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Monday, October 31, 2011

Please Excuse the Mess

It’s update time. The season is over and a slower news cycle is upon us. It’s time for me to roll up my sleeves and work on the site. First up is the transition of our Content Management System (CMS) from Expression Engine‘s 1.x series to its 2.x series. I had hoped to accomplish this upgrade last March but, unfortunately, some of the third-party scripts the site uses had not yet been updated to the new version, my personal life was much too busy and, frankly, I did not have sufficient funds to pay for a server upgrade and all the script upgrades. Although money is still tight, things aren’t as busy and all the scripts I need are now available. It’s time to get cracking.

The CMS software was almost completely rewritten in this update. As a result, many of their native and third party scripts, and quite a few of my own scripts, either need to be updated or replaced with something new. I’ve already rewritten my homebrewed scripts. Unfortunately a few third-party scripts have no direct upgrade path, so I will need to pay for a replacement or I will need to write a replacement myself. Luckily many of the replacements are actually superior, so in a lot of cases we’ll end up with better functionality as a result.

Getting BBTF updated is a rather large, time-consuming undertaking. I’ve done some trial runs on my development server and I must say the upgrades are not trivial and the process is often problematic. I’ve learned that the upgrade is better done in steps rather than trying to do it all at once by stringing together a series of upgrade scripts. It is also far easier to troubleshoot problems when the process is done piecemeal. This does cause a few problems because, with my schedule, some portions of the updates will need to be done over a number of days. Although I will try to make the transition as inconspicuous to you as I can, my tests suggest some things may not be available (like bookmarking, categories) for a longer time than I’d prefer. 

As in most anything, planning makes perfect. In preparation for the conversion to 2.x, a few items (polling, for one example) will need to be disabled. To keep you apprised of problems, I am creating this thread specially for the upgrade process. Although most of the upgrades will be done in the wee hours, there may be times I will need to take the site offline for short periods during the day. I will try to post a notice at least 24 hours in advance of any planned outage.

With the size of the site’s database I have found less problems crop up during the upgrade when I reduce the number of fields in a few of the tables. Since changing the structures of some of the underlying databases also will make the upgrade of the archives and search features easier, I have decided to make most of these changes prior to the conversion. Again, from my testing, this changeover will, for the most part, be transparent. Nevertheless, I warn you that a few of the older/lesser trafficked blogs may go offline for short periods. I also warn you that the site will most likely be offline for most of the day I run the vendor’s conversion script. I will try to schedule this downtime in late November well before the Winter Meetings. Once again, I will try to give you sufficient notice to lessen the shock (especially for our most hardcore Primates). 

Once the conversion to 2.x is completed I will incrementally update the site. Unlike past upgrades I will try to keep the site’s architecture about the same and will simply incorporate new features into the existing site design. My plan also includes upgrading the site’s servers after the holidays. As I mentioned above, I had hoped to upgrade the servers last March but unfortunately with a wedding on horizon, I didn’t have the time or money to get it done. In the interim I was able to tweak the server configurations to get the site’s performance up to a passable level. I fear, however, with some of the features I have planned, our current servers will not be up to the task. I will do my best to get our servers upgraded this January. 

Anyway, with less stuff going on in my personal life this winter, I hope to use my time wisely to make the site more useful for next season. I hope you will find my additions worthwhile. Thanks for your patience through the process.

Jim

UPDATE: 12/9/2012 - The updates are underway. Due to requests from the Hall of Merit regulars, some of the updates were postponed until after balloting


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   101. Greg Pope Posted: January 10, 2012 at 01:21 PM (#4033295)
hot topics now says 103, and lists my post as last...and I see 100 posts instead of 99.

Yeah, I'm seeing the same thing as you.
   102. Mr. Hotfoot Jackson (gef, talking mongoose) Posted: January 10, 2012 at 01:29 PM (#4033306)
It's a multiple machines thing for me, too.


Didn't log on at home last night or this a.m., but I can only assume the same would've happened for me as well.
   103. SoSH U at work Posted: January 10, 2012 at 01:38 PM (#4033324)
Finally, my separate work and home handles is paying off in a big way. Woo hoo.

   104. Padgett Posted: January 10, 2012 at 01:39 PM (#4033325)
Apologies if this has already been addressed, but is there a reason why external links are now being redirected via the "http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/?URL=" prefix? It's now very difficult to make out what a link is by hovering over the linked text, and it also breaks the browser's color scheme for new and visited URLs.
   105. Greg Pope Posted: January 10, 2012 at 02:01 PM (#4033353)
Finally, my separate work and home handles is paying off in a big way. Woo hoo.

