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Tuesday, October 26, 2021

2021 World Series OMNICHATTER!

Houston vs. Atlanta

Well, I hope you’re happy.

Scoreboards for the Major Leagues and all minor leagues,
courtesy of Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee).

Hombre Brotani Posted: October 26, 2021 at 05:21 AM | 456 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: October 27, 2021 at 08:53 PM (#6049460)
Flip
   102. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 27, 2021 at 08:53 PM (#6049461)
Ironically, if the Braves hadn't used the shift at all this inning, it would've been 1,2,3 and out.
   103. Tony S Posted: October 27, 2021 at 08:54 PM (#6049462)
When was the last time Altuve was ahead in the count? The White Sox series?
   104. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 27, 2021 at 08:54 PM (#6049463)
No reason to leave Fried in there now the game is gonna be over
   105. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 27, 2021 at 08:59 PM (#6049465)
WExp at 85 to 88%. There's no benefit to leaving Fried in
   106. bunyon Posted: October 27, 2021 at 09:00 PM (#6049466)
Sunday, yes. Both skippers have been slow with the hook at the start of games with a starter who doesn’t have it.
   107. Mike A Posted: October 27, 2021 at 09:00 PM (#6049467)
No reason to leave Fried in there now the game is gonna be over
With Morton's injury the Braves need innings.

As for the umps, at least according to umpire scorecards the Braves have gotten the calls in 1 out of their 11 postseason games (-4.32 overall runs).
   108. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 27, 2021 at 09:03 PM (#6049468)
can we count that as:

[x] miscommunication among fielders (throwing error Maldonado)
   109. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: October 27, 2021 at 09:04 PM (#6049469)
Well, at least this game isn't going to make me feel bad about internet shopping for Art Deco stuff while I watch it.
   110. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 27, 2021 at 09:05 PM (#6049470)

Sunday, yes. Both skippers have been slow with the hook at the start of games with a starter who doesn’t have it.


I sort of understood why they left Morton out there not here.
   111. Tony S Posted: October 27, 2021 at 09:06 PM (#6049471)
To quote the cliché, that was a nice shutdown inning by Urquidy.
   112. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 27, 2021 at 09:10 PM (#6049472)
did we get any further news on MOrton's broken leg? They x rayed it initially and found no break, then they x rayed it again and it was broken? That sounds bad either way. Either it was broken initially and it was misdiagnosed. Or it wasnt broken and he broke it or made it worse by continuing to pitch, ugh.
   113. bunyon Posted: October 27, 2021 at 09:14 PM (#6049473)
I don’t think they x-rayed the leg in the half inning after he was hit.
   114. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 27, 2021 at 09:17 PM (#6049475)
They had to amputate after the game.
   115. bunyon Posted: October 27, 2021 at 09:48 PM (#6049480)
Like I said, gotta get Fried out of there.
   116. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:02 PM (#6049483)
Tonight’s game is breezing by. Just less than 2:00 in, and it’s bottom of the sixth
   117. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:11 PM (#6049486)
I don’t believe I’m familiar with this model of left-handed bullpen droid.
   118. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:18 PM (#6049488)
Who’s excited for their free Taco Bell taco?
   119. Tony S Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:18 PM (#6049489)
Siri needed to shorten his stroke there.
   120. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:21 PM (#6049490)
How many players on either team know the song, “Hell’s Bells”, which came out in 1980
   121. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:31 PM (#6049491)
How many players on either team know the song, “Hell’s Bells”, which came out in 1980


Before Fox was playing "back in Black"

If they throw in "TNT" and "its a long way to the top" they've covered the best of akka/dakka 1975-1980....Australia beams with pride!
   122. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:33 PM (#6049492)
What do you guys think the over/under is on percentage of current MLB players not participating in the World Series who watch the World Series?
   123. bunyon Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:33 PM (#6049493)
Baseball players? All of them know it. If they’ve come through the minors, they know it.
   124. bunyon Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:33 PM (#6049494)
122: 40%
   125. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:35 PM (#6049495)
Baseball players? All of them know it. If they’ve come through the minors, they know it.
Color me highly skeptical.
   126. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:35 PM (#6049496)
122: 40%
Would you bet the over or the under on that?
   127. JJ1986 Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:37 PM (#6049498)
Watching intently? Definitely the under.
   128. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:52 PM (#6049500)
“And now, a word for you from Bud Light Seltzer: ‘Yes, that’s right! We’ve managed to come up with something that tastes even worse than Bud Light!’”
   129. bunyon Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:56 PM (#6049502)
126: I set it. I wouldn't bet either way. If I was going to bet the over, I'd set the line higher.

