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Hall of Merit — A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best Monday, August 02, 2004The Baseball Hall of Merit Plaque Room: Home PageEnter here to see the players that have been immortalized in the Hall of Merit. John Murphy was the curator of the Plaque Room and creator (with Ryan Wagman’s help) of the plaques. As of 2011 the creator of the plaques is theorioleway. David Foss is in charge of the franchise cap standings. Devin McCullen provides the city and state cap standings. yest helps us out double-checking the plaques for accuracy. The whole process is overseen by our commissioner and founder Joe Dimino. For Hall of Meriters A-F, please click here. The current roster (267 total) includes (in alphabetical order for each position): Pitchers (74): Pete Alexander+, Kevin Brown+, Bert Blyleven+, Mordecai Brown, Ray Brown+, Jim Bunning+, Steve Carlton+, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson+, Roger Clemens+**, Stan Coveleski, David Cone, Martín Dihigo+, Don Drysdale+, Dennis Eckersley+, Red Faber+, Bob Feller+, Wes Ferrell, Rollie Fingers, Whitey Ford+, Rube Foster, Willie Foster, Pud Galvin, Bob Gibson+, Tom Glavine+, Rich Gossage+, Clark Griffith, Lefty Grove+*, Carl Hubbell+, Walter Johnson+*, Fergie Jenkins, Randy Johnson+*, Tim Keefe, Sandy Koufax+, Bob Lemon, Ted Lyons, Greg Maddux+**, Juan Marichal+, Pedro Martinez+, Christy Mathewson+**, Joe McGinnity, José Méndez, Mike Mussina, Hal Newhouser+, Kid Nichols+, Phil Niekro, Satchel Paige+, Jim Palmer+, Gaylord Perry+, Billy Pierce, Eddie Plank, Charley Radbourn, Rick Reuschel, Eppa Rixey, Robin Roberts+, Bullet Rogan+, Red Ruffing, Amos Rusie+, Nolan Ryan, Bret Saberhagen, Curt Schilling, Tom Seaver+**, John Smoltz, Warren Spahn+, Al Spalding, Dave Stieb, Don Sutton+, Dazzy Vance, Rube Waddell, Ed Walsh+, Hoyt Wilhelm+, Smokey Joe Williams, Early Wynn and Cy Young+*. Catchers (22): Johnny Bench+, Charlie Bennett, Yogi Berra+, Roger Bresnahan, Roy Campanella+, Gary Carter+, Mickey Cochrane+, Bill Dickey, Buck Ewing+, Carlton Fisk+, Bill Freehan, Josh Gibson+, Gabby Hartnett+, Biz Mackey, Cal McVey, Mike Piazza+, Ivan Rodriguez+, Louis Santop+, Ted Simmons+, Joe Torre, Quincy Trouppe and Deacon White+. First Basemen (23): Cap Anson+, Jeff Bagwell+, Jake Beckley, Dan Brouthers+**, Will Clark+, Roger Connor+, Jimmie Foxx+, Lou Gehrig+*, Hank Greenberg+, Keith Hernandez+, Harmon Killebrew+, Buck Leonard+, Willie McCovey+, Mark McGwire+, Johnny Mize+, Eddie Murray+, Rafael Palmeiro, George Sisler, Joe Start, Mule Suttles, Bill Terry+, Frank Thomas+, and Jim Thome+. Second Basemen (23): Roberto Alomar+, Ross Barnes+, Craig Biggio+, Rod Carew+, Cupid Childs, Eddie Collins, Bobby Doerr, Nellie Fox, Frankie Frisch, Charlie Gehringer+, Joe Gordon, Frank Grant, Bobby Grich+, Billy Herman, Rogers Hornsby+**, Nap Lajoie+, Bid McPhee, Joe Morgan+, Willie Randolph, Hardy Richardson, Jackie Robinson+, Ryne Sandberg+, and Lou Whitaker+. Third Basemen (21): Dick Allen+, Frank Baker+, John Beckwith, Wade Boggs+*, George Brett+**, Ken Boyer, Jimmy Collins, Darrell Evans+, Heinie Groh, Stan Hack, Chipper Jones+*, Eddie Mathews+, John McGraw, Paul Molitor+, Graig Nettles, Brooks Robinson, Scott Rolen+, Ron Santo+, Mike Schmidt+*, Ezra Sutton, and Jud Wilson. Shortstops (26): Luke Appling+, Ernie Banks+, Lou Boudreau, Joe Cronin, Bill Dahlen+, George Davis+, Jack Glasscock, Hughie Jennings, Home Run Johnson, Barry Larkin+, John Henry Lloyd, Dick Lundy, Dobie Moore, Dickey Pearce, Pee Wee Reese+, Cal Ripken, Jr.+**, Joe Sewell, Ozzie Smith+, Alan Trammell+, Arky Vaughan+, Honus Wagner+*, Bobby Wallace, John Ward+, Willie Wells, George Wright and Robin Yount+. Left Fielders (24): Jesse Burkett, Barry Bonds+*, Fred Clarke+, Ed Delahanty+, Goose Goslin, Rickey Henderson+*, Monte Irvin, Charley Jones, Charlie Keller, Joe Kelley, Ralph Kiner, Sherry Magee, Joe Medwick, Minnie Minoso, Stan Musial+*, Tim Raines+, Jimmy Sheckard, Al Simmons+, Willie Stargell+, Harry Stovey, Zack Wheat+, Billy Williams, Ted Williams+*, and Carl Yastrzemski+. Center Fielders (28): Richie Ashburn+, Earl Averill, Cool Papa Bell, Willard Brown, Pete Browning, Max Carey, Oscar Charleston+, Ty Cobb+, Andre Dawson, Joe DiMaggio+*, Larry Doby+, Jim Edmonds, George Gore+, Ken Griffey, Jr.+**, Billy Hamilton+, Pete Hill+, Paul Hines+ , Mickey Mantle+*, Willie Mays+*, Alejandro Oms, Jim O’Rourke+, Lip Pike, Edd Roush, Duke Snider+, Tris Speaker+, Turkey Stearnes+, Cristóbal Torriente and Jimmy Wynn. Right Fielders (25): Hank Aaron+*, Roberto Clemente+, Sam Crawford**, Dwight Evans+, Elmer Flick, Tony Gwynn+, Harry Heilmann, Vladimir Guerrero, Joe Jackson, Reggie Jackson+, Al Kaline+, Willie Keeler, King Kelly+, Mel Ott+, Manny Ramirez+,Frank Robinson+**, Pete Rose, Babe Ruth+*, Gary Sheffield, Enos Slaughter+, Reggie Smith, Sam Thompson, Larry Walker+, Paul Waner+ and Dave Winfield+. Designated Hitters (1): Edgar Martinez+ + first-year candidate honorees (151) * unanimously first on each voter’s ballot (18) ** placed in “elect me” ballot positions on each voter’s ballot, but not unanimously in first (11) 2018 Franchise Cap Standings 1. Giants - 19 (Bonds, Bresnahan, WClark, Connor, GDavis, DaEvans, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Marichal, Mathewson, WMays, McCovey, McGinnity, Ott, GPerry, Rusie, Terry, Ward) 2T. Cubs - 17 (Anson, Banks, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, Jenkins, KKelly, Reuschel, Sandberg, Santo, Sheckard, BiWilliams) 2T. Braves - 17 (Aaron, Barnes, Glavine, Jones, Maddux, Mathews, McVey, Nichols, PNiekro, O'Rourke, Smoltz, Spahn, Spalding, ESutton, Torre, DWhite, GWright) 4. Indians - 14 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, JSewell, Speaker, Thome, EWynn) 5T. Yankees - 13 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, WFord, Gehrig, Gordon, Gossage, Keller, Mantle, Nettles, Randolph, Ruffing, Ruth) 5T. Cardinals - 13 (KBoyer, Caruthers, Edmonds, Frisch, BGibson, KHernandez, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, TSimmons, Slaughter, OSmith) 7T. Athletics - 12 (FBaker, Cochrane, Eckersley, Fingers, Foxx, Grove, Henderson, McGwire, Plank, ReJackson, ASimmons, Waddell) 7T. Phillies - 12 (Alexander, DAllen, Ashburn, Carlton, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, RRoberts, Rolen, Schilling, Schmidt, Thompson) 9T. Tigers - 11 (Bunning, Cobb, Crawford, Freehan, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Kaline, Newhouser, Trammell, Whitaker) 9T. Red Sox - 11 (Boggs, Clemens, JCollins, Doerr, DwEvans, Fisk, Martinez, Ramirez, RSmith, TWilliams, Yastrzemski) 11T. Reds - 10 (Bench, CJones, Groh, Larkin, McPhee, Morgan, Rixey, FRobinson, Rose, Roush) 11T. Dodgers - 10 (Campanella, Drysdale, Koufax, Piazza, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, DSutton, Vance, Wheat) 11T. White Sox - 10 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Fox, Lyons, Minoso, BPierce, Thomas, Walsh, Wilhelm) 14. Pirates - 9 (Beckley, Carey, Clarke, Clemente, Kiner, Stargell, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner) 15. Orioles/Browns - 7 (Murray, Mussina, Palmer, Ripken, BRobinson, Sisler, Wallace) 16. Twins/Senators - 6 (Blyleven, Carew, Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson, Killebrew) 17T. Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 4 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley, McGraw) 17T. Montreal Expos - 4 (GCarter, Dawson, Guerrero, Raines) 19T. Astros - 3 (Bagwell, Biggio, JWynn) 19T. Buffalo Bisons - 3 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson) 19T. Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente) 19T. Cleveland Spiders - 3 (Burkett, Childs, CYoung) 19T. Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard) 19T. Kansas City Monarchs - 3 (WBrown, DMoore, Rogan) 19T. Saint Louis Stars - 3 (CPBell, Suttles, WWells) 19T Rangers - 3 (K. Brown, Palmeiro, Rodriguez) 27T. Angels - 2 (Grich, NRyan) 27T. Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson) 27T. Blue Jays - 2 (Alomar, Stieb) 27T. Brewers - 2 (Molitor, Yount) 27T. Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start) 27T. Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop) 27T. Mariners - 2 (Griffey Jr., Martinez) 27T. Mets - 2 (Cone, Seaver) 27T. New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams) 27T. Padres - 2 (Gwynn, Winfield) 27T. Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne) 27T. Royals - 2 (Brett, Saberhagen) 39T. Almendares Blues - 1 (JMendez) 39T. Atlantic City Bacharach Giants - 1 (Lundy) 39T. Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock) 39T. Cleveland Buckeyes - 1 (QTrouppe) 39T. Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant) 39T. Cuban Stars East - 1 (Oms) 39T. Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes) 39T. Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett) 39T. Diamondbacks - 1 (RJohnson) 39T. Habana Reds - 1 (Dihigo) 39T. Hilldale Daisies - 1 (Mackey) 39T. Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston) 39T. Louisville Colonels - 1 (Browning) 39T. Marlins - 1 (Sheffield) 39T. Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin) 39T. Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey) 39T. Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster) 39T. Pittsburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige) 39T Rockies - 1 (Walker) 39T. Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike) 2018 Cap Standings by City 1. Chicago - 30 (Anson, Appling, Banks, M. Brown, J. Clarkson, E. Collins, Dahlen, Faber, B. Foster, Fox, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett, Herman, Hill, Jenkins, Kelly, Lyons, Minoso, Pierce, Reuschel, Sandberg, Santo, Sheckard, Thomas, Torriente, Walsh, Wilhelm, Bi. Williams) 2. New York - 29 (Berra, Bresnahan, Cone, Connor, G. Davis, Dickey, DiMaggio, Ewing, Ford, Gehrig, Gordon, Gossage, Hubbell, Keefe, Keller, Lloyd, Mantle, Mathewson, McGinnity, Nettles, Ott, Randolph, Ruffing, Rusie, Ruth, Seaver, Terry, Ward, J. Williams) 3. Philadelphia - 21 (Alexander, Allen, Ashburn, Baker, Carlton, Cochrane, Delahanty, R. Foster, Foxx, Grove, Hamilton, Magee, Plank, Roberts, Rolen, Schilling, Schmidt, A. Simmons, H. Stovey, Thompson, Waddell) 4T. Cleveland - 19 (Averill, Boudreau, Burkett, Childs, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, W. Ferrell, Flick, Glasscock, J. Jackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Sewell, Speaker, Thome, Trouppe, E. Wynn, Young) 4T. St. Louis - 19 (Bell, Boyer, Caruthers, Edmonds, Frisch, B. Gibson, Hernandez, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Pike, T. Simmons, Sisler, Slaughter, Smith, Suttles, Wallace, Wells) 4T. Boston - 19 (Barnes, Boggs, Clemens, J. Collins, Doerr, Dw. Evans, Fisk, Martinez, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Ramirez, Smith, Spalding, E. Sutton, White, T. Williams, G. Wright, Yastrzemski) 7T. Detroit - 13 (Bennett, Bunning, Cobb, Crawford, Freehan, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Kaline, Newhouser, Stearnes, Trammell, Whitaker) 7T. Pittsburgh - 13 (Beckley, R. Brown, Carey, Clarke, Clemente, J. Gibson, Kiner, B. Leonard, Paige, Stargell, Vaughan, Wagner, Waner) 9. Baltimore - 11 (Beckwith, Jennings, Keeler, Kelley, McGraw, Murray, Mussina, Palmer, Ripken, B. Robinson, Wilson) 10T. Brooklyn* - 10 (Campanella, G. Johnson, Pearce, Reese, J. Robinson, Santop, Snider, Start, Vance, Wheat) 10T. Cincinnati - 10 (Bench, Groh, Jones, Larkin, McPhee, Morgan, Rixey, F. Robinson, Rose, Roush) 12. San Francisco - 7 (Bonds, Clark, Da. Evans, Marichal, Mays, McCovey, G. Perry) 13. Milwaukee - 6 (Aaron, Mathews, Molitor, Spahn, Torre, Yount) 14T. Kansas City - 5 (Brett, W. Brown, Moore, Rogan, Saberhagen) 14T. Oakland - 5 (Eckersley, Fingers, Henderson, R. Jackson, McGwire) 14T. Atlanta - 5 (Glavine, Jones, Maddux, Niekro, Smoltz) 17T. Los Angeles - 4 (Drysdale, Koufax, Piazza, D. Sutton) 17T. Montreal - 4 (Carter, Dawson, Guerrero, Raines) 19T. Buffalo - 3 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson) 19T. Houston - 3 (Bagwell, Biggio, J. Wynn) 19T. Minneapolis/St. Paul - 3 (Blyleven, Carew, Killebrew) 19T. Washington, DC - 3 (Cronin, Goslin, W. Johnson) 19T. Arlington - 3 (K. Brown, Palmeiro, Rodriguez) 24T. Anaheim* - 2 (Grich, N. Ryan) 24T. N/A - 2 (F. Grant, Oms) 24T. Providence - 2 (Hines, Radbourne) 24T. San Diego – 2 (Gwynn, Winfield) 24T. Seattle – 2 (Griffey Jr., Martinez) 24T. Toronto – 2 (Alomar, Stieb) 30T. Almendares* - 1 (Mendez) 30T. Atlantic City – 1 (Lundy) 30T. Darby, PA* - 1 (Mackey) 30T. Denver - 1 (Walker) 30T. Havana - 1 (Dihigo) 30T. Indianapolis - 1 (Charleston) 30T. Louisville – 1 (Browning) 30T. Miami - 1 (Sheffield) 30T. Newark - 1 (Irvin) 30T. Phoenix - 1 (R.Johnson) * Cities marked with an asterisk could be considered to be part of another city. 2018 Cap Standings by State, Province, Foreign Country (if there is no knowm state or province) or U.S. Capital: 1. New York (42) 2. Pennsylvania (35) 3T. Illinois (29) 3T. Ohio (29) 5. Missouri (24) 6. California (20) 7. Massachusetts (19) 8. Michigan (13) 9. Maryland (11) 10T. Wisconsin (6) 10T. Texas (6) 11T. Georgia (5) 12. Quebec (4) 14T. District of Columbia (3) 14T. Minnesota (3) 16T. Cuba (2) 16T. Indiana (2) 16T. Kentucky (2) 16T. New Jersey (2) 16T. Ontario (2) 16T. Rhode Island (2) 16T. Washington (2) 23T. Arizona (1) 23T. Colorado (1) 23T. Florida (1) 23T. Oregon (1)
All Negro League awards mentioned on the plaques are from John Holway’s The Complete Book of Baseball’s Negro Leagues (Fleet Walker Award = MVP; George Stovey Award = Cy Young Award; Rube Foster Award = Playoff MVP). Primary positions on the plaques will be distinguished from secondary positions on all plaques by bold type. Seasons are calculated this way: (Games Played/Team’s Scheduled Games). Each result is added up for each season to get the final number shown on each plaque. Here are the plaques for the 2013 inductees: Roger Clemens - 2013 - P Mike Piazza - 2013 - C Craig Biggio - 2013 - 2B/C/CF JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