You know, you're exactly who I thought of when I realized what was going on.
   106. jimfurtado Posted: January 10, 2012 at 02:53 PM (#4033396)
Apologies if this has already been addressed, but is there a reason why external links are now being redirected via the "http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/?URL=" prefix? It's now very difficult to make out what a link is by hovering over the linked text, and it also breaks the browser's color scheme for new and visited URLs.

This change was made to discourage spammers from adding links to to comments. It's a growing problem and it requires more of my time than I'd like.

As for the login issue, I have tried to replicate the login problem on the many computers, phones, and tablets at my disposal and can't. Has everyone tried deleting cookies and checked the "Auto-login on future visits" box when logging back in?
   107. jimfurtado Posted: January 10, 2012 at 02:58 PM (#4033402)
This is weird...hot topics says this thread has 102 posts, but I can only see up to 99. Even if I click on the "Last" -- which theoretically would take me to the second page -- I still only see one page and 99 posts. (And the URL correctly has the /P100/ on the end, too.)

When I rewrote the Hot Topics script, I didn't add a check for Open/Closed comments. I also started closing comments instead of deleting them recently. Put the two together...

I will fix the script. Nice catch, BTW.

Thanks to everyone for taking the time to point out these issue. I really appreciate it.
   108. Jick Posted: January 10, 2012 at 03:05 PM (#4033410)
One weird thing I've noticed is that if I click a link on the Hot Topics bar, the link to the comments thread from the article posting itself stays blue, as if I'd never visited the page. The same is true in reverse. Not a huge problem, but I thought I'd bring it up nonetheless.
   109. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 10, 2012 at 03:11 PM (#4033416)
Has everyone tried deleting cookies and checked the "Auto-login on future visits" box when logging back in?


Yes, but it doesn't help.

(Work PC and iPhone.)
   110. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 10, 2012 at 03:11 PM (#4033417)
When the bookmarks come back, will all of our saved bookmarks come back as well? I had a few things tagged on there that I'm not sure I'd be able to find again in the archive search, and I'd hate to lose them.
   111. Padgett Posted: January 10, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4033439)
This change was made to discourage spammers from adding links to to comments. It's a growing problem and it requires more of my time than I'd like.
Would using the OnMouseDown event handler do the trick? That way the URL would display normally in the browser but clicking on the link would activate the BTF redirect to deal with the comment spam.
   112. Greg Pope Posted: January 10, 2012 at 03:55 PM (#4033456)
Has everyone tried deleting cookies and checked the "Auto-login on future visits" box when logging back in?


Yes, but it doesn't help.

Doesn't help me either.
   113. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: January 10, 2012 at 04:01 PM (#4033465)
Yes, but it doesn't help.

Doesn't help me either.
Me three.
   114. UCCF Posted: January 12, 2012 at 12:29 PM (#4035147)
I'm having the multiple machine problem as well - I logged in from my work computer, then had to re-log in from home. Now I'm back at work, and being asked to log in again. But I noticed over the weekend (when I was home) that I wasn't being asked to log in repeatedly from the same machine.

I tried deleting cookies, and the box is checked.

(I'm on Chrome if it matters.)
   115. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head Posted: January 12, 2012 at 02:33 PM (#4035345)
I get this when I switch between my iPad with the onboard Safari browser, and my Windows 7 PC using Firefox. I've checked the boxes too. I haven't deleted cookies.
   116. just plain joe Posted: January 12, 2012 at 02:56 PM (#4035384)
For what it's worth I no longer have to log in at work, where we use IE7, but still have to log in every day at home where I use IE8. I have deleted cookies and checked the boxes at home but haven't deleted cookies at work in years, nor have I checked the boxes.
   117. Greg Pope Posted: January 13, 2012 at 09:28 AM (#4035979)
As a follow up, I only used my work computer to log in the last 3 days. Everything was "normal". I logged in 3 days ago and have not had to log in any time since then. It's a laptop, so I've brought it from work to home and back and never needed to log in, with multiple re-boots.

