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Thunder (NJ) 1-0 @ Spurs (Stiggles) 1-0
Starting Lineups:
Thunder
Stephen Curry
Reggie Miller
George Gervin
Kevin McHale
Dwight Howard
Spurs
Kyrie Irving
Drazen Petrovic
Kawhi Leonard
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Yao Ming
Synopsis:
I usually write out a high level game flow description in this space, but let’s get meta. Roster sizes in 2K are 13 players deep, but our Corona draft only went ten rounds. To account for the size discrepancy, I inserted into roster spots 11 through 13 low rated generic players that are available in the game. Guys with last names of Smith and Brown, equipped with Chuck Taylors and ratings in the 60s. Ensuring that none of these players were in the coaches’ rotations, I assumed that we wouldn’t see an appearance from the stock background actors. But what if? What if a team had a big lead and a coach that liked to tweak the norms? What if the Spurs had a 28 point lead at the start of the fourth quarter and a Coach Popovich that wanted to send a message? All three of the Spurs’ scrubs got two minutes of playing time to start the final quarter. One of them scored! How did the game go? The Spurs got to the paint at will, the Thunder didn’t shoot well, and the game was not as close as the final score would indicate. Final score: Spurs 123 (2-0), Thunder 107 (1-1).
Key stat:
The Spurs shot 44% from deep (8-18), led by Drazen Petrovic (3-5), while the Thunder shot 21% (7-33).
Nail in the coffin:
Steph Curry ate some tainted breakfast tacos earlier in the day. He missed nine of his 12 shots from range.
Player of the game:
Giannis went 19/14/7 on 8-10 shooting.
Strong in defeat:
Dwight Howard totaled 26 points (with an impressive six dunks) and 12 rebounds.
On the other hand:
Yao Ming is not a central part of the Spurs’s offense, but he is an excellent complement to the guards and wings. He had ten points on seven shots and also added 7 boards and 5 blocks.
Water through a sieve:
A sports computer game always needs to consider the balance between creating as accurate a simulation as possible with arcade-style playability. One of the choices that seems to be apparent with 2K is that the fouling dial must have been intentionally lowered. It’s a decision that makes sense, but also one that creates an opportunity for certain performances to stand out. Specifically, Kyrie got to the line ten times, which is easily a high water mark for this replay tournament so far. Irving sank all ten, bringing his point total to 33. One can only imagine how much smack he was talking to Westbrook, who took the brunt of Kyrie’s wrath.
Poster collector:
Russell Westbrook now has a two game posterizing streak. He dunked hard on Brent Barry in the first quarter, then stood over him and flexed. Good for Russell.
Coming next is the Bulls (Willard) and the Lakers (Hombre). Both teams are 0-1, likely available tomorrow…
if you haven't done any writing professionally - well, you have talent. concise, and not predictabl as if you are locked into a rigid format. and yet, not all-over-the-place so there's no consistency at all.
and Drazen references - damn, 30 years ago this June
:(
hot take:
giannis is the early frontrunner for league MVP.
fun fact:
i spent 30 seconds counting names on my fingers because i didn't know who those ####### guys were.
one of the interesting things i'm seeing is the offensive setup that my team is using. it seems like petrovic was being used as the primary initiator, and kyrie is getting a lot of looks out of the high post.
weird. but effective. for now, at least.
it's deserved. the 'concise' element is the least-instinctive part, I think, for anyone not in the business (as I just cut off the second half of my post. heh).
your audience here understandably loves your recaps and - every comedian/writer knows this, of course - always leave them wanting more, not less.
have not watched the 'video clips' - but that also shows a modern versatility and grasp of the audience desires.
I doubt this will show up in the simulation games, but Chuck Daly got Drazen to buy into significant defensive improvement in what sadly was his final season. he also was a strong ballhandler for a "2 guard" and could lure double-teams and exploit that. his career arc was very much on the rise.
Kyrie abused OKC guards all game. This is just a taste.
Russ with the thunder, then the sweet move into the lane.
For STIGGLES: Gerald Wallace highlight.