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yest:
I'll see about adding your contributions to his plaque.
Indian outfielder from the teens (first name Elmer) is having his last name censored all over this page. I have to use my imagination to try and guess why. Perhaps due to the fact that a capital L following by a capital I sorta resembles a capital U? That's a big reach, but you see some interesting ways people try to break spam filters and stuff like that.
At any rate, it seems like its going a bit too far to me. Its a valid verb. Its a colloquial term for movie. Add and -er and precede with 'flea' and its a razzle-dazzle play in football.
On top of that, we are trying to honor this guy and I had to spend a few minutes trying to figure out who the Indian was between Feller and JJackson because he just shows up everywhere as #####.
That's ridiculous, David. I'm going to IM Jim about it right now.
<u>1967 Franchise Cap Standings</u>
1T. Giants - 11 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Mathewson, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
1T. Indians - 11 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Speaker)
3. Cubs - 10 (Anson, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Sheckard)
4. Braves - 7 (Barnes, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spalding, ESutton, GWright)
5T. Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
5T. Cardinals - 6 (Caruthers, Frisch, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Slaughter)
5T. Tigers - 6 (Cobb, Crawford, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Newhouser)
8T. Dodgers - 5 (Campanella, PWReese, JRobinson, Vance, Wheat)
8T. Phillies - 5 (Alexander, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, Thompson)
8T. Pirates - 5 (Carey, Clarke, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
8T. Yankees - 5 (Dickey, Dimaggio, Gehrig, Ruffing, Ruth)
13 .Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
14T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
14T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
14T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
14T.Twins - 3 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson)
18T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
18T.Red Sox - 2 (JCollins, TWilliams)
18T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
18T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
18T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
18T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
18T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
18T.Reds - 2 (Groh, McPhee)
18T.Saint Louis Stars - 2 (Suttles, WWells)
27T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
27T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
27T.Cuban Stars - 1 (Dihigo)
27T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
27T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
27T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
27T.Kansas City Monarchs - 1 (Rogan)
27T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
27T.Orioles - 1 (Wallace)
27T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
27T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
27T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
27T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
Retired with the Braves’ career record for AB per K (165.8)
John baseball referance still calculates the at bats in years which have no strikeouts which most of Collins years on Boston
5 of the 11 Giants earned their caps before the Indians were established, as did 5 of the 10 Cubs and 7 of the 7 Braves.
<u>20 the century caps</u>
11 - Indians
6 - Athletics
6 - Tigers
6 - Cardinals
6 - Giants
5 - Yankees
5 - Dodgers
5 - Pirates
5 - Cubs
4 - - none -
Before 1901, Cleveland was represented in the major leagues 1871-72, 1879-84, and 1887-99. White and Sutton starred for the Forest Citys; Glasscock wears a "Blues" cap; Young and Burkett wear "Spiders" caps.
I read your posts. I just haven't got to them. Thank you!
His biggest baseball moment was striking out Tony Lazzeri to help the Cards beat the Yanks in ’26
wouldn't this be better
His biggest baseball moment was in game 7 of the 1926 world series coming in releif after pitching the day before with the bases loaded striking out Tony Lazzeri to help the Cards beat the Yanks
holds the record for the most 1 hitters in a season 4 in 1915
since he was known by Grover Cleavland just as much as pet shouldn't they both be on the plaque
Willie Wells 8 east west all star games
Lou Boudreau retired with the record for the most double plays in a season 134 in 1944
Hughie Jennings holds the major leauge single season record for putouts per game 3.24, chances accepted per game (George Davis is second)6.73 , and is tied with Donie Bush for the most putouts 425, and the NL record for total chances per game 7.16
I made many of the corrections that you suggested, but here are a few notes for some of them:
Here are some things I found on Bill Foster on the hall of Fame's web site that might belong on his plaque
WON 26 STRAIGHT IN 1926
HAD 32-3 MARK IN 1927.
Since they included non-league games, I'm not going to add it.
John baseball referance still calculates the at bats in years which have no strikeouts which most of Collins years on Boston
Yeah, I copied that from that site. Should have known better about the strikeouts for that era.
this might belong on Rube Fostor's plaque remured to have taught Christy Mathewson his screw Ball
Being a rumor is why it's not on the plaque.
His biggest baseball moment was in game 7 of the 1926 world series coming in releif after pitching the day before with the bases loaded striking out Tony Lazzeri to help the Cards beat the Yanks
I added a little of that.
holds the record for the most 1 hitters in a season 4 in 1915
Lou Boudreau retired with the record for the most double plays in a season 134 in 1944
ML?
Hughie Jennings holds the major leauge single season record for putouts per game 3.24, chances accepted per game (George Davis is second)6.73 , and is tied with Donie Bush for the most putouts 425, and the NL record for total chances per game 7.16
for Turkey Stearns 4 east west all star games
Willie Wells 8 east west all star games
What years?
Thanks for your help!
yes
Hughie Jennings holds the major leauge single season record for putouts per game 3.24, chances accepted per game (George Davis is second)6.73 , and is tied with Donie Bush for the most putouts 425, and the NL record for total chances per game 7.16
What years?
all in 1895
for Turkey Stearns 4 east west all star games
Willie Wells 8 east west all star games
What years?
