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2021 LCS OMNICHATTER!

Red Sox vs. Houston. Atlanta vs. Los Angeles.

Four teams, one OMNICHATTER.

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1. villageidiom Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:57 AM (#6046631)

Since it's probably going to be a hot topic going into these series...

ALCS:
Brian Gorman, Marvin Hudson, Ron Kulpa, Tim Timmons, Mark Wegner, Joe West (crew chief), with Dan Iassogna on site as the replay umpire for the first 2 games. Timmons and Iassogna will switch places after game 2.

NLCS:
Mark Carlson, Phil Cuzzi, Gerry Davis (crew chief), Greg Gibson, Bill Miller, Bill Welke, with Paul Emmel on site as the replay umpire for the first 2 games. Cuzzi and Emmel will switch places after game 2.

The replay umpire being local rather than in NYC is the surprise to me. Otherwise, it looks like the ALCS is more likely to have really bad ball/strike calls than the NLCS.

2. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:14 AM (#6046633)

From Umpire Scorecards accuracy and consistency ranking for each ump;

Gorman - 92.5 - 95.9
Hudson - 93.2 - 95.8
Kulpa - 91.8 - 95.3 (second to last in accuracy)
Timmons - 93.0 - 95.6
Wegner - 94.3 - 95.4
West - 92.2 - 95.7
Iassogna - 93.2 - 95.4

Carlson - 93.2 - 95.4
Cuzzi - 93.5 - 95.6
Davis - 92.6 - 94.6
Gibson - 92.1 - 95.5
Miller - 93.5 - 96.3
Welke - 92.9 - 94.1
Emmel - No Data Listed

3. pikepredator Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:32 AM (#6046634)

ooooooh heady umpire content. That's just what I was excited about what I opened this thread!!

I keed, I keed.

SALE DAY!! Am I alone in thinking today will confirm either "yeah, he's outta gas for 2021" or "the Sox could win the WS"? Or are most people already in the former camp? I remain hopeful!!

4. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:36 AM (#6046635)

Sale has the stuff and the control to adapt to being a different type of pitcher (much like CC did) but doing it on the fly against very good teams is a hell of an ask. If Eovaldi and Rodriguez are right Sale is not as critical but obviously having him pitch reasonably well would be a big help.

Do you feel more informed now? You know what, don't answer that.

5. stanmvp48 Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:47 AM (#6046638)

Too soon for Buehler to start the first game ?
Status of Max Muncy?

6. Nasty Nate Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:52 AM (#6046639)

ALCS Game 1 - today 8:07
ALCS Game 2 - tomorrow (10/16) 4:20 ...bro
NLCS Game 1 - tomorrow (10/16) 8:07
NLCS Game 2 - sunday (10/17) 7:37
ALCS Game 3 - monday (10/18) 8:07

7. Nasty Nate Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:56 AM (#6046642)

SALE DAY!! Am I alone in thinking today will confirm either "yeah, he's outta gas for 2021" or "the Sox could win the WS"? Or are most people already in the former camp? I remain hopeful!!

Count me as neither. He pooped out in Game 1 of the 2018 ALCS versus the Astros.

8. Tom Goes to the Ballpark Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:05 AM (#6046645)

Too soon for Buehler to start the first game ?
Status of Max Muncy?

It will probably be Gonsolin or Scherzer in game 1. I don’t think the Dodgers would have Buehler pitch on short rest back to back unless the situation was dire. Muncy is probably out, but the final decision will be made today.

9. pikepredator Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:55 AM (#6046654)

If Eovaldi and Rodriguez are right Sale is not as critical

True enough! If two of the three are nails Sox the should fare quite well.

10. Textbook Editor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 12:24 PM (#6046658)

I'm very curious who the Red Sox will name as the Game 4 starter, though I suspect they may well not announce it until the day of the game and it is likely to be contingent upon the series status at the time. Sale won't be going on short rest; the question is whether or not they could throw Pivetta or Houck (or both) in a Game 4 without having to use them in Games 1-3.

11. TimeWarner Sucks Posted: October 15, 2021 at 12:34 PM (#6046660)

If Buehler starts game 1, it won't be on short rest. He pitched Tuesday, so Saturday is his regular day.

12. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 15, 2021 at 12:54 PM (#6046665)

Other than Atlanta, I'm not sure I could think of a less intriguing to me slate of teams. I'll probably check in on some of them, but my interest the rest of the way is near-zero. Congrats to the fans of the teams who are still there, but I'm just not compelled by more Red Sox, Astros, and Dodgers late October baseball at this point.

13. Moses Taylor loves a good maim Posted: October 15, 2021 at 12:55 PM (#6046666)

McCullers off the roster since he's hurt. That's a big blow for Houston.

14. Nasty Nate Posted: October 15, 2021 at 12:57 PM (#6046667)

Is Greinke just not trusted by the Astros currently?

15. and Posted: October 15, 2021 at 12:57 PM (#6046668)

Copied from LDS thread. Dodger/Giant check swing history.

16. pikepredator Posted: October 15, 2021 at 01:18 PM (#6046678)

I'm trying to be feel for McCullers and Houston fans but the truth is I'm totally fist-pumping. If that is ghoulish, so be it. I'm not happy he's hurt . . . but I'm pretty excited he won't be pitching.

17. and Posted: October 15, 2021 at 02:05 PM (#6046683)

Wouldn't be a Red Sox title run without an asterisk or four. :)

18. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: October 15, 2021 at 02:41 PM (#6046688)

Wouldn't be a Red Sox title run without an asterisk or four. :)

?? What asterisks are applied to the Sox titles?

19. jmurph Posted: October 15, 2021 at 02:59 PM (#6046690)

?? What asterisks are applied to the Sox titles?

Bunyon's on a real "the teams I am regionally obligated to cheer for are morally superior to the teams you're regionally obligated to cheer for" kick this week, I'm sure it will pass.

20. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: October 15, 2021 at 03:01 PM (#6046691)

?? What asterisks are applied to the Sox titles?

They inflated the baseballs!

21. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 03:07 PM (#6046693)

Red Sox, Astros, and Dodgers

Between these three teams, they have occupied, what, 6 of the available 8 entries into the last 4 WS? (Dodgers 3, Astros 2, Red Sox 1.) The only available storylines between those three, at least that I can see, are:

1. Can the Dodgers take revenge for the Astrosterisk? (Some people might care, but I don't.)
2. The less-compelling, can the Dodgers take revenge for the sweep a few years back? (Especially less compelling because this Sox team is not nearly as good as that one was.)
3. And the even-less-compelling, can the Dodgers win their first "real" WS since 1988? (Given that they're the best team pretty much every year, I don't think many people actually see last year as not real.)

I enjoy watching the Dodgers because they have a lot of fascinating players, but it's true that these are not exactly the most scintillating of narratives.

The Barves would be seen as plucky underdogs against all the other teams, though if you look at the rosters they're significantly better than the Red Sox.

Also -- WTF happened to Marcell Ozuna?

22. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 15, 2021 at 03:17 PM (#6046695)

Ozuna was suspended when he was charged in a domestic violence case. In a nutshell, charges were dropped when he went into an alternative program. Braves fans are split between "get rid of this guy", and "his wife hit him in 2020, so let's get his bat back in the lineup ASAP"

23. pikepredator Posted: October 15, 2021 at 03:24 PM (#6046696)

My colleague and I were just talking that it would be hard to find a team to root for if we weren't Sox fans. Braves are underdogs but also . . . not that great. I disagree that they are "significantly better than the Red Sox", but I am biased. Red Sox played in a meat grinder division whereas the Braves had the luxury of beating up on some bad teams.

24. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 03:37 PM (#6046698)

Mostly, when I look at the Red Sox, I see something similar to the Giants, though at a lesser scale: it's not as though their players didn't play well; it's more like . . . how did these players play that well?

25. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 15, 2021 at 03:47 PM (#6046699)

Reposted from the LDS thread. "Accountability," ump style:

After the game, crew chief Ted Barrett was asked if Morales still thinks he made the right call. He wasn’t able to give the straightest answer.

“Yeah, no, we, yeah, yeah, he doesn’t want to say,” Barrett said.

26. and Posted: October 15, 2021 at 04:35 PM (#6046705)

I’m just poking an obviously exposed nerve. Don’t mind me.

I’m not on any kind of kick except that I ####### hate the wild card. And anyone who thinks the Braves are better than the Red Sox is smoking something. The Red Sox are very good. The Braves are good. If it comes to those two, the Sox should be favored.

