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Friday, September 24, 2021

14 wins in a row! Cards tie 1935 club record

The game in which the 1935 Cardinals set the franchise record with their 14th consecutive victory came with Pepper Martin batting leadoff against the Boston Braves, crossing the plate twice in support of starting pitcher Paul Dean, who threw a complete game. That Gashouse Gang played just two road games amid their July streak—both at Wrigley Field—and averaged just under 6.5 runs per game.

The game in which the 2021 Cardinals tied that record came with Jack Flaherty pitching as an opener ahead of Dakota Hudson—both making long-awaited returns to action—buoyed by five home runs blasted out into the Wrigley Field bleachers. These Cardinals are averaging 6.93 runs per game in their streak and have yet to see it end.

There are some stark similarities and differences between the two streaks separated by 86 years—the only two of that length in franchise history after the 2021 team clinched a 12-4 win over the Cubs on Friday—but no factor is more important than this: These Cardinals have played historically winning baseball at the exact right time, vaulting from fringe postseason contenders to near-mathematical locks to play in October.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 24, 2021 at 11:28 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Duke Posted: September 25, 2021 at 09:07 AM (#6041596)
What are the longest modern day winning streaks for any team ?
   2. Space Force fan Posted: September 25, 2021 at 10:16 AM (#6041601)
22 in a row by Cleveland in 2017 is the longest recent one.

Longest streak by each team: https://www.mlb.com/news/baseball-s-longest-win-streaks-c268160952
   3. The Duke Posted: September 25, 2021 at 11:30 AM (#6041604)
I can’t imagine ripping off a 22 game win streak in today’s MLB. The cardinals would need a nine game winning streak to break the record !!!!
   4. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: September 25, 2021 at 02:28 PM (#6041621)
Re 3: Without looking, I'll guess the Rays have the shortest longest winning streak.

EDIT: Nope. Close, tho.
   5. mathesond Posted: September 25, 2021 at 05:50 PM (#6041643)
Pfft. I'm up to 16 in a row in ESPN's "Streak for the Cash". But I will admit that #17 is not looking like the lock I thought it would be. (I will also admit that the Cards are responsible for at least a couple of my wins).
   6. Cblau Posted: September 25, 2021 at 07:55 PM (#6041674)
The Cardinals had a 17-game winning streak in 1885.
   7. Rough Carrigan Posted: September 25, 2021 at 08:43 PM (#6041686)
The Cubs had a 21 game winning streak in September that same year, 1935, to take the pennant.
   8. Howie Menckel Posted: September 26, 2021 at 02:26 PM (#6041750)
in fact, the Cubs' 21-game streak in 1935 eliminated the Cardinals with 2 games to play.

at that point, the Cubs called off the dogs and the Cards won 2 garbage-time contests.

#crossthread
   9. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 26, 2021 at 02:32 PM (#6041751)
ESPN's "Streak for the Cash".
”It appears as though I misinterpreted the name of the contest, Officer.”
   10. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 27, 2021 at 11:10 AM (#6041892)
After 140 games this year, the Mets were 70-70. The Cardinals were 71-69.

Things have not gone the same way for both teams since that time.
   11. Ron J Posted: September 27, 2021 at 11:31 AM (#6041898)
I was going to point out how well Tyler O'Neill played during the hot stretch. And he has played very well. Just not nearly as well as Paul Goldschmidt has. He hit .265/.335/.432 in the first half but really picked it up after game 90 and in the streak basically hit .400 with power.
   12. salvomania Posted: September 27, 2021 at 12:27 PM (#6041910)
Goldschmidt's OPS by month:
Apr: .597
May: .772
Jun: .839
Jul: .959
Aug: 1.004
Sep: 1.149

Can't wait to see his October OPS
   13. The Duke Posted: September 27, 2021 at 01:13 PM (#6041920)
Goldschmidt is playing better partially because O’Neill is playing better. If we could get Arenado to stop popping up the ball three times a game and hit more line drives, we’d really have a great middle of the order

Did Arenado pop up this much in Colorado?

Rolen was a pop up king after his shoulder injury and Arenado seems to have followed the same trajectory. Must be something about shoulder injuries that causes this. Rolen didn’t come out of that issue for as long as he was with Cardinals. Didn’t follow him close enough after that to see if it self-corrected
   14. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: September 27, 2021 at 01:31 PM (#6041927)
That Cleveland streak in 2017 was amazing, and of course burned the team out by playoff time. The previous AL record was 20 by Billy Beane's A's.

O'Neill has been a fun player to follow this year. He strikes out a lot, but his BA isn't disastrous. His power is legit, and he's got cool style.
   15. salvomania Posted: September 27, 2021 at 01:53 PM (#6041936)
O'Neill has been a fun player to follow this year.

That stance of his seems very intimidating---he has this rhythmic not exactly rocking thing, it's like his extremities stay in the same place relative to one another while his whole body is rhythmically flexing as the ball is delivered, just waiting to unleash that explosive compact swing onto the ball.

He's fun to watch hit since he learned to lay off the outside slop. Still a lot of swing-and-miss in his game, but it seems like he's swinging mostly at strikes. I'm surprised pitchers don't go outside more---it's almost like the reason I don't see him offer much at the outside stuff these days is because they're not throwing him out there anymore (walk rate is lower than last year, only at 7.4%). That said, when he does swing at pitches on the outer half and make contact, more often than not he's trying to take the pitch to the opposite field, which again suggests that he's gotten a lot better at pitch recognition or has changed his approach a bit from just swinging as hard as he can in the general direction of every pitch.

EDIT: Just looked at his rates at Fangraphs, and the only thing the data shows is a career high % of swings inside the strike zone, but most of his other rates are in line with his career norms.

Also a career high of % of pitches seen inside the strike zone. FG has two different tables for plate discipline, with different numbers for similar-sounding stats, so I'm not sure if I'm looking at the right numbers, or if the data is just coming from two different sources but they're measuring more or less the same things..
   16. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: September 27, 2021 at 02:52 PM (#6041955)
Did Arenado pop up this much in Colorado?


In Colorado they call pop ups "home runs".
   17. Ron J Posted: September 27, 2021 at 06:24 PM (#6042024)
#13 70 extra base hits and you're worried about him? You might want more, but this looks like selective memory in action. Prime Arenado (2015-2019 is 129 OPS+). He's put up a 122. This is basically a perfectly normal year for him. Yeah, OPS+ overrates him a bit because the OBP isn't that good, but still if there have been offensive issues this year it's not Arenado you should be looking at.

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