Yesterday evening I logged in on my home computer. This morning I needed to log in on my work laptop. So I'm pretty certain that logging in on my home computer caused the loss of my auto-login on my work laptop.
   118. Der-K's enjoying the new boygenius album. Posted: January 13, 2012 at 10:07 AM (#4036014)
Logging in through IE7 (work), Chrome (home), or Safari (phone) logs me out of my other session(s).
   119. Greg Pope Posted: January 13, 2012 at 11:06 AM (#4036097)
Keeping in mind that I know nothing about Expression Engine, Jim, you might want to check out this.

It talks about different browsers (IE vs. Firefox vs. Chrome) but based on the description I would guess that it's the same problem.
   120. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: January 13, 2012 at 12:15 PM (#4036181)
I've never had to log in again with Firefox since the site was first restored over a week ago. All that's missing now are the bookmarks.

   121. jimfurtado Posted: January 13, 2012 at 02:00 PM (#4036299)
Greg, you must use better search terms than I do. :)

It may be be our problem. I don't use sessions currently, however. I just use cookies. I will look into it at some point tomorrow and will add this fix into my necessary code hacks if it does prove to be the issue.
   122. HCO Posted: January 13, 2012 at 02:00 PM (#4036301)
EE can't possibly disallow persistent logins for a single user from multiple computers, can it? That can't possibly be the expected behavior.
   123. Harold can be a fun sponge Posted: January 13, 2012 at 02:12 PM (#4036321)
EE can't possibly disallow persistent logins for a single user from multiple computers, can it? That can't possibly be the expected behavior.


I'm guessing somebody broke something. Then somebody else said, "Umm, yeah, that's expected behavior." Wouldn't surprise me.
   124. Harold can be a fun sponge Posted: January 13, 2012 at 02:14 PM (#4036323)
This change was made to discourage spammers from adding links to to comments. It's a growing problem and it requires more of my time than I'd like.


Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense.

Have you tried using the nofollow attribute on links? I understand that while that makes the spam worthless, it still may not discourage stupid spammers, so it may not really work as a solution.
   125. jimfurtado Posted: January 13, 2012 at 02:14 PM (#4036324)
I am logged in on three different computers in three different browsers. I am also logged in on my phone's browser. Over the last week I've tried logging in at work remotely, on my phone, and at home simultaneously, closed the browsers, was still logged in when I reopened all my browsers on all my devices.

I don't doubt that some of you are experiencing the problem. What I haven't been able to do is replicate it so I can find the cause.
   126. Moses Taylor loves a good maim Posted: January 13, 2012 at 02:32 PM (#4036346)
I'm having the login problem, too, just in case you're trying to keep count (chrome at both locations, android phone).

---

Here's a weird one. On the NBA thread right now, the counter doesn't agree with the number of posts because of the 20 or deleted spam posts from the weekend. So right now, the counter shows 2204 posts, but there's really 2100 something. So if I click on 'last' in the hot topics bar, there is no 23rd page to take me to so it takes me to page 1 of the thread. Obviously this is a relatively minor thing, but thought I'd at least mention it.
   127. Moses Taylor loves a good maim Posted: January 13, 2012 at 02:34 PM (#4036350)
I wanted to edit that last post, since I'm off a couple of pages (it's really 2404 posts, and 2385 in the thread; so it's the 25th page, but whatever) and wanted to add that clicking 'last' inside the thread (like from page 1) takes me to the actual last page.

Anyway, when I click 'edit' in post 126, it actually takes me to the top of this page and I can't edit the post.
   128. Harold can be a fun sponge Posted: January 13, 2012 at 03:11 PM (#4036388)
Anyway, when I click 'edit' in post 126, it actually takes me to the top of this page and I can't edit the post.

I have the same problem on this page, but it's working fine on Newsblog thread pages. So it seems like a legit bug, but I'm guessing low priority if it's only affecting Lab Notes.
   129. jimfurtado Posted: January 13, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4036632)
Login problem: Maybe I just didn't notice it before but when I got home, I had to log back in. I am researching things a little more harder now.

Comment editing on this page: fixed.

I am looking into the closed comment count problem. I initially thought it was a problem with my Hot Topics code but, after looking at the code, it's not.