I do agree with 127. But 1) I think a lot of players really do love the game. I've only known a few professional players but they freaking love the game. It's all they do or think about (well, booze and girls). 2) the game is very interconnected. Even players who don't just love the game have friends playing in the Series. They may not fly across the country and wear their uniform, but they pay attention.

Eh, I convinced myself. I'd bet the over.
   130. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 27, 2021 at 11:04 PM (#6049506)
Soler juuuuuust missed it. Whoah.
   131. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 27, 2021 at 11:08 PM (#6049508)
Eh, I convinced myself. I'd bet the over.
So, maybe over 40 percent but less than half?

Anyone else have a take? I don’t really have a guess, I’m just curious.
   132. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: October 27, 2021 at 11:14 PM (#6049510)
Could have made some real money betting on Kyle Wright striking out the side in any inning during the World Series.
   133. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 28, 2021 at 12:45 AM (#6049518)

I don’t think they x-rayed the leg in the half inning after he was hit.


according to ESPN story written by Alden Gonzalez he's saying they x rayed it, he threw some pitches against a net then he went out for the 3rd inn. Then he throws six pitches comes out of the game, and another x ray says its fractured.

I just shudder to think how much damage he may have done to it if it broke when he got hit and then he didnt really feel it because of adrenaline, or shock, and then he put more weight on it. That just sounds horrible.
   134. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 28, 2021 at 12:53 AM (#6049519)
Like I said, gotta get Fried out of there.


They were debating this on ESPN at that pt. And I think there is a certain pt. where my thinking changed.

Initially, it was you've got to get him out of there to try to win the game. Winning games are the only thing that matters and anything that ups the WExp is good.

But then at a certain pt. the game is 90% lost and you think lets think long term, ATL is still tied in the series, we've got a long way to go, we might as well save our bull pen and get as many inn out of him as we can.

its almost like there's no right or wrong answer at a certain pt. because there's so many possible paths the series could take. or is there a clear way to see it?
   135. bunyon Posted: October 28, 2021 at 06:56 AM (#6049522)
133; wild. I hadn’t seen that.

134: I was definitely thinking from the win the game standpoint. Really didn’t think he’d settle down so well. He gave them a chance to come back. They just didn’t hit.
   136. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 28, 2021 at 11:15 AM (#6049581)
The pen got worked in Game 1 since Morton went out so early. Good for Fried for settling down and getting through 5, and the Braves didn't have to use Minter, Matzek or Smith in this game.
   137. Tony S Posted: October 28, 2021 at 03:08 PM (#6049660)
So, maybe over 40 percent but less than half?

Anyone else have a take? I don’t really have a guess, I’m just curious.


I think it's under 40%, if not way under. Most people don't want to be reminded of work during off-hours.

There are probably eight Jeff Kings for every Pete Rose.
   138. bunyon Posted: October 28, 2021 at 03:14 PM (#6049662)
Tony, is that supposition or do you know players? My sample size of pro ball players is very small, so I'm far from certain I'm right.
   139. Tony S Posted: October 28, 2021 at 03:18 PM (#6049663)
Out of the highly reputable pulledoutofmybutt.com site. I'm having a hard time picturing Gerrit Cole glued to the Series broadcasts, snarling from his sofa at what might have been.

Heck, Justin Verlander isn't even with his team.

It's probably proportional to the general population at large.
   140. Tony S Posted: October 28, 2021 at 03:25 PM (#6049667)

Last night was the first time I saw Jose Siri.

