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Thursday, January 16, 2020


Sign stealing in baseball is nothing new. The punishment now being meted out is absurd.

No one had the foresight to expect problems before the video systems were installed in the locker rooms? If the violations are so serious that you need to hand out year-long suspensions, you’d better be investigating every team with a hint of suspicion. Otherwise people will think the severity of the punishments are more about face-saving for the Commissioner than justice.

This is an extreme overreaction. Baseball, more than any of the other major professional sports, has cheating baked into the core of its existence. Cheating is as integral to baseball as sunflower seeds and older men in children’s uniforms screaming at umpires. Baseball losing its mind to this degree is just asinine. Sign stealing, like basically all the cheating in the game, is only marginally helpful, at-bat for at-bat. It seems the league has overlearned the lessons of the steroid era and is desperate to seem like it takes policing cheating seriously lest those dark days are revived.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 16, 2020 at 03:04 PM | 109 comment(s)
  Beats: sign stealing

Carlos Beltran: Mets manager out after Astros’ cheating scandal

Another casualty. At this point, if MLB is really serious about really getting to the bottom of this problem and fairness, they need to investigate *EVERY* team. Let’s get another 20 managers and GM suspended.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 16, 2020 at 01:19 PM | 120 comment(s)
  Beats: astros, carlos beltran, mets, sign stealing

To stop sign stealing, MLB could fight tech with more tech

PHOENIX (AP) — If Major League Baseball really wants to stop its teams from electronically stealing signs, it might consider fighting technology with more technology.

In a sport that’s increasingly driven by analytics and advancements, the majority of signs between players and coaches are still transmitted by low-tech hand signals that have been used for decades. Those hand signals are easily captured by the loads of video equipment around MLB stadiums that are used for television, replays and all kinds of stat tracking.

All that technology can be — and obviously has been — used for cheating. The Houston Astros were hit with stiff punishment on Monday after an MLB investigation found the team used electronics to steal signs during the franchise’s run to the 2017 World Series title and again in the 2018 season. Manager AJ Hinch and general manager Jeff Luhnow were suspended for a season and then fired by Astros owner Jim Crane.

Boston manager Alex Cora was fired on Tuesday for his involvement with the Astros’ scheme and a separate ongoing investigation that involves the Red Sox.

Is it just me, or does this assumption of a technological solution have the seeds of further chaos down the road in it?

 

QLE Posted: January 16, 2020 at 12:39 AM | 25 comment(s)
  Beats: sign stealing, techno ethics, technology

Tuesday, January 07, 2020

MLB’s sign-stealing controversy broadens: Sources say the Red Sox used video replay room illegally in 2018 – The Athletic

Before the 2018 season, after years of barely enforcing its broad rules regarding replay rooms, the league made it crystal clear: Replay rooms cannot be used to help steal signs. The newly clarified rules, in combination with the fines the league levied on the Red Sox and Yankees and warnings it issued in ’17, were intended to end the replay-room chicanery.

For the Red Sox, and possibly other clubs, it did not.[emphasis added]

Jim Furtado Posted: January 07, 2020 at 10:38 AM | 106 comment(s)
  Beats: red sox, sign stealing

Sunday, December 01, 2019

‘Losing a war that you weren’t informed of’: Some MLB pitchers are livid over electronic sign stealing – The Athletic

Since The Athletic broke the news that the Houston Astros stole signs electronically in 2017, the fallout has mostly been framed as an Astros vs. the-rest-of-MLB scandal. But this line of thought is misguided, or at least incomplete for a couple of reasons.

First, we don’t necessarily know everything that the Astros were doing, or whether they were the only team to do it. Beyond that, regardless of who was doing what and how widespread it was, both commissioner Rob Manfred and the players union will have to soothe a critical undercurrent if they hope to move the game forward.

The issue? Pitchers want blood.

Jim Furtado Posted: December 01, 2019 at 08:51 AM | 73 comment(s)
  Beats: pay site, sign stealing

Monday, November 18, 2019

PASSAN: Astros exec suggested using cameras to spy in ‘17, sources say

A familiar name in these circles emerges…

A high-ranking Houston Astros official asked scouts to spy on opponents’ dugouts leading up to the 2017 postseason, hoping to steal signs and suggesting the potential use of cameras to do so, sources familiar with the request told ESPN.

The reaction among those who received an email from Kevin Goldstein, a special assistant to Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow, was mixed, sources told ESPN. Some were intrigued by the idea, sources who received the email said, while others were bothered by the thought of pointing cameras from the stands toward opposing teams’ dugouts, a plan that could have earned them scorn within the scouting community if caught. ...

Goldstein, who did not return a message seeking comment, wrote in the email: “One thing in specific we are looking for is picking up signs coming out of the dugout. What we are looking for is how much we can see, how we would log things, if we need cameras/binoculars, etc. So go to game, see what you can [or can’t] do and report back your findings.”

Stormy JE Posted: November 18, 2019 at 11:04 AM | 184 comment(s)
  Beats: astros, baseball prospectus, cheating, kevin goldstein, sign stealing

Saturday, November 16, 2019

What Mets told Carlos Beltran regarding sign-stealing scandal

On Thursday in Scottsdale, Ariz., at the GM meetings, Van Wagenen told reporters: “Anything that happened, happened with another organization, with Houston. … I have no idea if anything did or did not [occur], but at this point, I don’t see any reason why this is a Mets situation.”

Jim Furtado Posted: November 16, 2019 at 11:59 AM | 16 comment(s)
  Beats: carlos beltran, mets, sign stealing

Brewers’ Christian Yelich tweets harshly at Yu Darvish over accusation

Although a lot of people are talking about banning technology to deal with this problem, technology might provide the solution. Why not have wearable Bluetooth devices where the catcher and pitcher communicate? A lot of catchers already wear wristbands with notes. Why not replace them with a couple of buttons for pitch type and location?

Jim Furtado Posted: November 16, 2019 at 08:11 AM | 22 comment(s)
  Beats: brewers, sign stealing

 

 

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