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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: July 23, 2006 at 10:39 PM (#2108874)I don't know, but I would sure tend to believe the earliest date.
Yes, he was the notorious bat-thrower, but only for about a year or so. He had a bad middle finger (don't remember which hand) which causedthe bat throwing, and it pretty much ceased when the finger healed up.
Not a HoMer, won't make my ballot. Sorry, Tony. But a great hitter for a few years. As a peak voter, however, the peak was not quite high enough and the career not quite long enough. Dick Allen was a rookie the same year if I recall and has the kind of peak you need with their respective length of career.
Wearing a white glove, I think.
Were they "golf gloves" in that day?
B-R.com says 1938. If that's the case, is there a case for MLE credit for him?
http://www.tonyoliva.com/bio.html
1962 would be Tony's "look at me" season in AA. Tony had a shot at making the team in 1963 but didn't out of spring training and he was bad the first couple months in AAA. He hit the snot out of the ball the rest of the year in AAA. There might be an argument for 1/2 season of minor league credit but I doubt it gets him any closer to my ballot.
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