Very impressed with his speed, hustle and enthusiasm.

Plate discipline needs a lot of work, though. He was swinging for the fences with two men in scoring position.
   141. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:04 AM (#6049854)
Kwik-Kwiz: Thanks to the Astros and COVID, ten straight World Series games have been played in Texas (last two of 2019, all six in 2020 and the first two of 2021). When was the last time 10 or more WS games were played in the same state?
   142. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:14 AM (#6049856)
Were the A's home for games one and two in 1990? That would be eleven in a row (5 in 88, 4 in 89, 2 in 90)*

EDITED because I'm bad at math.
   143. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:27 AM (#6049862)
55 and 56 is 14, I think. Purely going on memory.
   144. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:32 AM (#6049865)
Yeah, if it's not 1988-90 then it's probably one of the subway series.
   145. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:34 AM (#6049866)
First two in 57 were in New York also. So 16.
   146. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: October 29, 2021 at 12:58 PM (#6049890)
Yep, sixteen straight WS games in NY from 1955-57...and that's not even the record!

There were 23 (count 'em) straight WS games in NY from 1950-53...which means, in the first seven World Series (Serieses?) of the 1950s, fully 39 of 41 games were played in NYC (the other two in Cleveland in 1954). Yikes, and away!

It's not hard to figure out how NY fans got so entitled. I mean, with two NYC teams in the NL and one in the AL, there should've been only a 3.125% random chance that the Yankees would meet the Giants or Dodgers in the World Series; other things being equal, there should've literally a one-in-a-million chance (1 in 1,048,576, to be precise) that there would've been four consecutive all-NYC WS. Other things were not equal, of course, and that's exactly what happened from 1950-53 (and again in 1955-56).

Oh, and there were 19 straight WS games in NY from 1921-23 and another 11 straight in 1936-37. (The next time a Yankees fan complains, remind them of this statistic.) Before this year, the longest skeins outside NY were 1906-07 in Illinois (nine), 1943-44 in Missouri (eight) and 1988-89 in California (nine). (Also, Maryland pulled off five in a row in 1970-71.)
   147. Howie Menckel Posted: October 29, 2021 at 01:54 PM (#6049907)
Active* Wins Leaders, Dodgers and Astros in CAPS (age)

1. ZACK GREINKE (137) 219
2. Jon Lester (37) 200
3. MAX SCHERZER (36) 190
4. CLAYTON KERSHAW (33) 185
5. Adam Wainwright (39) 184
6. DAVID PRICE (35) 155
7. Ervin Santana (38) 151
8. Johnny Cueto (35) 135
9. J.A. Happ (38) 133
10. Madison Bumgarner (31) 127

11. Gerrit Cole (30) 117
12. Jake Arrieta (35) 115
12. Lance Lynn (34) 115
13. Chris Sale (32) 114
14. Stephen Strasburg (32) 113
15. Scott Kazmir (37) 108
16. CHARLIE MORTON (37) 107
17. Corey Kluber (35) 103
18. Ian Kennedy (36) 100
19. Dallas Keuchel (33) 99
20. Wade Miley (34) 97

(no other active pitcher has 90)

* - pitched in MLB in 2021, so my list doesn't have:
Justin Verlander (38) 226
Cole Hamels (37) 163

Wins Leaders under 30:
Aaron Nola (28) 67
Eduardo Rodriguez (28) 64
Jose Berrios (27) 60
Zach Davies (28) 56
German Marquez (26) 54
   148. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 29, 2021 at 08:27 PM (#6049983)
1st inning chop chant.
   149. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 29, 2021 at 08:39 PM (#6049984)
Did you get a little aroused by the pwning of the libs?
   150. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2021 at 09:50 PM (#6049988)
They definitely encourage the chant at the park.