The Giannis show. McHale has no shot. From Kawhai. Back to Leonard. In deep.
Unfair: Yao posts up Russ.
that's what my team is built to do, to be fair. i prioritized defense, versatility and athleticism everywhere else, but at PG, i picked the best 1v1 gunners i could find. i wanted PGs with unlimited range and unlimited usage potential, and between kyrie and dame, i think i nailed it.
i know my roster construction was meme'd on (especially after i picked yao), but this was my design from the start. (although, i would have taken ben simmons in the 5th round, if he was available. that would have been much worse for the team, but much funnier for me.)
Bulls (Willard) 0-1 @ Lakers (Hombre) 0-1
Starting Lineups:
Bulls
Gary Payton
Michael Jordan
Vince Carter
Dirk Nowitzki
Patrick Ewing
Lakers
Chris Paul
Brandon Roy
Clyde Drexler
Pau Gasol
Wilt Chamberlain
Synopsis:
Somewhere along the way, I made an executive decision: I would change the playing style setting for teams that have lost and then let the CPU reset the lineups. This is in line with how I set up the league at the beginning, I’m just switching from one recommended playing style to another. The Bulls, for example, were set to a “Pace & Space” setting in their first game, and I bumped them to a “Balanced” setting in this game. Why do this? One, a person only gets so many chances to be supreme ruler of the universe. Two, I wanted to guard against teams being unfairly hurt by the CPU suggesting a playbook that didn’t work out. Three, I liked the idea of additional diversity in the plays and highlights we get to see. All that to say that this game was another blowout. The unwanted backups made appearances again. In this game we learned that the Lakers have an end of the bench guard named Scrubb and also that I apparently put Chocolate Thunder himself on the tail end of the Bulls bench. We also learned that Vince Carter can do no wrong. Final score: Bulls 112 (1-1), Lakers 87 (0-2).
Key stat:
The Bulls shot 12-31 from outside the arc, led by Dirk (6-14) and Vince (3-5), while the Lakers shot just 5-32. Chris Paul, in particular, was egregiously bad from distance.
Nail in the coffin:
This game was over when the Lakers’ starters told Coach Ham that they were unable to go for 48 minutes. The team’s second unit was destroyed: Barkley (-34), Embiid (-29), Barry (-28), and Lowry (-27) got run out of the gym.
Player of the game:
Vince Carter had 29 points on 15 shots.
Strong in defeat:
Wilt Chamberlain had 20 points and 20 rebounds. His inside game was just about the only effective offense the Lakers had while the game was still in doubt.
The U wing:
I had a high school classmate (early to mid 90s), who used to claim that the Hall of Fame would one day build a brand new wing just to pay appropriate homage to Patrick Ewing and that they would call it the U Wing. Get it? Anyway, Patrick had a solid enough game (12 points, 18 rebounds) but that kid didn’t know what he was talking about.
Glove love:
Gary Payton’s addition to the lineup not only led to a better flowing offense for the Bulls, but it creates a pretty scary defensive backcourt when paired with MJ. A frustrated Chris Paul kept chucking shots and was incredulous that they weren’t going in. Payton ended with 8 points and 13 assists.
The Milton Berle effect:
The top two draft picks were, of course, LeBron and Jordan, and we now have examples of both their teams winning games without a ton of output from the megastars. Jordan probably got up to 15 points or so, but a lot of that came late in garbage time. Is he saving himself for a later explosion? Or is he confused by having offensive talent around him?
Coming next is the debut of the Suns (Obscura) against the 1-0 Bucks (DCA). Should be up tomorrow…
I do not mourn the passing of February basketball.
I think the conference semifinals and finals in the East could be pretty special this year.
skin bayless
hasan minhaj
one of these things is not like the other.
3/12 from the field!
4 turnovers!
28 minutes for Westbrook compared to 24 for Mann or 12 for Bones.
Or just this play.
In related news, the best deal Milwaukee made at the deadline wasn't adding Crowder, it was getting rid of George Hill. Any minute that could go to George Hill should have just been going to Jevon Carter instead.