27. Walt Davis Posted: October 15, 2021 at 04:37 PM (#6046706)

As I've opined, I think the Dodgers might be the best team of my lifetime so I'm sufficiently fascinated to watch them. But with Muncy hurt and the offense generally not clicking, they aren't giving off that vibe at the moment. On paper, obviously the Astros and Dodgers should cruise into the WS. Especially without Acuna, the Braves are the least inspiring team here so they'll probably win it.

28. Rough Carrigan

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 04:38 PM (#6046708)

Greinke might pitch well against the Sox. But I was at a home opener against AZ a few years ago and they slapped him around. Some junkballers give them troubles others they don't get themselves out for. Greinke seemed to be in the latter category.

29. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 04:43 PM (#6046709)

The Red Sox are very good.

lol

30. and Posted: October 15, 2021 at 04:50 PM (#6046710)

What’s funny about that, Voxter?

31. Jay Seaver Posted: October 15, 2021 at 04:50 PM (#6046711)

The only available storylines between those three, at least that I can see, are:

4. All the "we're just happy to be here" joy that Red Sox nation has been expressing for the past two weeks being a cruel ironic setup to being absolutely destroyed when Mookie Betts goes 17-22 with four home runs while throwing Alex Verdugo out at third twice at crucial moments, celebrating at home plate in Fenway after a walk-off homer. I am not rooting for this, and I actually believe Betts when he says that he expected to re-sign with Boston and bears the city/team no ill will, but if the baseball gods are the type that like to punish hubris, they have John Henry squarely in their sights right now.

(Sorry for imagining this, fellow Therapudians)

32. Walt Davis Posted: October 15, 2021 at 04:55 PM (#6046712)

Braves vs Red Sox, I'll referee:

C -- even
1B -- Freeman
2B -- Albies
SS -- X
3B -- Devers based on career history
OF -- Red Sox
DH -- JDM

It's quite close really. If we use just 2021 stats then 1B, 2B, 3B and the OF are all pretty close, the DH would only play in 4 games. But I'll give it to the Sox mainly based on X and the OF.

SP -- Braves, especially in a short series ... unless Sale is his old self maybe

pen -- draw ... or who knows? The Red Sox have two games I'm kinda familiar with in Barnes and Ottovino, neither had a particularly good year. The Braves have Smith as their familiar guy who didn't have a particularly good year. Both teams have some guys I've never heard of with excellent ERA+.

Really it's crazy close and looks to depend on which team's pumpkins burst.

33. and Posted: October 15, 2021 at 05:00 PM (#6046713)

I mean, either a 92 win team from a grueling division who beat the top seed and earned a spot in the lcs or they’re crappy and lucky. Which is it? They certainly seem like a really good team to me.

34. tonywagner Posted: October 15, 2021 at 05:17 PM (#6046716)

If Buehler starts game 1, it won't be on short rest. He pitched Tuesday, so Saturday is his regular day.

That would be short rest. Exactly the same as Buehler starting NLDS game 1 on a Friday, then game 4 on Tuesday (just 3 days in between).

35. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 15, 2021 at 05:31 PM (#6046718)

I think the Dodgers might be the best team of my lifetime

I thought Walt was older than 23. Way older.

36. TimeWarner Sucks Posted: October 15, 2021 at 05:39 PM (#6046720)

34 -- So I can't count to 5. Thanks for the correction.

In that case, I agree, they almost certainly won't start him on short rest again.

37. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 15, 2021 at 05:40 PM (#6046721)

Red Sox vs. Houston.
Atlanta vs. Los Angeles.

Kind of like the Iran-Iraq War, without the mass casualties. Tough to find a rooting interest here. Maybe something interesting will happen, or a team’s Evilness Above Replacement Level will increase enough to make rooting against them a clearer choice.

38. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: October 15, 2021 at 06:09 PM (#6046724)

pen -- draw ... or who knows? The Red Sox have two games I'm kinda familiar with

Brasier was very good in 2018. He's pitching well again. Robles has been very good lately, after a shaky regular season. Whitlock is very good. Taylor has been good. Houck has been great in long relief. They're solid in the pen.