I got that off their HoF plaques and they don't mention their years
on TF Brown's plaque
Retired with the Cubs’ single-season records for ERA (1.04 in 1906)
that's the 3rd lowest era ever seeing how Dutch Leonard was in the AL and Tim Keefe's 0.86 era in 1880 but in only 105 innings pitched so Brown's would be a NL record also the Tim Keefe record should be on the ballot
Cap Anson retired with the career record for singles (2598)
on Ducky Medwick's plaque
A notorious bad-ball hitter, the right-handed Medwick could hit for average, power (he wasn’t known as “Muscles” for nothing – he hit line-drive doubles, triples, and homers every season),
A notorious bad-ball hitter, the right-handed Medwick could hit for average (324 avg with 2471 hits for his career), power (505 slug% 205 HRs) (he wasn’t known as “Muscles” for nothing – he hit line-drive doubles, triples, and homers every season),
for HR Baker
hit 363/392/560 in world series play
for Sam Crawford
10 triples 17 years in a row a record (Ty Cobb also 17 though not consecutive)
on George Wright's plaque
how a bought moving He led his leagues at short five times in putouts, assists twice, and double plays four times. after The premier defensive shortstop in the game during his prime,
sorry if I'm putting to much on at once I want to put a big chunk of my sudgestions on before the time I'll have avalibe to post will be sevirly limited
you put a . instead of ,
The four columns are: Franchise,FractCaps,Caps, and Gain/Loss using winner take all system:
1967 Standings
Giants 10.503 11 +0.497
Indians 8.632 11 +2.368
Cubs 8.171 10 +1.829
Dodgers 7.512 5 -2.512
Braves 7.274 7 -0.274
Tigers 6.160 6 -0.160
WhiteSox 5.703 5 -0.703
Yankees 5.685 5 -0.685
Athletics 4.994 6 +1.006
Cardinals 4.895 6 +1.105
Pirates 4.739 5 +0.261
Red Sox 4.348 2 -2.348
Phillies 4.131 5 +0.869
Home-NeL 3.164 3 -0.164
Twins 2.520 3 +0.480
ChiAG-NeL 2.478 3 +0.522
Reds 2.415 2 -0.585
Pro 2.195 2 -0.195
Buf 1.992 4 +2.008
Bal-NL 1.887 3 +1.113
Det-NL 1.664 1 -0.664
KCMon-NeL 1.555 1 -0.555
Cle-NL 1.548 2 +0.452
NYLG-NeL 1.469 2 +0.531
Bkn-Atl 1.396 2 +0.604
BalBS-NeL 1.119 2 +0.881
Orioles 1.092 1 -0.092
Nwk-NeL 1.082 1 -0.082
PhiG-NeL .812 1 +0.188
PittCraw-NeL .805 1 +0.195
BroRoy-NeL .798 2 +1.202
StlStars-NeL .737 2 +1.263
DetS-NeL .636 1 +0.364
Phi-AA .601 1 +0.399
Lou-NL .566
Cin .552
HillDale-NeL .537
CubG-NeL .520 1 +0.480
Tro .505
Rock .478
Phi-Ath-NA .429
CubStar-NeL .395 1 +0.605
Mex-Lg .385
Bir-NeL .369
Leland-NeL .363
CubanX-NeL .358
CleFC .353
CinRS .340
IndABC-NeL .326 1 +0.674
NYMutual .325
NY-AA .323
CleB .322 1 +0.678
Ind .321
PhiStars-NeL .315
Bos-PL .301
Stl-NA .297 1 +0.703
on TF Brown's plaque
Retired with the Cubs’ single-season records for ERA (1.04 in 1906)
that's the 3rd lowest era ever seeing how Dutch Leonard was in the AL and Tim Keefe's 0.86 era in 1880 but in only 105 innings pitched so Brown's would be a NL record also the Tim Keefe record should be on the ballot
I noted that Brown has the post-19th century mark.
A notorious bad-ball hitter, the right-handed Medwick could hit for average (324 avg with 2471 hits for his career), power (505 slug% 205 HRs) (he wasn’t known as “Muscles” for nothing – he hit line-drive doubles, triples, and homers every season),
I'm going to keep the plaque as is, yest. I don't mind giving non-context related stats for records or for events, seasons, or careers that stand out regardless of era, but Medwick's numbers are not that awe inspiring (not a slight in regard to his election) among his brethren in the HoM. I did stress that he was very proficient in all areas of offense that require contact.
John I have aproximatly 95 players to change/add on record and unless my scedule changes I won't be able to post exept on the weekend for the next few months so how would you like me to post them for your convenience?
Give me no more than five and then we'll play it by ear, yest.
BTW, I'll be away from the computer almost all of next week (I'll be in sunny Florida! :-). I'll be able to handle the election next Monday, though.
Thanks for all of your help, yest!
hit 300 a record 24 times (Ty Cobb has 23) 20 in a row (NA-NL ) (all my 300 seasons are for a decent amount of playing time)
retired with the career record for the most runs produced 3930
retired with the career record for at bats 10277
retired with the career record for doubles 581
retired with the career record for extra base hits 820
retired with the career record for runs created 1792
retired with the career record for times on base 4433
retired with the 1st baseman’s career record for putouts 21695
including runs (1,996), RBI (2,076), total bases (4.574), hits (3, 418), doubles (581), games played (2.523)
a . instead of ,
Luke Appling
hit 300 13 times
hit 310/399
Earl Averill
2019 hits
hit 318/395/534
HR Baker
307 career batting avg
and speedy on the basepaths.
and speedy on the basepaths (235 steals) .
Ross Barnes
retired with the career record for runs 698
retired with the single season record for runs created 88 in 1876
retired with the single season record for runs 126 in 1876
retired with the single season record for runs per game 1.91 in 1876
I will correct that problem with Anson's plaque, though.
At his induction, he holds numerous career records (combined NA and NL), including runs (1,996), RBI (2,076), total bases (4,574), hits (3,418), doubles (581), games played (2,523), and putouts (6,545).
John I'm not 100% sure but I think that the putouts record was broken by Beckly in beetween retirment and election
as well as the career records for Games (2,276), AB (9,101), Runs (1,719), Hits (2,995), TB (4,062), 1B (2,598), 2B (528), 3B (124), HR (97), RBI (1,879), BB (952), 1B (2,246), XBH (749), and Times on Base (3,979).
why mention the same career records for the cubs and MLB
there wasn't too many records that Barnes didn't have since professional leagues were brand new,
John this ones still a MLB record
retired with the single season record for runs per game 1.91 in 1876
and the others are not that draw-dropping to add to their plaques.
I would have put them all on but I can understand your position on Aviral and part of Baker but with Appling and the other part of Baker I just don't get. (this will definatly sound weird coming from me but ) we're talking a bought a shortstop and before the 90's (I don't want to deal with ARod, Jeter ext. yet ) he had the 4th highest BA for a shortstop and Baker's 307 career batting avg was the 4th highest BA for a third baseman
John I'm not 100% sure but I think that the putouts record was broken by Beckly in beetween retirment and election
It appears that Anson still had it, but the there is still a problem with the number. The number should be 22,568. Where I got that other number, I haven't a clue.
as well as the career records for Games (2,276), AB (9,101), Runs (1,719), Hits (2,995), TB (4,062), 1B (2,598), 2B (528), 3B (124), HR (97), RBI (1,879), BB (952), 1B (2,246), XBH (749), and Times on Base (3,979).
why mention the same career records for the cubs and MLB
Because the numbers are different.
there wasn't too many records that Barnes didn't have since professional leagues were brand new,
John this ones still a MLB record
retired with the single season record for runs per game 1.91 in 1876
That's different. I'll add that.
and the others are not that draw-dropping to add to their plaques.