Harold, the nofollow wouldn't have any effect. I hid the member profiles to discourage spammers from creating spam accounts to get link juice from links in member pages, but I'm still getting multiple new spam accounts every day.
   130. HCO Posted: January 14, 2012 at 05:22 PM (#4037149)
Yeah the problem with things like nofollow and Jim's good idea of hiding member profiles is that spammers don't take the time to figure out whether a site is a good target or not. They just hit as many sites as they can.
   131. 185/456(GGC) Posted: January 14, 2012 at 06:03 PM (#4037166)
Is there gonna be a mobile version? My phone is semi-intelligent and I can access the site, but I can only get @ 10 comments a page.
   132. jimfurtado Posted: January 14, 2012 at 09:22 PM (#4037229)
Is there gonna be a mobile version? My phone is semi-intelligent and I can access the site, but I can only get @ 10 comments a page.
Yes, there will be. At this point, I haven't decided exactly how it will be implemented, but it will definitely be included.
   133. Lassus Posted: January 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM (#4037250)
I still have infinite personal edit capability, BTW.
   134. jimfurtado Posted: January 15, 2012 at 06:02 AM (#4037292)
Lassus, although you might see the edit link, if you try to edit your comment, you won't be able to save it. Fixing this EE code is on my to-do list.
   135. Scoriano Flitcraft Posted: January 15, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4037559)
So, I have to log-in every time I turn on a computer or my Blackberry (BB) or am inactive for 30 minutes or so on the site. This is happening on all my Macs and PCs, at home, at work and on the road, on IE, Safari, Camino, Mozilla/Firefox and my BB Browser. It has happened to me in NY, SF, San Diego and NJ in just the last week.

Close to 100% of my BB posts are being eaten. Often the post disappears and I am taken to a blank post reply screen where all the text is gone. Sometimes if I preview first, the post works. Sometimes it does not. Sometimes, if I respond to a post, it works, and other times, it goes to the blank post reply screen. It is quite frustrating and all new since the, uhm, upgrade.

Oh, I also flushed cookies, and cache, and all that jazz. No help.
   136. jimfurtado Posted: January 16, 2012 at 08:41 AM (#4037808)
Handle, your BB problems may be related to a device issue reported on the EE site. Please email me directly so we can try to troubleshoot the problems that you are having in real time.
   137. bobm Posted: January 16, 2012 at 11:03 AM (#4037883)
[135] I have the same problems being logged out on a PC and Blackberry 9930.
   138. Scoriano Flitcraft Posted: January 16, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4038368)
Jim, things improved sometime this afternoon. I will email if it occurs again. Thx!
   139. jimfurtado Posted: January 16, 2012 at 09:44 PM (#4038385)
Handle, I turned off secure forms. Apparently, it was causing you problems. We can continue to get by without it for now.
---
I've turned off Rank Denial for user submitted links for now. As HCO, said the spammers probably don't notice anyway. I will implement Vinay's suggested EE addon for applying nofollow to links, so members will be able to still see links when they hover over them. I will have to come up with another option for the forum links.

I've spent some time going over EE's logon code. They overhauled the logging in process. Some of the changes enhance security; some of them don't have a real purpose. I've made a change to one of the ways EE processes cookies. They were doing something funky that, frankly, makes no sense at all. I'm still poring over the code to see if they are anything else worth amending.

Can people clear their cookies and let me know whether the logging in situation has improved?
   140. Greg Pope Posted: January 17, 2012 at 12:23 PM (#4038636)
Things are working better, I think. I logged in at home last night, and when I came to the site at work this morning I did not need to log in. I will test on the iPad also.
   141. JJ1986 Posted: January 17, 2012 at 12:25 PM (#4038639)
Yeah, same for me today.
   142. Ray (CTL) Posted: January 17, 2012 at 01:05 PM (#4038664)
Hmm. I see my bookmarks list when I'm on this page (they're old, of course) but not when I'm on other pages.
   143. SoSH U at work Posted: January 17, 2012 at 01:36 PM (#4038696)
Hmm. I see my bookmarks list when I'm on this page (they're old, of course) but not when I'm on other pages.
I do as well. I wonder if bookmarks are returning in stages.
   144. jimfurtado Posted: January 17, 2012 at 08:29 PM (#4038994)
I'm testing some changes on this blog, primarily the way the underlying templates are put together. As you can see, I have the basic bookmark stuff done. I'd like to take one more crack at the bookmark Ajax code, though. Bookmarks should be back on the whole site in another day or two.
   145. bobm Posted: January 17, 2012 at 10:51 PM (#4039059)
My log-ins now seem to persist on both PC and BB. Thanks.
   146. Harold can be a fun sponge Posted: January 17, 2012 at 11:00 PM (#4039063)
I have not been able to log in on my iPhone at all in at least a few days. I see the log-in form, enter my info, see a page saying "Thank you! You are now logged in," but it doesn't take -- if I'm trying to access the lounge, I get bounced back to the login page; in the mainland, I go back to my mainland screen, but am still logged out. I've cleared all cookies, history, data, etc., numerous times.

