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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 21, 2012 at 07:17 PM (#4278240)Rk Player WAR ERA+ IP
1 Walter Johnson 29.6 119 1823.2
2 Carl Hubbell 29.2 118 1803.0
3 Joe McGinnity 28.2 117 1998.1
4 Babe Adams 26.8 110 1817.0
5 Virgil Trucks 25.6 119 1675.2
6 David Cone 24.8 117 1206.0
7 Jesse Haines 23.1 115 1779.0
8 Rube Walberg 22.9 106 1689.1
9 Bob Ewing 22.4 115 1724.2
10 Larry Jackson 22.4 112 1590.1
11 Andy Pettitte 21.8 118 1338.0
12 Doyle Alexander 21.7 108 1553.2
13 Orlando Hernandez 21.5 110 1314.2
14 Bucky Walters 21.4 115 1567.1
15 Ray Kremer 21.2 112 1695.1
16 Curt Davis 20.7 110 1819.2
17 Rick Reuschel 20.2 111 1457.0
18 Burleigh Grimes 20.0 113 1739.2
19 Bob Smith 19.8 102 1952.1
20 Rick Reed 18.6 111 1279.1
21 Danny Darwin 17.8 101 1580.2
22 Geoff Zahn 17.6 111 1484.0
23 Robin Roberts 16.7 101 1561.0
24 Jeff Fassero 14.9 100 1604.1
25 Paul Derringer 14.8 110 1602.1
26 Jerry Reuss 12.7 101 1466.1
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In proportion to his regular season numbers, he's got to have one of the biggest playoff boosts: 106 IP (14 GS, 19 G), 2.55 ERA, 9-3. Regular season: 1,314 IP, 4.13 ERA, 90-65.
He started his postseason career 8-0 and had a Mariano-like postseason reputation, at least among Yankee fans, for a while. Eventually age/talent/luck caught up with him but his post-season record is still excellent.
I also pointed out that Hernandez' career WAR from age 32+ is right about at the mean for HOF starting pitchers at the same age range.
If you complain that the list is not supposed to be by IP or ERA+, but by WAR, then Orlando is right in the middle of this group: Andy Pettite, Doyle Alexander, Bucky Walters, and Ray Kremer. Pettite might get into the Hall due to New York hype and postseason performance, but he has the HIGHEST WAR in the group of five, Compared to Haines, Pettite has 400 fewer IP against a 3-point ERA+ advantage. And Haines is considered to be a mistake. - Brock Hanke
Anyhoo, this is mainly to point out that El Duque was omitted from the list of newly eligible players in the Ballot Thread intro.
Two of the fifteen spots on my 2020 ballot went to Cuban pitchers: Luque and Tiant. I'm confident that both were better than Hernandez. Age 32+:
Hernandez: 1314 IP, 110 ERA+
Tiant: 1942 IP, 111 ERA+
Luque: 2245 IP, 121 ERA+ (Incidentally, this is why I'm such a strong supporter of Luque's candidacy.)
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