39. Walt Davis Posted: October 15, 2021 at 06:58 PM (#6046726)

I thought Walt was older than 23.

Nope.

You mean the 98 Yankees? With the mediocre Tino, the fading Knoblauch, a miraculous Brosius season, the execrable Chad Curtis, Darryl's last hurrah, O'Neill's last hurrah, the tail end of Chili Davis and a rotation fronted by Pettitte and aged Wells and Cone? Not nearly as good as this Dodgers team. I'd have probably taken the Dodgers on opening day but adding Scherzer and Turner makes it Dodgers easy. Rivera (obviously) and Bernie are the only 98 Yankees I'd clearly choose to add to the current Dodgers lineup.

My internal debate is whether the Big Red Machine's off-the-charts offense is enough to overcome the 2021 Dodgers' pitching advantage.

For 2019-21, the Dodgers have a winning percentage of 664. They had the execrable Bauer, replaced him with Scherzer (possibly a last hurrah) and added Turner.

Now if you want to talk about "over a decade", then the 97-06 Yankees only real competition is probably the "we don't need no stinkin' World Series" Braves and maybe the 60s-70s O's ... and these Dodgers if they can keep this going a bit longer (which they look a good bet to do).

On the Dodgers' franchise page, b-r seems to have dug up a photo of Hershiser when he was 14.

40. pikepredator Posted: October 15, 2021 at 07:08 PM (#6046728)

This is Red Sox baseball! Yes!! I can’t remember being this excited for a playoff series without also being nervous.

Hopefully the Sox can be patient against Valdez and wait for walks + pitches to drive. Worst case would be a bunch of three-pitch groundouts.

41. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 07:11 PM (#6046729)

I mean, either a 92 win team from a grueling division who beat the top seed and earned a spot in the lcs or they’re crappy and lucky.

Nobody said they're crappy. But I look at that team and I see a lot of guys who aren't that great having career years, and they managed 92 wins in a division that the CW says is gruelling but wasn't markedly better than some others. Whoop-de-freaking-do.

42. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 07:13 PM (#6046730)

Note that the pythag, by the way, is actually 88 wins.

43. TomH Posted: October 15, 2021 at 07:14 PM (#6046731)

Were the 1998 Yankees a great team? Sure. But historically great? I can see reasons to say no:

- the 2021 Dodgers had a BETTER ratio of runs scored to allowed
- it was an expansion year. Often teams run up great records in expansion years. See 61 Yankees, 69 Orioles, etc. The Yankees were barely better (again, by RS-RA) than the 98 Astros and 98 Braves. They were fortunate not to have played either one in the WS; the Astros were en fuego with late-season add Randy Johnson.

But sure, they are a good candidate for best team of the past 25 years. It just isn't a slam dunk.

44. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 07:22 PM (#6046733)

Tough to find a rooting interest here.

Bwaaa, haaa, haaa, nice opine from the Yankees fan. If it were Yankees v anyone, all fans, bar the NY fans, would be rooting for the other guys.

Here's a story. Let's say the 2 battling WC teams managed to squeak through to the Series, then the discussion becomes who is the best team of the last 20 years. The one that has 4, possibly 5 titles or the one with a single title but is just so d*mned consistently good they are, to paraphrase Walt, the best team of my lifetime.(I am assuming Walt is over 50 since he's retiring soon/just did)

45. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 07:27 PM (#6046735)

I am assuming Walt is over 50 since he's retiring soon/just did

I assume he's over 50 because he's always been what used to feel like a lot older than me and now I'm 41.

Oh my God, I'm still posting on Baseball Primer at 41. It's been more than half my life.

Hey, if I became President, could you guys just keep it to yourselves that this is how I spent the ages of 19-41? Thanks. (Don't worry, I don't have any illusions that this might happen. But I kinda did when I started posting here.)

46. TomH Posted: October 15, 2021 at 07:28 PM (#6046736)

Best team of last 20 yrs? That was NYY easily, when it was 1996-2015. But 2002-2021? It ain't even close, my friends.

47. Andere Richtingen

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 07:51 PM (#6046741)

On the Dodgers' franchise page, b-r seems to have dug up a photo of Hershiser when he was 14.

Yeah, I think he’s 35 in that picture.

48. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:01 PM (#6046742)

That was NYY easily, when it was 1996-2015

Mate, I didn't say that, I said last 20 years, which is, like 2001-2021 type of deal(yeah, I know that's 21 years)

It ain't even close, my friends.

I assume you mean the Red Sox? But if the Dodgers win again this year, do they make the claim of the best so far this century?
They are insanely, consistently good every.single.year. And yeah, I am a Red Sox fan.

49. JJ1986 Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:04 PM (#6046745)

Verdugo-Arroyo-Vazquez is quite a run of horrible facial hair.

50. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:15 PM (#6046747)

I assume you mean the Red Sox? But if the Dodgers win again this year, do they make the claim of the best so far this century?
They are insanely, consistently good every.single.year. And yeah, I am a Red Sox fan.

Sox and Giants have won more titles, obviously, but the Dodgers of the Kershaw era are the most consistently great team of this century, for my money. Possibly the most consistently great since the obviously unsurpassable Yankees of the early-mid 20th century.

51. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:32 PM (#6046749)

Sox send 7 guys to the plate in the top half, don't score any runs.

52. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:33 PM (#6046751)

Verdugo-Arroyo-Vazquez is quite a run of horrible facial hair.

Imagine if Sale were batting.

53. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:33 PM (#6046753)

Sale, not looking overpowering. Bregman gets a soft liner over X, 2 on...

54. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:36 PM (#6046754)

Ump calling a real tight zone, Sale not getting anything borderline.

55. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:37 PM (#6046755)

SF brings in Altuve. With the way things are going, as a Sox fan, I'm actually pretty happy with that outcome.

56. Tom and Shivs couples counselor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:38 PM (#6046756)

54. Not really borderline per game day.

57. TomH Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:38 PM (#6046757)

vox, Sure. To date it is Dodgers up by 20 games cumulative record, 3 more times in the playoffs; 1 less pennant and 3 fewer trophies. So if HOU>BOS and LA>ATL and LA>HOU, I think LA "passes" them

58. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:38 PM (#6046758)

Sox behind again, employing the usual let's fall behind then win the game strategy!

59. TomH Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:40 PM (#6046759)

Sale slider is usually a ball (6 of 9 so far). But the FB is being hit.

60. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:41 PM (#6046760)

I haven't watched much Houston this year, but Correa batting 5th and Tucker 6th...how do you pitch to this lineup?
Correa with a couple of real loud fouls.

Again, Sale not looking sharp

61. Textbook Editor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:42 PM (#6046761)

I’d get Houck or Pivetta loose.

62. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:43 PM (#6046762)

I don't think either starter is making 5 innings at this rate. Sale threw 29 pitches and Valdez faced 7 batters.

Start the reliever parade!

63. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:47 PM (#6046763)

Astros defense burned twice on the shift now, one from Devers and now Verdugo

64. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:50 PM (#6046765)

Hey, if I became President, could you guys just keep it to yourselves that this is how I spent the ages of 19-41?

Don’t worry, any quality opposition research effort would probably find enough on just BBTF to make most posters unelectable.

65. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:50 PM (#6046766)

Astros turn another DP, good way to erase baserunners, that's for sure.

66. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:53 PM (#6046767)

Valdez really sets up Vazquez with the 3rd strike curve, really nice pitching.

67. Textbook Editor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 08:59 PM (#6046768)

Like seriously warm up someone. Sale fooling no one.

68. Textbook Editor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:02 PM (#6046769)

It would be a miracle to only be down 1 run in the 3rd.

69. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:10 PM (#6046770)

Jeez, Hernandez.

70. Infinite Yost (Voxter)

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:12 PM (#6046771)

Man, I forgot how much it sucks to try to follow the playoffs when you live on the east coast. I am on the verge of sleep and the game has barely started.

71. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:16 PM (#6046772)

oooh, Altuve boots the DP ball, X cruises around 3rd to score. Sox up 2-1.

72. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:18 PM (#6046774)

is it normal for Valdez to throw this many slow curves? He seems to have trouble getting in the zone though(well at least game)

73. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:18 PM (#6046775)

Man, I forgot how much it sucks to try to follow the playoffs when you live on the east coast. I am on the verge of sleep and the game has barely started.

If you go to bed now you’ll probably wake up in time to catch the last few innings.