And it’s cold.
   151. Snowboy Posted: October 29, 2021 at 09:51 PM (#6049989)
Is anyone (here or on tv) going to mention the weather? It appears to be sleeting in ATL?
   152. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2021 at 09:54 PM (#6049990)
It’s the cameras. It’s only been coming down hard enough to notice a couple of times.
   153. Snowboy Posted: October 29, 2021 at 09:59 PM (#6049991)
My bad. Thanks.
   154. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2021 at 10:04 PM (#6049992)
Snowboy, dammit. You jinxed us.
   155. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: October 29, 2021 at 10:37 PM (#6049995)
The Braves pitching performance tonight has been very interesting, if decidedly less than perfect.
   156. Mike A Posted: October 29, 2021 at 10:45 PM (#6049998)
I can confirm it is cold, rainy and absolutely miserable out there tonight. It is decidedly not baseball weather.
   157. Zach Posted: October 29, 2021 at 10:46 PM (#6050000)
Oooh, nice catch!
   158. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 29, 2021 at 10:47 PM (#6050001)
For someone not used to playing centerfield, it's a heck of a catch.
   159. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 29, 2021 at 10:52 PM (#6050002)
Did everyone else just get that “own the wokes” ad about the Georgia election law, or just us in GA?

No hits through 6.1.

Edit: wokes, not wolves
   160. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 29, 2021 at 10:54 PM (#6050003)
The weather here at my house is cool, with light but steady rain. As the crow flies, I’m probably 8-10 miles from the park.
   161. Howie Menckel Posted: October 29, 2021 at 10:59 PM (#6050004)
nice to see "first time of 6 no-hit innings since Koosman, Mets, Game 2, 1969"

remember that game, and attended the game of his jersey being retired recently - not a big bobblehead fan, but a fun bonus to the visit.
:)
   162. Snowboy Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:00 PM (#6050005)
[159] Didn't get played here.
Then again, I'm on the INTL feed, with "Scotty" Braun and Dan Plesac (where Hall of Famer "Craig Bagswell" and current Atlanta Braves second baseman "Alzbey Ozzbie" reside)
   163. Snowboy Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:02 PM (#6050006)
wow, "own the wokes" WHAT?
   164. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:07 PM (#6050007)
The ad was basically saying, “hey MLB, you moved the All Star game, but the WS is being played here anyway, therefore our law is fair and just”. Truly ironclad logic on display.
   165. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:09 PM (#6050009)
Eddie Rosario, don't you have to at least try to catch that?
   166. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:16 PM (#6050010)
Matzek is just crushing everyone this postseason
   167. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:18 PM (#6050011)
Siri is really fast.
   168. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:19 PM (#6050012)
I guess you have to accept some defensive limitations from your left fielder when he hits .500 in the NLCS.
   169. Snowboy Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:19 PM (#6050013)
VottoBlottoMoppo I'll look for that commercial.
Meanwhile you got that right, Matzek is MONEY right now.
   170. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:23 PM (#6050014)
Last Braves home World Series win was 1-0 I think.
   171. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:24 PM (#6050016)
I’m magic
   172. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:24 PM (#6050017)
With Alvarez due up in the ninth, that is one damn big insurance run.
   173. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:33 PM (#6050018)
I think Smoltz has a journal where he records every hit against the shift.
   174. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:38 PM (#6050020)
Woo, and may I add, hoo.
   175. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 29, 2021 at 11:42 PM (#6050022)
Well done Braves. Their itching has been excellent.
   176. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 30, 2021 at 02:46 AM (#6050027)
Well done Braves. Their itching has been excellent.
You would think that that would adversely affect their performance.
   177. Tony S Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:37 AM (#6050036)
Eddie Rosario, don't you have to at least try to catch that?


In a regular-season game with a no-hitter on the line, yes.

In a World Series game, you need to keep the ball in front of you and prevent the hitter from getting into scoring position with no one out in a one-run game. I think Rosario made the right decision given the circumstances.

Also, multi-pitcher no-hitters aren't very sexy anyway.

   178. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 30, 2021 at 01:42 PM (#6050072)
More of the same weather-wise today. It’s been cool and damp here since Thursday. Braves planning on bullpen games for today and tomorrow.
   179. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 30, 2021 at 02:22 PM (#6050080)
In a World Series game, you need to keep the ball in front of you and prevent the hitter from getting into scoring position with no one out in a one-run game.