Suns (Obscura) 0-0 @ Bucks (DCA) 1-0
Starting Lineups:
Suns
Tim Hardaway
Ray Allen
Billy Cunningham
Tim Duncan
Bill Russell
Bucks
John Stockton
Dwyane Wade
Julius Erving
George Mikan
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Synopsis:
In a back and forth first quarter highlighted by good defense and/or poor shooting, the Suns took the early advantage. It was quickly evident that scoring inside was basically not an option for the Suns, so they turned to Ray Allen, who hit two 3-balls en route to eight first quarter points. Amar’e Stoudamire provided a few more buckets off the bench to give the Suns a 27-24 lead. On the other side, Kareem had three blocks in Q1 alone. The second quarter belonged to Dr. J, as he relentlessly attacked the rim, ending with 17 points at the half. That, plus two more blocks from Kareem, slingshotted the Bucks in front, 54-49 at the half. The rest of the game was two tales in tension. The Bucks could drive the lane readily but couldn’t shoot from outside. The Suns had some decent 3-point shooting but were nearly lost inside. An eight point Bucks lead after three evaporated as Luka Doncic imposed his will in the fourth. The game was tied with just a couple minutes remaining but the Bucks went back to basics. Get. To. The. Hoop. Dwyane Wade took over for the Bucks down the stretch as no one could effectively guard him and the shots stopped falling for the Suns. Final score: Bucks 107 (2-0), Suns (0-1).
Key stat:
The Bucks scored an astounding 70 points from inside the paint, compared to just 44 for the Suns.
Nail in the coffin:
With a four point lead and about a minute left in the game, D-Wade blew by his man for a layup. The Suns quickly hoisted a three in the return possession, it clanked, and it was game over.
Player of the game:
In one of the emptiest box scores you’ll ever see, Dwyane Wade put up a 34/1/2 line. He scored all those points despite going 0-9 from deep. He hit 67% of his two point shots, however.
Strong in defeat:
The Suns team ambled into the visitors locker room from the team bus. There was a nervous energy in the room as the team anticipated their first game of the tournament. These veteran players, rich with experience and accomplishments, still had that Christmas morning feeling as they saw their freshly pressed jerseys hanging in their lockers. Each player had his own routine, mostly dressing and mentally preparing in meditative silence. In front of the captain’s locker, however, something was off. He sat on his stool, nearly naked, holding his jersey in hand but making no movement. Even his breathing slowed as he approached a catatonic trance. The other players began to take notice and a murmur circled the air. There was an anxious urgency at play; each man knew that the issue needed attention; no man wanted to be the one to break the ice. Most of the guys figured Tim or Ray would handle it. They both seemed older than their teammates for some reason and were daily leaders in practice. But neither felt comfortable as a vocal leader and they both had so much respect for the captain. Ray, in particular, knew it was the right thing to do, so why had his throat gotten so damn dry? Billy finally took charge. He was the only one who had previously played against the captain and he always seemed to have the right words, you know?
He took a seat next to Bill. “Hey man, what’s up?”
“I’m just noticing on these jerseys. There’s a patch.”
“Yeah, I know, Bill.”
“It’s a number six.”
“Look, Bill. This is awkward and the guys here have your back no matter what.”
Bill sat silent, so Billy continued.
“It’s a tribute to your number, Bill. You passed away last summer.”
“Huh?”
“Yeah, I can’t really explain it. But you still get to play somehow.”
Silence. Then one of the assistant coaches entered.
“OK guys. Warm-ups and shoot-around in ten.”
Bill Russell, once over the initial existential shock, suited up and started the game, taking the opening tip against Kareem. But his game seemed off in the first half. Had some things on his mind, man. He finished the game at 7/11/3, with a couple of blocks.
Glass men:
George Mikan (16), Kareem (12), and Joakim Noah (11) all had double digit rebounds as part of the overall near-rim dominance from the Bucks.