Frigging iPhone. If this was happening on a real browser, I'd tell you what's happening with my cookies, etc. Anybody else still having problems like this? I'm using an iPhone 4S on the latest version of iOS.

Thanks for all the effort lately, especially the debugging. I know it's not fun. Also, thanks for changing the linking back -- I know a lot of people have posted that they're happy about this.
   147. Lowry Seasoning Salt Posted: January 17, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4039073)
Harold, if you haven't already, go to Settings > Safari and hit Clear Cookies And Data. Yes, this will impact any site for which your phone is already storing log in information. If you'd like to first try a less nuclear option, go to Settings > Safari > Advanced > Website Data and remove the listing for BTF (or just hit the Remove All Website Data button).
   148. Padgett Posted: January 17, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4039075)
Thanks for all the effort lately, especially the debugging. I know it's not fun. Also, thanks for changing the linking back -- I know a lot of people have posted that they're happy about this.
I'll second this. Thanks, Jim.
   149. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: January 18, 2012 at 12:41 AM (#4039108)
Hmm. I see my bookmarks list when I'm on this page (they're old, of course) but not when I'm on other pages.


I do as well. I wonder if bookmarks are returning in stages.

Same here. I'm also seeing them on this page only.
   150. jimfurtado Posted: January 18, 2012 at 10:00 AM (#4039234)
Andy, I answered this question in comment 144.
   151. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: January 18, 2012 at 10:18 AM (#4039255)
My bad, Jim. I got in late last night and glazed by your answer to SoSH.
   152. Mark S is still on target Posted: January 18, 2012 at 10:24 AM (#4039260)
I have not been able to log in on my iPhone at all in at least a few days. I see the log-in form, enter my info, see a page saying "Thank you! You are now logged in," but it doesn't take -- if I'm trying to access the lounge, I get bounced back to the login page; in the mainland, I go back to my mainland screen, but am still logged out. I've cleared all cookies, history, data, etc., numerous times.

Frigging iPhone. If this was happening on a real browser, I'd tell you what's happening with my cookies, etc. Anybody else still having problems like this? I'm using an iPhone 4S on the latest version of iOS.

Thanks for all the effort lately, especially the debugging. I know it's not fun. Also, thanks for changing the linking back -- I know a lot of people have posted that they're happy about this.


I had this problem and I finally figured out that in the Settings->Safari the AcceptCookies flag keeps getting set back to "Never Accept Cookies". I had to toggle it again this morning to get it to work for me.
   153. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: January 18, 2012 at 04:25 PM (#4039661)
I have the 4S as well, so I appreciate the help from you guys, Harold and Mark. I haven't Lounged from it much, especially since this happened, so if it ever starts working "right", please let us know here. Thanks.
   154. Mark S is still on target Posted: January 18, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4039699)
I have the 4S as well, so I appreciate the help from you guys, Harold and Mark. I haven't Lounged from it much, especially since this happened, so if it ever starts working "right", please let us know here. Thanks.


As far as I can tell, it's working fine for me on my iPhone 4S now.
   155. Guapo Posted: January 19, 2012 at 12:33 PM (#4040260)
Hi Jim,

The formatting buttons are missing from the "submit a news story" page.
   156. An Athletic in Powderhorn, Silly Posted: January 21, 2012 at 12:21 PM (#4041865)
Jim, several of us in the Lounge have noticed that the Search function has been having problems. If a keyword is found in many replies in a thread, upon clicking the "Search this thread" link it gives an error saying that the search did not return any results. And a couple of days ago I searched for a phrase that was present in that day's lounge and that I knew had been used in several previous lounges. That search also didn't return any results. I assume that this is another SNAFU with the latest EE update, since I haven't had either of those problems before. If you could look into this I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
   157. jimfurtado Posted: January 21, 2012 at 12:46 PM (#4041881)
I will look into the search problem in the Lounge. If you could send along a couple of searches (send it through the site email) to illustrate the problem, I would appreciate it.
   158. An Athletic in Powderhorn, Silly Posted: January 21, 2012 at 01:49 PM (#4041923)
Email sent.
   159. bobm Posted: January 21, 2012 at 02:30 PM (#4041940)
The comment count in the OT NBA thread (2630 now) seems to disagree with the actual number of comments (2610 now).
   160. jimfurtado Posted: January 21, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4041971)
I've confirmed the search problem and the formatting buttons problem. I am troubleshooting both issues.