I would have put them all on
It's not that I don't want to place them on the plaque, but the plaques are bulky as it is.
but I can understand your position on Aviral and part of Baker but with Appling and the other part of Baker I just don't get. (this will definatly sound weird coming from me but ) we're talking a bought a shortstop and before the 90's (I don't want to deal with ARod, Jeter ext. yet ) he had the 4th highest BA for a shortstop and Baker's 307 career batting avg was the 4th highest BA for a third baseman
You make a good case, yest. They have been added.
At his induction, he holds numerous career records (combined NA and NL), including runs (1,996), RBI (2,076), total bases (4,574), hits (3,418), doubles (581), games played (2,523), and putouts (22,568).
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as well as the career records for Games (2,276), AB (9,101), Runs (1,719), Hits (2,995), TB (4,062), 1B (2,598), 2B (528), 3B (124), HR (97), RBI (1,879), BB (952), 1B (2,246), XBH (749), and Times on Base (3,979).
John since these stats are on the Cubs leader wouldn't the MLB leader be bigger
elected with the career record for at bats 10277
elected with the career record for singles 2598
elected with the career record for extra base hits 820
elected with the career record for times on base 4433
and putouts (22,568)
why total putouts over 1B putouts
why total putouts over 1B putouts
Why not?
John Isn't hitting 300 24 times one of the most amazing things in his record?
There's a lot of amazing records that I could add, but his plaque is big enough as it is compared to many of the others. Look at Babe Ruth: I could make up one thread solely based on his achievements1 Sometimes, you have to know when to say enough.
IOW, if I add it, I'll probably have to remove something else.
205 triples (only 8 people have 200 triples)
2296 hits
A terrific power hitter for his time, the left-handed Brouthers retired with the highest career SLG (.519), OPS (.943), and Adj. OPS+ (170) of any player.
shouldn’t that go at the end
retired with the highest career SLG (.519)
technically it should be 5195 which was his slugging% when he retired the first time when he played 2 games in 1904 he brought it down to 5192 but Napoleon Lajoie held it for a while after that
TF Brown
retired with the single season record for saves 13 in 1911
first to pitch 4 shutouts in a row 6/13 6/25 7/2 7/4 1908
20 wins 6 times
Jessie Burkett
retired with the single season record for hits 240 in 1896
2850 hits 415 obp
Roy Campanella
242 HRs
He led NL catchers in total chances 6 times, putouts 6 times
both NL records at retirement (he’s tied with Johnny Kling by putouts) (putouts broken by Gary Carter)(I’m not sure a bought the chances accepted except what was mentioned could have been a tie)
retired with the NL record for most consecutive seasons with 100 games caught 9
Max Carey
Stolen Bases (1913, 1915-18, 1920, 1922-25)
a ML record since broken by Rickey
nine times in total chances, and putouts
the putouts is a ML record since tied by Ashburn
retired with the NL record for career assists 339
retired with the NL record for career total chances accepted 6702
yest:
I'll get to your new selections sometime this week. I might do something about Anson, too.
Rixey gets a third cap for the Reds and Ashburn bumps the Phillies into a tie for 5th place.
<u>1968 Franchise Cap Standings</u>
1T. Giants - 11 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Mathewson, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
1T. Indians - 11 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Speaker)
3. Cubs - 10 (Anson, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Sheckard)
4. Braves - 7 (Barnes, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spalding, ESutton, GWright)
5T. Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
5T. Cardinals - 6 (Caruthers, Frisch, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Slaughter)
5T. Phillies - 6 (Alexander, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, Thompson)
5T. Tigers - 6 (Cobb, Crawford, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Newhouser)
9T. Dodgers - 5 (Campanella, PWReese, JRobinson, Vance, Wheat)
9T. Pirates - 5 (Carey, Clarke, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
9T. White Sox - 5 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh)
9T. Yankees - 5 (Dickey, Dimaggio, Gehrig, Ruffing, Ruth)
13 .Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
14T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
14T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
14T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
14T.Reds - 3 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey)
14T.Twins - 3 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson)
18T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
18T.Red Sox - 2 (JCollins, TWilliams)
18T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
18T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
18T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
18T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
18T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
18T.Saint Louis Stars - 2 (Suttles, WWells)
27T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
27T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
27T.Cuban Stars - 1 (Dihigo)
27T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
27T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
27T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
27T.Kansas City Monarchs - 1 (Rogan)
27T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
27T.Orioles - 1 (Wallace)
27T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
27T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
27T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
27T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
Seriously, though, Musial batted clean-up for the Cardinals as a 21-year-old rookie in the 1942 series (against the pre-Berra Yankees). They lost that series, but came back to win 3 rings in the next four seasons.
Berra played in a whopping 14 World Series winning ten of them.
Welcome to the HOM guys!
<u>1969 Franchise Cap Standings</u>
1T. Giants - 11 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Mathewson, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
1T. Indians - 11 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Speaker)
3. Cubs - 10 (Anson, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Sheckard)
4T. Braves - 7 (Barnes, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spalding, ESutton, GWright)
4T. Cardinals - 7 (Caruthers, Frisch, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Slaughter)
6T. Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
6T. Phillies - 6 (Alexander, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, Thompson)
6T. Tigers - 6 (Cobb, Crawford, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Newhouser)
6T. Yankees - 6 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, Gehrig, Ruffing, Ruth)
10T. Dodgers - 5 (Campanella, PWReese, JRobinson, Vance, Wheat)
10T. Pirates - 5 (Carey, Clarke, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
10T. White Sox - 5 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh)
13 .Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
14T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
14T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
14T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
14T.Reds - 3 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey)
14T.Twins - 3 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson)
18T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
18T.Red Sox - 2 (JCollins, TWilliams)
18T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
18T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
18T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
18T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
18T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
18T.Saint Louis Stars - 2 (Suttles, WWells)
27T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
27T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
27T.Cuban Stars - 1 (Dihigo)
27T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
27T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
27T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
27T.Kansas City Monarchs - 1 (Rogan)
27T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
27T.Orioles - 1 (Wallace)
27T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
27T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
27T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
27T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
You've listed Berra as a Stats NL outfielder in 1958.
Also, while I don't have the STATS sourcebook in front of me, I'm guessing Musial was named to the NL outfield more than once. I'm also guessing Berra was named catcher a few times.
I totally missed that. I was more in a rush last week than normal. :-) I'll have them corrected sometime today.
total chances 9 times, putouts 9 times
both Major league records
500 putouts a record 4 times(no one else has more then one he also has 2 more seasons with over 490)
308 career avg
Stan Musial
331 avg
as well as the NL career records for Games (3, 026), AB (10,972), Hits (3,630), RBI (1,951), 2B (725), TB (6,134), Times on Base (5,282), and consecutive games played (896); he also ended his career with the ML record for TB (6,134), XBH (1,377), and Runs (1,949).