Strategic targeting:
For the Bucks, the second source of scoring beyond Wade was Dr. J, who finished with 23 points, including going 7-7 from the free throw line. The common denominator between both Wade’s and Erving’s outbursts was poor perimeter defense. Ray Allen was the most frequent target; he not only picked up five fouls, but he was also well out of frame on several of Wade’s jump shots. Other wing defenders, specifically Joe Dumars and Luka Doncic, appeared to give too little resistance. And while rim protection should be a strength for the Suns, at some point a rickety fence gives way to a tidal wave.
Not so FUNdamental:
Bill Russell wasn’t the only big man to struggle for identity in this game. Tim Duncan managed just nine points on 12 shots, as he was thoroughly frustrated on the post. Perhaps the biggest slap in the face came when he did a series of low block pivot moves until he felt confident he had the space for an open shot. Instead, Kareem blocked the shot so hard off the glass that it caromed to the foul line.
The next game up is a matchup of 0-1 teams, the Hawks (Dolf Lucky) and Blazers (tshipman). However, next week is spring break, so I don’t anticipate many games getting run, if any. If I can’t get a game in, I’ll pick it back up on the 13th…
And great job on adjusting play books/PT. I wondered why I. Thomas played so much and got torched by Steph in game one, when I could build around a backcourt of GP/MJ. These writeups and videos are very fun. I am in the middle of baseball season and still logging in here each day to get caught up, and I usually avoid the board here in early spring.
You think Isaac gets a free sandwich or something when he visits the MRI? Like a punch card situation?
ladies and gentlemen, i present to you:
stephen a smith responds to the lakers trading kwame brown for pau gasol.
Kareem wrecks Russell. Kareem finishes the PnR.
Oop to the Doctor. Dr. J finishes the break.
MORE LIKE CUNNING-JAM, AMIRITE?
Luka and STAT two-man game. Realistic Luka step-back. Luka takes Wade inside. And again.
Hardaway in crunch time.
Wade beats the clock. Beats Luka. Beats Cunningham. Backdoors Luka. Calls bank. Beats Ray. Beats Hardaway.
Obligatory Detlef highlight.
It might be the wrong term, but I was trying to imply that Wade didn’t do anything but score. It was still hella effective, obviously.
These replays have made me think about what an expected score would be if these games happened for real. If you had these all-star plus rosters, with max effort on both sides of the ball, do teams score more than average, less than average, or about the same?
My gut says they’d score more and that the game is over correcting on defense, but who knows?
Sacramento, quite famously, is currently the number one offense of all time at a 119 ORTG.
On Sacramento, Keegan Murray, Malik Monk and Davion Mitchell combine to take about 28% of the FGA while being roughly average from a TS%. Their offensive engines are Fox and Sabonis, good but sub-all star players. This team thrives by not having any terrible contributors weighing them down.
If you look at the drafts, there are no players even as talented as Fox or Sabonis. Every player is basically significantly better. I think there's no way to avoid the offensive environment being significantly higher.
Boston was up 29 in the 2nd quarter vs. Brooklyn. We are 4 minutes into the 3rd and they're up 1. I still have every expectation they'll win, but they just completely turned off for a bit there.
Funny stat from the Hawks game tonight: Over the past six games, Saddiq Bey has played for four different coaches.
if you think about it, the 00s occupied the time between the illegal defense era of the 90s (and before, when post-centric offenses thrived), and the pace and space era in the 2010s.
our league has a lot of players from the former era, and they're playing with a ruleset from the latter era, so it makes sense that the style often winds up resembling that in-between era of iverson/melo/kobe.
Again, I think the example of 2023 Sacramento is instructive here.
Sacramento is just 19th in getting to the rim. They shoot a barely above average percentage from 3. They just take open shots at the rim and convert from floater range. They create those shots by moving the ball and making quick cuts. They don't have any outrageous 1-1 players. They're 23rd in offensive rebounding. They just ... generate a ton of space and take open shots.
If we are going to use them as a proxy, then we can also see how they do against the better teams.
League average scoring is 114.3 PPG. Sacramento is scoring 120.9 PPG.
What about when Sacramento plays the other top 6 teams (other than themselves): BOS, MIL, PHI, DEN, MEM? Those teams all have different strengths and weaknesses, but together they have performed the best this season. Against those 5 teams, Sacramento is scoring 114.4 PPG.