I have fixed the NBA thread comment count.
   161. Mr Dashwood Posted: January 22, 2012 at 09:11 PM (#4042736)
We seem to have lost access to Newsblog entries earlier than July 2011, which is a bit awkward for some work I'm doing right now.
   162. jimfurtado Posted: January 23, 2012 at 10:10 AM (#4043043)
fra paolo, sorry. I'm in the middle of restructuring the site's archive structure. If you have the links, you should be able to display them now. Eventually, though, Newsblog entries older than six months will only be accessible in the new site archives. This is being done both for organization and for performance.
   163. Guapo Posted: January 23, 2012 at 04:12 PM (#4043534)
The old links are appearing, but all the comments have disappeared.
   164. jimfurtado Posted: January 24, 2012 at 03:50 PM (#4044582)
Can you give me a link?
   165. SoSH U at work Posted: January 24, 2012 at 03:53 PM (#4044594)
Can you give me a link?


Here's an example.

It lists 89 comments, but none appear.
   166. jimfurtado Posted: January 24, 2012 at 08:15 PM (#4045012)
Fixed. Thanks for the heads up. Eventually though, Newsblog posts older than six months will only display within the much improved archive section.
   167. Monty Posted: January 30, 2012 at 12:49 PM (#4049390)
Never mind!
   168. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: February 04, 2012 at 10:40 AM (#4053388)
Does anyone know how to delete bookmarked threads now?
   169. jimfurtado Posted: February 05, 2012 at 06:43 AM (#4053766)
Does anyone know how to delete bookmarked threads now?

Thanks for pointing this out.

Visit the thread and click "Bookmarked".

I may change the description to something else. Would "Unbookmark" be better?
   170. Joe Kehoskie Posted: February 06, 2012 at 06:41 PM (#4055024)
Jim — Thanks for the site updates and improvements. Glad to have bookmarks back, etc.

I just noticed the problem mentioned in #100 seems to be back, at least for the Starlin Castro thread. As I'm writing this, the links in the sidebar (Hot Topics and Bookmarks) have the thread at 5195 comments, but the thread actually has 5202 comments. It's not a big deal, but the link takes people to the wrong page when the discrepancy occurs around a page-flip (i.e., last comments are in the high '90s or low '00s). Thanks.
   171. Greg Pope Posted: February 08, 2012 at 04:52 PM (#4056738)
Jim, was the "ignore thread" possibility a no-go? I do appreciate the longer Hot Topics list, but the soccer and NBA threads still end up at the top quite often and I have to scroll down more.
   172. jimfurtado Posted: February 09, 2012 at 07:18 AM (#4057001)
Greg, some of the the changes will be implemented after the move to the new servers and within the new design. I am completely re-factoring the data structure and back-end template code. By doing so, I'll be able to provide many more customization options for members to satisfy the individual needs of as many people as possible.

For example, some people are asking for more off-topic content, like football and basketball. Other people, like you, are asking for the ability to ignore such content. With the re-design, members will be able to choose whether to include those sports or not in the site-wide Hot Topics box by setting the option in their Profile Settings. Additionally, each member will have his own "My BBTF Homepage" (name may change) where he can subscribe to specific content topics by blog (BBTF, Hall of Merit), subject (Red Sox, Steroids), or category (Baseball, Football).

Look for a new Updates post in the next day or so. In it I will discuss some of the upcoming features and ask for a few more Alpha/Beta Testers.
   173. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: February 10, 2012 at 12:06 AM (#4057753)
Anyone else having problems tonight? New last posts (and higher nunmbers) are appearing temporarily on the sidebar, but they don't exist when you click on the thread.

   174. Greg Pope Posted: February 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM (#4059537)
I'm not having that problem, but for a couple of days there's something funny going on with caching. I go to the home page and it's cached from last time. I have to refresh to see the updated Hot Topics. So I refresh the home page and, for example, the Jeter thread says 47 comments. So I click on the link from Hot Topics and I go to the page and it only has 38 comments, the same as earlier today. I refresh the page and see all 47.

