0 1 2 2 1 .500 .750 2.000 2.750 0 0 0 0.17 1.95% 
Enrique Hernandez 1 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .333 .500 .333 .833 0 0 0 0.01 0.05%

Joey Gallo* 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 -0.09 -1.01%
Aaron Judge 1 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .250 .250 .500 0 0 0 0.00 0.03%

Pitcher Name G GS ERA W L SV CG IP H R ER BB SO WHIP WPA cWPA
Nathan Eovaldi 1 1 1.69 1 0 0 0 5.1 4 1 1 0 8 0.750 0.17 1.99%
Garrett Whitlock 1 0 9.00 0 0 0 0 1.0 1 1 1 0 0 1.000 0.01 0.09% 

Gerrit Cole 1 1 13.50 0 1 0 0 2.0 4 3 3 2 3 3.000 -0.22 -2.53%
Jonathan Loaisiga 1 0 18.00 0 0 0 0 1.0 0 2 2 3 2 3.000 0.02 0.23% 

   12. DL from MN Posted: October 13, 2021 at 03:46 PM (#6046136)
NLWC LAD 1 STL 0
Player Name G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SB CS E WPA cWPA
Mookie Betts 1 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .500 .500 .500 1.000 0 0 0 -0.02 -0.08%
Trea Turner 1 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .500 .500 .500 1.000 0 0 0 -0.13 -1.74%

Nolan Arenado 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 -0.18 -2.28%
Paul Goldschmidt 1 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 1 .333 .600 .333 .933 0 0 0 0.02 0.41%
Tyler O'Neill 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .200 .000 .200 1 0 0 -0.19 -2.41%

Pitcher Name G GS ERA W L SV CG IP H R ER BB SO WHIP WPA cWPA 
Max Scherzer 1 1 2.08 0 0 0 0 4.1 3 1 1 3 4 1.385 0.04 0.59%
   13. DL from MN Posted: October 13, 2021 at 03:57 PM (#6046137)
ALDS HOU 3 CHW 1
Player Name G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SB CS E WPA cWPA
Jose Altuve 4 16 9 5 2 0 1 3 4 5 .313 .476 .625 1.101 1 0 0 0.23 2.47%
Carlos Correa 4 13 4 5 2 0 0 4 4 2 .385 .529 .538 1.068 0 0 0 0.35 3.89%
Kyle Tucker* 4 17 5 5 1 0 2 7 0 2 .294 .294 .706 1.000 2 0 0 0.38 3.05%

Tim Anderson 4 19 4 7 0 0 0 1 0 5 .368 .368 .368 .737 0 0 1 -0.02 -0.54%
Yoan Moncada# 4 16 2 4 0 0 0 0 1 3 .250 .294 .250 .544 0 0 0 -0.24 -2.16%

Pitcher Name G GS ERA W L SV CG IP H R ER BB SO WHIP WPA cWPA
Lucas Giolito 1 1 8.31 0 0 0 0 4.1 3 4 4 5 4 1.846 -0.08 -0.77%
Lance Lynn 1 1 12.27 0 1 0 0 3.2 6 5 5 2 4 2.182 -0.23 -2.04%
Carlos Rodon* 1 1 6.75 0 1 0 0 2.2 3 2 2 2 3 1.875 -0.13 -1.58%
   14. DL from MN Posted: October 13, 2021 at 04:03 PM (#6046138)
ALDS BOS 3 TBR 1
Player Name G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SB CS E WPA cWPA
Xander Bogaerts 4 18 3 6 0 0 1 2 1 3 .333 .368 .500 .868 0 0 0 -0.04 -1.02%
Enrique Hernandez 4 20 4 9 3 0 2 6 0 2 .450 .429 .900 1.329 0 0 0 0.26 2.92%

Randy Arozarena 4 15 4 5 1 0 1 3 4 4 .333 .474 .600 1.074 2 0 0 0.49 6.05%
Brandon Lowe* 4 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 1 -0.47 -5.27%

Pitcher Name G GS ERA W L SV CG IP H R ER BB SO WHIP WPA cWPA 
Nathan Eovaldi 1 1 3.60 0 0 0 0 5.0 3 2 2 1 8 0.800 0.10 1.14%
Garrett Whitlock 2 0 0.00 1 0 0 0 3.1 0 0 0 1 3 0.300 0.62 7.81%
   15. DL from MN Posted: October 13, 2021 at 04:08 PM (#6046141)
NLDS ATL 3 MIL 1
Player Name G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SB CS E WPA cWPA
Freddie Freeman 4 13 2 4 1 0 1 2 4 4 .308 .471 .615 1.086 0 0 0 0.51 5.59%
Austin Riley 4 15 3 5 0 0 1 1 1 4 .333 .375 .533 .908 0 0 0 0.04 0.62%

Willy Adames 4 17 0 5 1 0 0 0 0 9 .294 .294 .353 .647 0 0 0 -0.29 -3.07%

Pitcher Name G GS ERA W L SV CG IP H R ER BB SO WHIP WPA cWPA
Max Fried 1 1 0.00 1 0 0 0 6.0 3 0 0 0 9 0.500 0.34 3.42%
Charlie Morton 2 2 3.86 0 1 0 0 9.1 7 4 4 2 14 0.964 0.02 -0.40%

Corbin Burnes 1 1 0.00 0 0 0 0 6.0 2 0 0 3 6 0.833 0.36 3.13%
Josh Hader 2 0 4.50 0 1 1 0 2.0 2 1 1 1 3 1.500 -0.05 -1.22%
Freddy Peralta 1 1 0.00 0 0 0 0 4.0 3 0 0 1 5 1.000 0.22 2.58%
Brandon Woodruff 2 1 3.68 0 1 0 0 7.1 6 3 3 1 8 0.955 0.12 1.47%
   16. DL from MN Posted: October 15, 2021 at 12:21 PM (#6046657)
NLDS LAD 3 SFG 2
Player Name G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SB CS E WPA cWPA
Mookie Betts 5 20 2 9 0 0 1 4 1 2 .450 .455 .600 1.055 2 0 0 0.25 5.42%
Trea Turner 5 22 1 3 2 0 0 1 0 5 .136 .136 .227 .364 0 0 0 -0.39 -7.25%

Brandon Crawford 5 20 2 5 1 0 1 2 0 4 .250 .250 .450 .700 0 0 1 -0.25 -4.22%

Pitcher Name G GS ERA W L SV CG IP H R ER BB SO WHIP WPA cWPA
Walker Buehler 2 2 3.38 0 1 0 0 10.2 9 4 4 3 9 1.125 0.14 1.59% 
Max Scherzer 2 1 1.13 0 1 1 0 8.0 3 1 1 1 12 0.500 0.44 8.25%
Julio Urias 2 1 2.00 1 0 0 0 9.0 6 2 2 1 10 0.778 0.27 3.34%

Anthony DeSclafani 1 1 10.80 0 1 0 0 1.2 5 2 2 0 2 3.000 -0.15 -1.59%
Kevin Gausman 2 1 6.00 0 1 0 0 6.0 4 4 4 3 7 1.167 0.09 2.29%

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