74. PJ Martinez Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:21 PM (#6046776)

@ESPNStatsInfo Kiké Hernández is now 11-18 (.611) with 3 HR and 7 RBI in his last 4 postseason games. No player in MLB history has ever had that many hits, HR and RBI in a 4-game span in the postseason.

75. Textbook Editor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:28 PM (#6046777)

Only question now is how fast does Boston go to its pen to try to salvage the lead. Sale dancing between raindrops all game.

76. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:32 PM (#6046778)

Only question now is how fast does Boston go to its pen to try to salvage the lead. Sale dancing between raindrops all game.

Well if this is old school, like 20+ years ago, you'd wait to see if he can settle into the game and would give him another 3 innings at least.

These days, not so much

77. PJ Martinez Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:34 PM (#6046779)

Feels like I've seen more hitters beat the shift lately than I'm used to seeing.

78. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:35 PM (#6046780)

Yeah, they need guys up in the pen, Sale is not CHRIS SALE.

79. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:38 PM (#6046781)

wow, got Tucker to chase a high one, that was lucky.

And Sale is done.

80. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 09:45 PM (#6046784)

Well if this is old school, like 20+ years ago, you'd wait to see if he can settle into the game and would give him another 3 innings at least.

These days, not so much

They let them go longer in the regular season, but not so much postseason.

50 years ago, starting pitchers had a short leash, too. I saw one pulled after the first three batters got hits.

81. Textbook Editor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:17 PM (#6046788)

4 outs from Ottavino is well above expectations.

82. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:17 PM (#6046789)

This guys looks exactly like I'd expect a reliever named "Josh Taylor" to look.

83. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:23 PM (#6046790)

"The hitters' composure has been pretty good" = the ump needs to check his voicemail, he's missed a few calls.

84. Jay Seaver Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:33 PM (#6046791)

Kiké in the outfield making it look, well, difficult. But at least getting it done.

85. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:35 PM (#6046792)

Yeah, great diving catch to end the last inning, nearly clobbering Arroyo on the popup, and nearly misplaying that one.

86. Jay Seaver Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:40 PM (#6046794)

Given Arroyo's luck this year, it's a minor miracle that he hasn't already hit the IL twice during this game.

87. Jay Seaver Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:40 PM (#6046795)

Like, I'm sort of surprised Maldonado didn't just break Arroyo's elbow with that tag.

88. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 10:42 PM (#6046796)

I thought Maldanado might throw to first because he didn't get an out call. Don't count on it being overturned.

89. Tin Angel Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:01 PM (#6046798)

Not great location there.

90. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:04 PM (#6046800)

Love the Tiny Terror Tot!

91. Textbook Editor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:05 PM (#6046801)

Nope.

Perez warming. Storm clouds gathering.

92. Textbook Editor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:32 PM (#6046803)

Ah. Ok. It’s taken a while but I finally remembered how to hate the Astros properly.

I hope Christian Arroyo hits a HR and taps his wrist and says it’s his time.

93. PJ Martinez Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:36 PM (#6046804)

Weird pinch-hitting move, no?

94. Textbook Editor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:37 PM (#6046805)

This is a bizarre PH call right here.

95. Textbook Editor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:39 PM (#6046806)

I can only assume Renfro either really sucks against Graveman or he’s hurt.

96. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:39 PM (#6046807)

Joe Buck just pronounced Chaim Bloom like "Chain."

97. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:40 PM (#6046808)

Graveman demolished righties this year.

But I don’t like the move. It’s Danny Freaking Santana. If there was a decent LHB on the bench (e.g. Verdugo hadn’t started) fine, but Santana or even Shaw there, pass. Take your shot with Renfroe, especially with the Crawford Boxes.

98. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:46 PM (#6046810)

Per Speier from BBRef;

Vs. RHB .117/.222/.126 - 117 PA
Vs. LHB: .253/.352/.396 - 105 PA

That’s the “why” on the PH move. But still…Danny Santana.

99. Jay Seaver Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:51 PM (#6046811)

I kind of feel like once the league figured out that Sawamura's pitches were never actually going to wind up in the strike zone, no matter how they look coming out of his hand, it was over for him.

100. Textbook Editor Posted: October 15, 2021 at 11:53 PM (#6046812)

Sigh. White flag guys doing white flag things.

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