He only had the NL record Cobb held the ML record
why is TB mentioned twice
Yogi Berra
WS record 49 singles 63 games caught 457 putouts
385 total hrs 285 avg 2150 hits
retired with the AL record for C putouts 8723 and chances accepted 9520
(he led the AL 8 times in games caught and chances accepted, 6 times in double plays, 8 times in putouts, 3 times in assists, and 1 time in fielding percentage)
the Double Plays is a ML record
He retired with the ML records for catching in consecutive games (148 games during 1957-59)
He retired with the ML records for catching in consecutive games with out an error (148 games during 1957-59)
That's something like 'elect-me vote unanimous' and also includes people like Dan Brouthers and -- strangely enough -- 2nd-place finisher Christy Mathewson (Lajoie finished ahead of him, but also had a 3rd place vote).
(list above not necessarily complete -- I'm just listing examples).
I'll think about working something out in regard to the Hornsbys in the Hall.
yest:
No, I haven't forgotten about your selections. :-)
The Dodgers win a cap to keep pace with their rivals in the Bronx.
The Indians and Dodgers did meet in the 1920 World Series, but Wynn and Snider never met in the fall classic as Wynn's pennant with the Indians coincided with a rare Dodger absence. Snider flied out to RF in their only All-Star game confrontation.
<u>1970 Franchise Cap Standings</u>
1. Indians - 12 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Speaker, EWynn)
2. Giants - 11 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Mathewson, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
3. Cubs - 10 (Anson, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Sheckard)
4T. Braves - 7 (Barnes, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spalding, ESutton, GWright)
4T. Cardinals - 7 (Caruthers, Frisch, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Slaughter)
6T. Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
6T. Dodgers - 6 (Campanella, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, Vance, Wheat)
6T. Phillies - 6 (Alexander, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, Thompson)
6T. Tigers - 6 (Cobb, Crawford, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Newhouser)
6T. Yankees - 6 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, Gehrig, Ruffing, Ruth)
11T.Pirates - 5 (Carey, Clarke, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
11T.White Sox - 5 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh)
13 .Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
14T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
14T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
14T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
14T.Reds - 3 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey)
14T.Twins - 3 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson)
18T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
18T.Red Sox - 2 (JCollins, TWilliams)
18T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
18T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
18T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
18T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
18T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
18T.Saint Louis Stars - 2 (Suttles, WWells)
27T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
27T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
27T.Cuban Stars - 1 (Dihigo)
27T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
27T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
27T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
27T.Kansas City Monarchs - 1 (Rogan)
27T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
27T.Orioles - 1 (Wallace)
27T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
27T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
27T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
27T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
<u>1971 Franchise Cap Standings</u>
1. Indians - 12 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Speaker, EWynn)
2T. Giants - 11 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Mathewson, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
2T. Cubs - 11 (Anson, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Sheckard)
4. Braves - 8 (Barnes, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spahn, Spalding, ESutton, GWright)
5. Cardinals - 7 (Caruthers, Frisch, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Slaughter)
6T. Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
6T. Dodgers - 6 (Campanella, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, Vance, Wheat)
6T. Phillies - 6 (Alexander, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, Thompson)
6T. Tigers - 6 (Cobb, Crawford, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Newhouser)
6T. Yankees - 6 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, Gehrig, Ruffing, Ruth)
11T.Pirates - 5 (Carey, Clarke, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
11T.White Sox - 5 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh)
13 .Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
14T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
14T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
14T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
14T.Reds - 3 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey)
14T.Twins - 3 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson)
18T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
18T.Red Sox - 2 (JCollins, TWilliams)
18T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
18T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
18T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
18T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
18T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
18T.Saint Louis Stars - 2 (Suttles, WWells)
27T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
27T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
27T.Cuban Stars - 1 (Dihigo)
27T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
27T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
27T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
27T.Kansas City Monarchs - 1 (Rogan)
27T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
27T.Orioles - 1 (Wallace)
27T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
27T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
27T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
27T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
Between Nichols and Spahn, more than 50 years.
The SABR Biographical Research Cmte has revised Paul Hines' birth date from 1852 to 1855, making him 17 to 36 rather than 20 to 39 years old during his major league career.
There have scores if not hundredsd of one-year revisions during the Hall of Merit years, including Glasscock and McVey.
By my count there are 23 right now. 9 are taken (some by Hall of Merit participants).
The 9 taken are:
Wes Ferrell (TomH)
Joe Start (Ken Fischer)
Lip Pike (Sean Gilman)
Harry Stovey (Henson information exp. 7/06)
Heinie Groh (Andrew McDonald exp. 10/06)
Stan Hack (Spike Ballparks exp. 10/06)
Sherry Magee (macknife13 exp. 10/06)
Joe Jackson (Dave Fleitz exp. 11/06)
Bill Dahlen (Cyril Morong exp. 1/07)
The others, Charlie Bennett, Cal McVey, Bob Caruthers, Deacon White, Ross Barnes, Hardy Richardson, Ezra Sutton, Jack Glasscock, Dickey Pearce, Jimmy Sheckard, George Gore and Paul Hines would cost a total of $125 to buy (all $10 except Caruthers, who is $15). We've essentially got Ferrell, Start, Pike already. I don't think Andrew McDonald is one of our guys, but maybe I'm wrong.
Just an idea - I don't know if it's better for us to just sponsor them individually if we want, or to take up a collection and then sponsor them all at once. Or maybe we shouldn't bother . . .
The other thing I was thinking of doing is maybe asking Sean if we could work out some kind of deal where all HoMers would get a special icon on their page, kind of like the Hall of Fame thing. Again, just floating ideas . . .
<u>1972 Franchise Cap Standings</u>
1. Indians - 12 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Speaker, EWynn)
2T. Giants - 11 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Mathewson, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
2T. Cubs - 11 (Anson, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Sheckard)
4. Braves - 8 (Barnes, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spahn, Spalding, ESutton, GWright)
5T. Cardinals - 7 (Caruthers, Frisch, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Slaughter)
5T. Dodgers - 7 (Campanella, Koufax, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, Vance, Wheat)
5T. Phillies - 7 (Alexander, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, RRoberts, Thompson)
8T. Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
8T. Tigers - 6 (Cobb, Crawford, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Newhouser)
8T. Yankees - 6 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, Gehrig, Ruffing, Ruth)
11T.Pirates - 5 (Carey, Clarke, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
11T.White Sox - 5 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh)
13 .Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
14T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
14T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
14T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
14T.Red Sox - 3 (JCollins, Doerr, TWilliams)
14T.Reds - 3 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey)
14T.Twins - 3 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson)
19T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
19T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
19T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
19T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
19T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
19T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
19T.Saint Louis Stars - 2 (Suttles, WWells)
27T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
27T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
27T.Cuban Stars - 1 (Dihigo)
27T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
27T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
27T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
27T.Kansas City Monarchs - 1 (Rogan)
27T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
27T.Orioles - 1 (Wallace)
27T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
27T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
27T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
27T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
yest, I promise to make those updates this week.
1. Indians - 12 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Speaker, EWynn)
2T. Giants - 11 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Mathewson, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
2T. Cubs - 11 (Anson, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Sheckard)
4. Braves - 8 (Barnes, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spahn, Spalding, ESutton, GWright)
5T. Cardinals - 7 (Caruthers, Frisch, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Slaughter)
5T. Dodgers - 7 (Campanella, Koufax, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, Vance, Wheat)
5T. Phillies - 7 (Alexander, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, RRoberts, Thompson)
5T. Yankees - 7 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, WFord, Gehrig, Ruffing, Ruth)
9T. Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
9T. Tigers - 6 (Cobb, Crawford, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Newhouser)
11T.Pirates - 5 (Carey, Clarke, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
11T.White Sox - 5 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh)
13 .Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
14T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
14T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
14T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
14T.Red Sox - 3 (JCollins, Doerr, TWilliams)
14T.Reds - 3 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey)
14T.Saint Louis Stars - 3 (CPBell, Suttles, WWells)
14T.Twins - 3 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson)
21T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
21T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
21T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
21T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
21T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
21T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
27T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
27T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
27T.Cuban Stars - 1 (Dihigo)
27T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
27T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
27T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
27T.Kansas City Monarchs - 1 (Rogan)
27T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
27T.Orioles - 1 (Wallace)
27T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
27T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
27T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
27T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
Mordecai Brown biography
Do visit, at least for the cover illustration of the three-finger grip: hand, fingers, baseball.
total chances 9 times, putouts 9 times
both Major league records
500 putouts a record 4 times(no one else has more then one he also has 2 more seasons with over 490)
308 career avg
Done.
