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Bullpen Mechanics — A Scout's View Friday, July 06, 2007“Prospect” Report: The BBTF pitching evaluationSubject: 29 year-old pitcher. Likes to drop down, but is working on re-learning to throw over the top in order to better understand and apply his pitching philosophies. Consider this clip…. 1) Strengths? Next clip…. Same questions… Next clip… 1)Better/Worse than the previous clip? And finally, since my changeup kinda sucks, I was thinking that could use this as a changeup… Let me have it. Do unto me as I do to other pitchers. Any thoughts/advice would be appreciated. |
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1. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: July 06, 2007 at 05:52 AM (#2430719)And for kicks, can you add the goofy Mark Eichhorn side hop?
I actually do think the mechanics look very familiar, and when somebody gets it I'll think it was obvious, but I just can't pull up the name right now.
I don't know if Jack and I are thinking the same thing but it looked to me like you were coming late with the elbow & "opening up."
I'm not sure I can answer any of your questions, but that's what I see.
Different angle of approach. I have a problem opening up too soon. If I start on the 3rd base side, I have a tendency of opening up even sooner.
I don't know if Jack and I are thinking the same thing but it looked to me like you were coming late with the elbow & "opening up."
Yup. My biggest problem is "opening up." I think it's part my body's doing, but I can't seem to be able to keep my front shoulder in a getting my forearm to "lay back" like most hard throwers. I can "lay back" the arm when I throw normally, but when I pitch I tend to drag my elbow along from both up top and sidearm.
BTW, overhand pitch was at 88mph (clip 1). Clip 2 was 83mph. I'd guess that pitch 3 was 81-82mph.
I'll guess Roy Oswalt
Trying to mimick Lincecum (although I didn't even get close, except for maybe the stepover) from up top. I was thinking "lead with my butt" and drift through the balance point while keeping my shoulder over the rubber. This is something that I think Palazzolo will benefit from. I was testing it out to see if it worked on me and it did, even though I can obviously do it better. I will say this. By drifting through the balance point, my tempo (from top of knee lift to release) got faster than I've ever had it, an Oswalt-esque 20 frames (Oswalt and Unit are 18 framers).
In clip #2, it looks like there's a good wind-up with the right arm, but then forward progress with the ball seems to stop briefly as the elbow sort of rotates around the ball.
That's a bingo. On that clip, I was trying to work on keeping the arm back while the body rotates (separation and sequencing) and also working on eliminating that friggin hitch by "layin' it back." Again, I think the fact that I don't get my forearm parallel to the ground has to do with my early front shoulder rotation which has to do with my hips opening up too soon....Tried everything, still can't get it unless I do it at around 80% effort.
The pace of the delivery in 2 is also much faster to the plate. Much less time spent over the rubber.
It looks this way, but clip #1 is a better use of the body by a wide margin. Clip #2 and my sidearm throws I tend to lead with my front shoulder which makes it dificcult for me to firm up my front leg and stop forward mometum to make it rotational. Another inefficiency that costs me a whole bunch of velocity.
More later....and excellent points fellas...
2. Your front foot- You land closed. Though only a few inches closed, it threw off the rotationaly plane of your hips and shoulders. Notice your head got outside your front knee/foot. Some players high arm slots do this to get out of the way of their arms, but your slot isn't that high. Your front leg also kind of bows out. It isn't as firm or anchored as it could be which is costing you mph's. This is all caused by landing a couple inches closed. If your front foot landed perpendicular to your back foot it would clean your delivery up a lot and make your release point more consistent.
3. Your arm- Your arm action isn't bad by any stretch. I think its a matter of timing it better. Your arm is almost coming forward before your front foot lands which is contributing to your opening up. Looking at almost any power pitcher, they don't start "throwing the ball" until their front foot lands. This allows them to stay closed that split second longer than an amatuer and it also forces their arm to be quicker.
All in all your delivery isn't bad, esp. for converting from dropping down to overhand. Your finish is great! I think if you cleaned it up a bit you would definitely get it up over 90. Love the blogs man keep 'em coming!
I have no expertise whatsoever, but in #1, the pitcher that came to my mind was Kerry Wood.
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