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2021 MLB Draft order to be set by 2020 standings, per report; Pirates get No. 1 pick, Red Sox in top five

Major League Baseball has decided that the final draft order for 2021will be determined by reverse order of the 2020 final standings, Alex Speier of the Boston Globe reports. That’s the typical way of ordering draft selections, and for some time it’s been believed that MLB would go that route.

The March agreement between MLB and the players association gave commissioner Rob Manfred has the right to modify the draft order rather than let the 60-game 2020 regular season determine it as usual, which led to speculation that MLB might depart from the usual format.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 12, 2020 at 10:02 PM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. caspian88 Posted: October 13, 2020 at 12:58 AM (#5982745)
I wonder if anyone will get Alex Trebek to announce their pick.
   2. Howie Menckel Posted: October 13, 2020 at 01:10 AM (#5982746)
I wanted to knee-jerk into "Mets get 10th pick, finally with a competent owner" jab

but their notable first round picks, including supplemental

2010 - Matt Harvey, 7th
2011 - Brandon Nimmo, 13th and Michael Fullmer 44th

2013 - Dominic Smith, 11th
2014 - Michael Conforto, 10th

2016 - Anthony Kay, 31st
2017 - David Peterson, 20th
2018 - Jarred Kelenic, 6th

and maybe
2019 Bret Baty 12th
2020 Pete Crow-Armstrong, 19th

draftniks, no one making a date for Cooperstown yet but - is that pretty good, so far anyway?

from 2001-10 1st round, picks include Aaron Heilman, David Wright, Scott Kazmir, Lastings Milledge, Philip Humber, Mike Pelfrey, Ike Davis......

Wright and some "misseditbythatmuch" guys

their best crop of first-rounders since the mid-1970s-80s


   3. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 13, 2020 at 10:10 AM (#5982765)
Yeah, that list strikes me as a pretty good track record, and it doesn't even include non-first rounders like deGrom, Alonso and McNeill.

One of the frustrations is that they haven't won more given that draft history.

They've made some bad trades but they've also made some good ones (Syndergaard, Wheeler). They've had a bad track record of keeping pitchers healthy and assembling a bullpen recently. And they don't have a very good track record in the international market. This article says their best all-time international signings are Jose Reyes, Edgardo Alfonzo, Carlos Gomez, Nelson Cruz, Octavio Dotel and Amed Rosario. That's not a very impressive haul, especially when you consider that they didn't derive any value from Cruz.

The international side seems like an area that is ripe for improvement under new ownership / management.
   4. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: October 13, 2020 at 10:33 AM (#5982768)
Matt Harvey was only drafted in 2010???

So in just 10 years he did everything a pitcher can do.

- rose through the minors
- became a star in the majors
- got Tommy John surgery
- returned and was a star again
- declined and got some other type of surgery
- became unpopular because of too much nightlife
- had to be traded to Cincinnati to revive his career
- got a nice contract from the Angels after reviving his career
- looked washed up with the Angels
- was signed by 2 other teams as a reclamation project
   5. SoSH U at work Posted: October 13, 2020 at 10:42 AM (#5982772)
I seem to recall a prior pitcher following almost that exact same path.
   6. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: October 13, 2020 at 11:31 AM (#5982775)
I seem to recall a prior pitcher following almost that exact same path.


Well, this part - "looked washed up with the Angels" - happens to 97% of good pitchers when they become bad, so we can't narrow it down from that.
   7. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 13, 2020 at 11:38 AM (#5982779)

I was surprised to see that Prior never made it back to the majors after leaving the Cubs.

There's a pretty long list of guys who have followed some variation of that storyline.
   8. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: October 13, 2020 at 01:58 PM (#5982801)
As a Red Sox fan, I am thrilled by this decision. If we are going to treat the 2020 World Series as equally legitimate as any other (which we should), then why wouldn't you treat the regular-season records for the purpose of drafting the same as any other year?

Boston's decision to go full tanking for 2020 was the right decision, and looking better every day.
   9. villageidiom Posted: October 13, 2020 at 02:12 PM (#5982803)
If we are going to treat the 2020 World Series as equally legitimate as any other (which we should)
Now hold on there just a second. We all know if the Rays win the WS it will be considered a fluke year that shouldn't really count.
   10. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 13, 2020 at 02:17 PM (#5982807)
Pirates fans already counting down the days until they lose Kumar Rocker to free agency.
   11. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: October 13, 2020 at 02:32 PM (#5982812)
The amazing think about Matt Harvey is not the career path but how little time there was between each of the peaks and valleys. A real roller coaster ride.

Mark Prior's just had one peak and then he never recovered from his first surgery. Although he was signed by 5 different teams as a reclamation project and never got to the majors with any of them. Came close with the Red Sox.

Harvey has time to be 10 or 12 more reclamation projects if he wants to.
   12. Rally Posted: October 13, 2020 at 03:03 PM (#5982818)
Well, this part - "looked washed up with the Angels" - happens to 97% of good pitchers when they become bad, so we can't narrow it down from that.


And those are the lucky ones. The unlucky ones end up dead.

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