Small sample size (as with everything). But in this case, playing a top opponent reduces their scoring to that of an average NBA team -- which is good, in context, but suggests good defenses to some extent counterbalance good offenses.
Edit: That's stupid, I guess. There's Kyrie. Though this is a bit different of a situation.
Also Clarke tore his Achilles and is out for the year.
if he ever showed that much fire and fury in an NBA game, he might still be playing in NBA games.
Man, #### absolutely everyone involved in the cynical packaging of this #### in the statements released today.
The thing is that it is clowning, it's not real. Ja is faking all of this, which makes it even more pathetic. Anyone who is actually from the hood knows that you don't hold the guns when you have the money.
This will surely be solved by a double overtime loss followed by a road game tonight!
On the other hand, if RJ Barrett was really the holdup in a potential Donovan Mitchell deal, then they look to have made a catastrophic mistake.
Man, I know Dallas ###### up not offering Brunson like 4/55 midseason last year or whatever, but was there any price they could have paid to keep him? Between the playoffs last year and his play this year, he's a max guy for me, right now.
JR: 22.3 ppg, 10.a rpg, 4.6 apg
ZW: 25.8 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 3.6 apg
Zion crushes in efficiency of course, but Randle has been much more durable.
* They did trade Porzingis and were badly outrebounded in last year's playoffs without him, but I didn't expect him to be worth 5 net rebounds per game, or 7 per game that he actually plays.
Barrett is just a less durable Andrew Wiggins, right? They're even both from Toronto. Knicks are smartly holding on to him for that year 8 breakout season.
He's still only 22, many many guys have been written off young and then turned it on later. But the extension kicks in next season, somewhat offsetting that factor.
And as many people (me included, I'm pretty sure) pointed out at the time, a Brunson/Mitchell backcourt would have created a lot of defensive problems. And then yet another maybe, maybe there just wasn't a deal to be made with Utah, it's hard to parse the rumors. But Barrett does not currently look like he's on the way to becoming a guy that matters, from what I've seen.
Wild.
Tyrese put up 16 points and 2 turnovers in the same game, and added 40 points on 19 shots. And if his teammates shot free throws as well as Harden's, the Pacers would have won.
This is not particularly helpful in a game between the Pacers and the 76ers. I got it from context though.
This part was also a bit difficult to parse*
* It wasn't that difficult to parse.
For the first time this season, the Lakers are in a playoff spot.
Enjoy watching the Suns. I realized I have never liked a team KD plays on. Hate OKC for stealing Sonics. Hate Warriors for getting Steph instead of the Wolves getting him and cap spike falling in their laps, plus normal dynasty resentment. Hated Nets because Kyrie. Dude is like 45 years old and I'm finally enjoying him. I'm hoping we get a Phoenix-Denver playoff series just to see which way my heart goes.
Stock way down to Dallas. Love Luka because Lebron has been my guy since HS and Luka is the stylistic heir, but never liked the city of Dallas and feel much more comfortable cheering against them with their infowars disciple.
Stock up to the Nets. I haven't been watching them, but I love checking the box scores to see how they allocated minutes to their 11 wings.
My biggest worry besides health - which is a very big worry for an aging great team - is that Bud is not the right coach to manage all of the players/minutes/rotations. He's already shown weakness at managing minutes in the playoffs before, though tbf he has done better starting basically when they were down 2-0 to the Nets. But adding Dragic adds to that worry for me. I worry about him and Crowder getting minutes they don't deserve because of their name. I don't imagine there's ever a world in where Dragic gets minutes that shouldn't be going to Connaughton or Carter.
This is just who they are this season. My post from last week:
I'm starting to wonder if losing Mike Brown to the Kings was a bigger loss than I thought. They made the transition from Ron Adams to Brown pretty well, but the defense just hasn't consistently been there. They are down some talent vs. last year (GP2, OPJ, Wiggins), but it's the inconsistency of effort that says coaching/player issue to me, because they seem perfectly capable of playing good defense when at home with the same talent.
They may actually win.
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