So I'm guessing my IE is caching the pages, but the site never behaved like this before.
   175. Mefisto Posted: February 12, 2012 at 11:38 PM (#4059566)
I'm having the same problem Greg. It's been going on for a couple of days now. I'm also using IE.
   176. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: February 13, 2012 at 12:06 AM (#4059573)
So I'm guessing my IE is caching the pages, but the site never behaved like this before.


That's basically what is happening to me. It just took me a while to figure out that refreshing would update the pages to the actual count.

   177. Greg Pope Posted: February 14, 2012 at 09:49 AM (#4060487)
In some preliminary testing it does not seem to happen in Firefox.
   178. DL from MN Posted: February 14, 2012 at 09:55 AM (#4060490)
This was happening to me with IE so I switched to Chrome. Works fine in Chrome and Firefox.
   179. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: February 14, 2012 at 11:26 AM (#4060606)
Additionally, each member will have his own "My BBTF Homepage" (name may change) where he can subscribe to specific content topics by blog (BBTF, Hall of Merit), subject (Red Sox, Steroids), or category (Baseball, Football).


This sounds fantastic.
   180. Javy Joan Baez (chris h.) Posted: February 14, 2012 at 11:51 AM (#4060653)
This sounds fantastic.

Agreed. I am beyond stoked for this. The inconveniences have been rather minor anyway, but even so they're well worth it given what's on the horizon.
   181. jimfurtado Posted: February 15, 2012 at 12:50 PM (#4061561)
Thanks for the additional information on the caching issue. I have added it to my bug fix list.

Can the people having the IE caching issue please let me know which version of IE they are using?

@Chris and Jose: I more excited about the upcoming changes to the site than at any other time in the site's existence, and I include when Sean and I first released BaseballPrimer.com. My primary focuses on the updates are serving pages as fast as I can, enhancing the community nature of the site, giving users more control over what content they see, helping them find the news they are interested in, and making the site as easy to use as possible.
   182. Greg Pope Posted: February 16, 2012 at 09:08 AM (#4062255)
Can the people having the IE caching issue please let me know which version of IE they are using?

From Help/About:

IE9, version 9.0.8112.16421
Update Versions (whatever that means): 9.0.5
   183. base ball chick Posted: February 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM (#4062355)
Jim Furtado Posted: February 15, 2012 at 12:50 PM (#4061561)

Thanks for the additional information on the caching issue. I have added it to my bug fix list.

Can the people having the IE caching issue please let me know which version of IE they are using?


- IE 8

My page is still stuck on Feb 14 at about 9 AM CST, which is weird because i wasn't on the computer then. No new posts are showing at all. I tried closing, clearing and restarting and have the same problem
   184. jimfurtado Posted: February 16, 2012 at 11:47 AM (#4062429)
bbc and Greg, let me know if the problem has been resolved.
   185. Greg Pope Posted: February 16, 2012 at 08:38 PM (#4063003)
Not for me. Gary Carter thread was on 42 earlier today. Checked now, still on 42. Refreshed and saw 55. I used Ctrl-F5 the whole day in case that was the problem.
   186. base ball chick Posted: February 16, 2012 at 10:58 PM (#4063077)
jim,

it is now working fine on my computer
   187. Greg Pope Posted: February 17, 2012 at 09:32 AM (#4063232)
Still not on mine.
   188. Greg Pope Posted: February 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM (#4065461)
Not sure if you're still checking this one, Jim, but my caching problem has gone away. Thanks.
   189. jimfurtado Posted: February 21, 2012 at 12:54 PM (#4065531)
Greg, it appeared to be a problem with come caching stuff contained within HTML5 Boilerplate, which is something I've been testing. I've removed all of it for now.
   190. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: November 30, 2012 at 09:15 AM (#4313192)
I'm getting logged out over and over again. I couldn't remember where I should post about this sort of thing, so I chose here.
   191. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: November 30, 2012 at 09:49 AM (#4313221)
I'm getting logged out over and over again. I couldn't remember where I should post about this sort of thing, so I chose here.

I still can't login on Firefox, which is a pain in the butt because that's what I use for everything else. I've raised this issue several times but still haven't gotten a satisfactory answer, since it's ONLY BTF where I have this problem.

And yes, I've tried enabling cookies, deleting cookies, and enabling cookies so many time I feel like a Pepperidge Farm bakery. Still hasn't solved the problem.
   192. O Tempura, O Morays ('Spos) Posted: November 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM (#4313413)
Having no problem with Firefox, which version?
   193. Smitty* Posted: August 25, 2022 at 04:10 PM (#6093258)
Primey for 193
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