But he didn't even keep the ball in front of him! It didn't get far enough behind Rosario for the runner to advance, but that seemed to have more to do with the ball dying in the wet grass.
   180. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 30, 2021 at 07:21 PM (#6050138)
I had a random thought about sign stealing:

There's a lot of sign stealing going on these days and I wonder if you come up with a system where the catcher would blink his eyes in a certain pattern and then the pitcher could signal back whether he agrees or not with the sign. The finger waggling could be like a distraction having nothing to do with it. I guess the pitcher would have to have enuf eyes to see the catchers eyes at 60' 6".
   181. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:22 PM (#6050144)
At 1 out per pitcher, the Braves may need to call upon some position players to take the mound. Still early.
   182. Tony S Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:22 PM (#6050145)
Where are you tonight, Dylan Lee?
   183. Tony S Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:26 PM (#6050147)
Bregman and Correa have picked the wrong time to synchronize their swoons.
   184. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:32 PM (#6050148)
was the infield in on that GB that scored the run? They wont show the game at this truck stop dammit.
   185. Tony S Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:34 PM (#6050149)
It was in IIRC, but it was a very slow grounder.
   186. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:43 PM (#6050152)
pitcher batting 8th? WOt the hell?
   187. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:44 PM (#6050153)
Game cast is great you see the laser beam of the ball and the little blue dots run around the bases...
   188. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:45 PM (#6050154)
In a World Series game, you need to keep the ball in front of you and prevent the hitter from getting into scoring position with no one out in a one-run game.


But he didn't even keep the ball in front of him! It didn't get far enough behind Rosario for the runner to advance, but that seemed to have more to do with the ball dying in the wet grass.

Yeah, the way that ball was hit even on a dive it wasn’t really going behind Rosario in a meaningful way. I don’t think Rosario had to dive, he just had to keep coming hard and call off Swanson a bit more forcefully than he did.
   189. Tony S Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:47 PM (#6050155)
The last pitcher hit in MLB history?
   190. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:48 PM (#6050156)
pitcher batting 8th? WOt the hell?


There you go.

I do love the pitcher wearing the jacket.
   191. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:50 PM (#6050157)
pitcher batting 8th? WOt the hell?


According to the TV broadcast, the only other starting pitcher to hit other than ninth in a World Series Game was Babe Ruth, who hit sixth in 1918, Game 4.
   192. Tony S Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:52 PM (#6050158)
Both of the Astros pitchers in the batting order get hits, and the Astros still don't score.
   193. Voodoo Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:54 PM (#6050159)
The last pitcher hit in MLB history?


Oooh! I hadn't thought about that. Fitting for it to be Greinke.

Who's the best hitting pitcher of the 21st century? Without looking anything up I kinda think and hope it's Carlos Zambrano. Nah, I guess it was that Arizona guy, Micha Something or other. Obviously Shohei Ohtani doesn't count for this exercise, and I'd argue neither does a Michael Lorenzen type either, cuz he played a lot in the field too. A Travis Wood, however, does count even though he too had some (one?) notable moment(s) as a position player.
   194. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 30, 2021 at 08:58 PM (#6050160)
why to the Astros have two pitchers in their batting order? Did someone make the wrong line up card?
   195. Tony S Posted: October 30, 2021 at 09:00 PM (#6050162)
Maldonado is effectively a second pitcher at the plate. He's Luis Pujols with defense.


   196. Tony S Posted: October 30, 2021 at 09:05 PM (#6050163)
I know it's Halloween, Bregman, but you're supposed to carve a pumpkin, not become one.
   197. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 30, 2021 at 09:13 PM (#6050166)
this could backfire..
   198. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 30, 2021 at 09:14 PM (#6050167)
PH for Wright? He's thrown 41 pitches and doesnt seem sharp
   199. Tony S Posted: October 30, 2021 at 09:14 PM (#6050168)
Usually walking someone to get to the pitcher often does backfire. But when you have Maldonado leading off the next inning, it's a smart play.
   200. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 30, 2021 at 09:19 PM (#6050169)
they don't have any more pitching to spare?
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