Yogi Berra
WS record 49 singles 63 games caught 457 putouts
385 total hrs 285 avg 2150 hits
retired with the AL record for C putouts 8723 and chances accepted 9520
(he led the AL 8 times in games caught and chances accepted, 6 times in double plays, 8 times in putouts, 3 times in assists, and 1 time in fielding percentage)
the Double Plays is a ML record
He retired with the ML records for catching in consecutive games (148 games during 1957-59)
He retired with the ML records for catching in consecutive games with out an error (148 games during 1957-59)
I did them all except for his lifetime BA and hits. While impressive for his position, I didn't feel it was that impressive to add it to a pretty full plaque as it is.
331 avg
Done
as well as the NL career records for Games (3, 026), AB (10,972), Hits (3,630), RBI (1,951), 2B (725), TB (6,134), Times on Base (5,282), and consecutive games played (896); he also ended his career with the ML record for TB (6,134), XBH (1,377), and Runs (1,949).
He only had the NL record Cobb held the ML record
why is TB mentioned twice
I'm assuming you're referring to Runs, which you're 100% correct.
As for TB, don't know what happened there.
205 triples (only 8 people have 200 triples)
2296 hits
I included the triples, but the hits wasn't "sexy" enough, though it was impressive.
A terrific power hitter for his time, the left-handed Brouthers retired with the highest career SLG (.519), OPS (.943), and Adj. OPS+ (170) of any player.
shouldn’t that go at the end
retired with the highest career SLG (.519)
technically it should be 5195 which was his slugging% when he retired the first time when he played 2 games in 1904 he brought it down to 5192 but Napoleon Lajoie held it for a while after that
I'm ignoring 1904. As for the placement of his records, I'm allowed to be creative every once and a while. :-)
TF Brown
retired with the single season record for saves 13 in 1911
first to pitch 4 shutouts in a row 6/13 6/25 7/2 7/4 1908
20 wins 6 times
Included everything, except the shutouts since they were already there (though I did include the year).
Jessie Burkett
retired with the single season record for hits 240 in 1896
2850 hits 415 obp
Included everything except the hits.
Roy Campanella
242 HRs
He led NL catchers in total chances 6 times, putouts 6 times
both NL records at retirement (he’s tied with Johnny Kling by putouts) (putouts broken by Gary Carter)(I’m not sure a bought the chances accepted except what was mentioned could have been a tie)
retired with the NL record for most consecutive seasons with 100 games caught 9
Max Carey
Stolen Bases (1913, 1915-18, 1920, 1922-25)
a ML record since broken by Rickey
nine times in total chances, and putouts
the putouts is a ML record since tied by Ashburn
retired with the NL record for career assists 339
retired with the NL record for career total chances accepted 6702
Done.
Thanks for your help again, yest. If you have any more additions, please just give me one plaque at a time to work on from now on. I'll be more inclined to correct them right away because it would be less overwhelming.
Thanks!
he hit over.300 eleven times
your counting 85 hits in 275 at bats???
220 triples (only 8 people have 200 triples)
2672 hits
35 game hit streak in 1895
hit 312/386/429 in leagues that were 275/340/361
he hit over.300 eleven times
your counting 85 hits in 275 at bats???
I must have picked that up from a reference book. Obviously, you're correct, so I fixed that.
220 triples (only 8 people have 200 triples)
2672 hits
35 game hit streak in 1895
hit 312/386/429 in leagues that were 275/340/361
I included the triples, but left the other stuff out (though I included his lifetime BA).
Saves (11 in 1911)
he had 13 saves in 1911 acording to Baseball referance the ML record as I previosly mentioned
Sorry about that, yest.
pitchers triple crown 1889
I have just discovered this forum.
I have a website on Martín Dihigo (http://www.geocities.com/martindihigo) . And I would like to talk about some topics on his career.
First, the difference between Azules de Veracruz and Aguila de Veracruz. Dihigo arrived to Mexico to play for Aguila in 1937. He won the championship, threw the first no hitter in Mexican League recorded history (The Mexican league started in 1925 but had official stats until 1937). In 1937, he started, completed and won the 3 games in a final series for the title against Agrario in 6 days. He returned to Aguila in 1938, and won the title again. He was the batting champion and won the pitching Triple Crown.
At the end of 1939, Aguila started a movement to jump the Mexican league and start a new one: generally known as the cismatic league. Thats was the year when Jorge Pasquel entered to the Mexican League. With Aguila out of the Mexican League he decided to start a new baseball team in Veracruz to play in the Mexican League and he called that team Azules de Veracruz. Pasquel hired Dihigo to play and manage the Azules team. To destroy the cismatic League, Pasquel bought the 2 most important baseball parks: the Parque Delta in Mexico city, and Parque Deportivo Veracruzano in Veracruz.
Aguila was the most traditional and most followed team in Veracruz. With the Veracruz park owned by Pasquel, Aguila didnt have a place to play so the fans and local newspapers started a bad campaign on the Azules team so Pasquel, after a few games, preferred to take the team out of Veracruz and took it to Mexico city to play at Parque Delta. Aguila stood out of the Mexican League until 1949.
The most representative team in Dihigos career was the Habana Reds in the Cuban League. He was a wild hearted Habanista. So his cap should be the one of Habana Reds
César
Monterrey, Méxicohttp://www.geocities.com/martindihigo
Thanks for the info, GutoGonz!
yest:
Clarkson's plaque has been amended.
finished in the top 3 in slugging 9 times
retired with the career record for walks 1002
retired with the career record for triples 233
Dihigo's cap switched to the Habana Reds.
<u>1974 Franchise Cap Standings</u>
1. Indians - 12 (Averill, Boudreau, Coveleski, Doby, Feller, WFerrell, Flick, JJackson, Lajoie, Lemon, Speaker, EWynn)
2T. Giants - 11 (Connor, GDavis, Ewing, Hubbell, Keefe, Mathewson, McGinnity, Ott, Rusie, Terry, Ward)
2T. Cubs - 11 (Anson, TFBrown, Clarkson, Dahlen, Gore, Griffith, Hack, Hartnett, BiHerman, KKelly, Sheckard)
4. Braves - 9 (Barnes, Mathews, McVey, Nichols, O'Rourke, Spahn, Spalding, ESutton, GWright)
5. Yankees - 8 (Berra, Dickey, Dimaggio, WFord, Gehrig, Mantle, Ruffing, Ruth)
6T. Cardinals - 7 (Caruthers, Frisch, Hornsby, Medwick, Mize, Musial, Slaughter)
6T. Dodgers - 7 (Campanella, Koufax, PWReese, JRobinson, Snider, Vance, Wheat)
6T. Phillies - 7 (Alexander, Ashburn, Delahanty, Hamilton, Magee, RRoberts, Thompson)
9T. Athletics - 6 (FBaker, Cochrane, Foxx, Grove, Plank, Simmons)
9T. Tigers - 6 (Cobb, Crawford, Gehringer, Greenberg, Heilmann, Newhouser)
11T.Pirates - 5 (Carey, Clarke, Vaughn, Wagner, PWaner)
11T.White Sox - 5 (Appling, ECollins, Faber, Lyons, Walsh)
13 .Buffalo Bisons - 4 (Brouthers, Galvin, Richardson, DWhite)
14T.Baltimore Orioles (NL) - 3 (Jennings, Keeler, Kelley)
14T.Chicago American Giants - 3 - (WFoster, PHill, Torriente)
14T.Homestead Grays - 3 (RBrown, JGibson, BLeonard)
14T.Red Sox - 3 (JCollins, Doerr, TWilliams)
14T.Reds - 3 (Groh, McPhee, Rixey)
14T.Saint Louis Stars - 3 (CPBell, Suttles, WWells)
14T.Twins - 3 (Cronin, Goslin, WJohnson)
21T.Baltimore Black Sox - 2 (Beckwith, JWilson)
21T.Brooklyn Atlantics - 2 (Pearce, Start)
21T.Brooklyn Royal Giants - 2 (HRJohnson, Santop)
21T.Cleveland Spiders - 2 (Burkett, CYoung)
21T.New York Lincoln Giants - 2 (Lloyd, SJWilliams)
21T.Providence Grays - 2 (Hines, Radbourne)
27T.Cleveland Blues - 1 (Glasscock)
27T.Cuban Giants - 1 (FGrant)
27T.Detroit Stars - 1 (Stearnes)
27T.Detroit Wolverines - 1 (Bennett)
27T.Habana Reds - 1 (Dihigo)
27T.Indianapolis ABC's - 1 (Charleston)
27T.Kansas City Monarchs - 1 (Rogan)
27T.Newark Eagles - 1 (Irvin)
27T.Orioles - 1 (Wallace)
27T.Philadelphia Athletics (AA) - 1 (Stovey)
27T.Philadelphia Giants - 1 (RFoster)
27T.Pittburgh Crawfords - 1 (Paige)
27T.Saint Louis Brown Stockings (NA/NL) - 1 (Pike)
finished in the top 3 in slugging 9 times
retired with the career record for walks 1002
retired with the career record for triples 233
I'm adding the walks record, but leaving off the slugging tidbit and the triples record (the latter was already there :-).
retired with the Major Leauge record for most career chances accepted 12350
retired with the Major Leauge record for most career chances 13430
1064 walks
100 runs 6 times
a 42 game hit streak in 1894
retired with the Major Leauge record for most career chances accepted 12350
retired with the Major Leauge record for most career chances 13430
1064 walks
100 runs 6 times
a 42 game hit streak in 1894
Amended, yest.
hit 300 9 years in a row
295 batting avg
had a 33 game hit streak in 1893 (then a record broken the next year)
hit 300 9 years in a row
295 batting avg
had a 33 game hit streak in 1893 (then a record broken the next year)
I added the first one, yest.
John I can't get acses to the plaques G-L,M-R, and S-Z
When the computer techs start revamping the site, that's what you will get. :-(
are you sure cause I don't see it on the plaque
Heh. I forgot to update. :-[
Paul Wendt or someone else equally knowledgeable: Did Mordecai Brown go by his own name primarily or by Three Finger Brown during his professional career? Thanks in advance!
3F Brown
he left the game with the ML single-season record for saves with 13 in 1911)
Jessie Burkett
he left the game with the single-season record for hits with 240 in 1896
3F Brown
he left the game with the ML single-season record for saves with 13 in 1911)
Jessie Burkett
he left the game with the single-season record for hits with 240 in 1896
I think I'll keep them the way they are, yest. We don't have to follow a strict set of rules for each plaque, though I do have a template just to save me some time writing them up.
His most memorable game was Hartnett’s ”Homer in the Gloamin’,” which helped his Cubs grab the pennant in ’38.
His most memorable game was Hartnett’s ”Homer in the Gloamin’,” which helped his Cubs grab the pennant in ’38 by hitting a home run with 2 out in the bottom of the 9th
The left-handed slugger showed catchers what could be done with the new offensive weapon (the home run)
The left-handed slugger showed catchers what could be done with the new offensive weapon (the home run (236 total))
hit 297/370/489
caught 100 games 12 times
record 452 consecutive chances without a error (broken by Berra)
retired with the most career NL putouts (7292) and chances accepted (8546)
The plaque for Wes Ferrell seems to have disappeared.
>:o
Boy, that's annoying!
Thankfully, there are guys like you and yest who have their eyes peeled for this type of computer craziness.
I changed it a little, but kept the heart of your amendment, yest.
The left-handed slugger showed catchers what could be done with the new offensive weapon (the home run (236 total))
Done.
hit 297/370/489
caught 100 games 12 times
record 452 consecutive chances without a error (broken by Berra)
retired with the most career NL putouts (7292) and chances accepted (8546)
I added everything except his batting line.
Thanks!
Retired with the single season record for games started 75 in 1883
Retired with the major league career records for wins, games, innings, games started, complete games, shutouts, and batters faced.
Retired with the major league career records for wins (364), games (705) , innings(6003.3) , games started (689), complete games (646), shutouts (57), and batters faced (25234).
You got it.
Retired with the single season record for games started 75 in 1883
Missed it, yest.
had a .67 era in 27 IP in the 1920 WS
20 wins 5 times
Paul Wendt or someone else equally knowledgeable: Did Mordecai Brown go by his own name primarily or by Three Finger Brown during his professional career? Thanks in advance!
You need someone more knowledgeable on his time and league, as I have read essentially no contemporary coverage and I haven't read knowledgeable discussion of this one. Cliff Blau. And the contemporary coverage only shows what he was commonly called, how he would have been known to many fans in his time, maybe only in one place or only home or only away.
FWIW, I never call him Three Finger and I have sometime missed him under "T." in an alphabetical list. It seems to me that our reference works go overboard with nicknames.
Note, I'm sure that some nicknames were established only after their player was established in the majors, so reading all the contemporary coverage of a few early seasons may be misleading.
Charley (Old Hoss) Radbourn(e)
In his SABR biography, Fred Ivor-Campbell says that the great 1884 season "secured his nickname 'Old Hoss'" --one instance of what I guess must be common, a player nicknamed for major league achievement(s). Ivor-Campbell gives nicknames "(Rad, Old Hoss)" and generally calls him Rad. He also says that Rad "probably spelled his name without the final 'e'" and that he "was known in his home town simply as Charles Radbourn, Jr." (at what age?). He retired in mid-1891 "home to Bloomington [IL] to operate Radbourn's Place, a billiard parlor-saloon he had purchased in 1887."
--Frederick Ivor-Campbell, "Charles Radbourn(e), Jr" in Ivor-Campbell, Tiemann, and Rucker, eds., Baseball's First Stars (SABR, 1996), p131-132.
retired with the most games in the WS by a catcher
hit 300 10 times
taught Yogi how to catch
Due to soaring prices for scrap metals, I presume.
;-)
retired with the most games in the WS by a catcher
How many, yest?
Well, I guess I'll take off the "e" again. Confusing, isn't it?
Thanks, Paul!
hit 300 10 times
taught Yogi how to catch
I included the former, but not the latter (Yogi wasn't a legendary figure yet in '53).
;-)
:-)
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