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6 cities that nearly landed an MLB team

Frustrated with his lease at city-owned Kansas City Municipal Stadium, A’s owner Charlie Finley looked into various relocation possibilities. A bid to move to Dallas was dismissed by the other AL owners in 1962. A move to either Seattle or Milwaukee was also discussed. Finley even floated the (completely absurd and unlikely) possibility of moving the team to tiny Peculiar, Mo., 45 minutes south of Kansas City, and erecting temporary stands in a cow pasture.

More serious was the idea of moving the A’s to the Bluegrass State.

Finley met with Louisville mayor William Cowger and Kentucky governor Edward Breathitt and announced he had signed a two-year lease agreement for his team to use Fairgrounds Stadium as its home base. Again, the AL owners shot this down. When Finley pivoted to a 20-year agreement with the city of Oakland to move the team to a yet-to-be-constructed stadium, they shot that down, too, and threatened to expel Finley from the league if he didn’t agree to what they deemed to be a fair lease extension offer from Kansas City.

Finley ultimately relented and signed the four-year lease, but, after it expired in 1967, the league and owners finally allowed him to pack up and head to Oakland. Alas, Louisville got left behind. But the home of Louisville Slugger has been home to several Negro League teams, as well as the Minor League Colonels. The Minor League franchise now known as the Louisville Bats has been in operation since 1982.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 09, 2022 at 09:34 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: January 10, 2022 at 10:10 AM (#6060404)
Finley was going to re-name the A's the Kentucky Colonels, so he could keep the KC on the caps.

Now, just imagine...
   2. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: January 10, 2022 at 10:32 AM (#6060413)
Finley was going to re-name the A's the Kentucky Colonels, so he could keep the KC on the caps.

Now, just imagine...


Finley could then have switched from mustache mandates to ducks' ass haircuts, to match the "DA" on the Denver A's caps.
   3. kcgard2 Posted: January 10, 2022 at 04:51 PM (#6060479)
Louisville has also been home to a Major League franchise - the Louisville Colonels (and earlier Eclipse) in the American Association during the 1880s and then the National League in the 1890s.
   4. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: January 10, 2022 at 07:27 PM (#6060513)
[3] And the Louisville Grays were one of the original 8 teams in the 1876 National League. Note that only two of the original 8 are still around- the Boston Red Stockings are now the Atlanta Braves and the Chicago White Stockings are now the Chicago Cubs. The Cincinnati Reds*, Philadelphia Athletics and St. Louis Brown Stockings folded but inspired the name of later franchises (*or rather that Cincinnati Reds and the current Cincinnati Reds both got their names from the first professional team which also had that name).

Edit: MLB has also since retconned the current Cincinnati Reds franchise to include the 1869 Cincinnati Reds, but the 1876-1879 version, I believe is still considered a different franchise. bb-ref considers the 1876-79 Reds to be a different franchise.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 10, 2022 at 08:18 PM (#6060523)
Maybe others remember differently, but when I was a kid in the late 80s, people talked like it was a given Buffalo would get a team soon. Fans supported the Bisons really well, but looking back, Buffalo was pretty small even then, it would have been a poor place to put a team with the Rust Belt about to lose major population.

I remember Orlando went as far as hiring Bob Boone to be their manager and naming the team something like Sun Rays or Sun Sox or something like that. Miami got an expansion team instead.
   6. yest Posted: January 10, 2022 at 10:35 PM (#6060549)
This article doesn’t help Pete browning’s hall of fame chances after being snubbed from the ballot for political reasons.
   7. Lassus Posted: January 11, 2022 at 09:13 AM (#6060580)
Buffalo averages about 5 days of snow in April, about double Cleveland's snowfall days for the month. Average temperatures high of 53, low of 38, about five degrees colder than Cleveland's average April temperatures.
   8. Accent Shallow only believes what it believes Posted: January 11, 2022 at 09:27 AM (#6060583)
[3] And the Louisville Grays were one of the original 8 teams in the 1876 National League. Note that only two of the original 8 are still around- the Boston Red Stockings are now the Atlanta Braves and the Chicago White Stockings are now the Chicago Cubs. The Cincinnati Reds*, Philadelphia Athletics and St. Louis Brown Stockings folded but inspired the name of later franchises (*or rather that Cincinnati Reds and the current Cincinnati Reds both got their names from the first professional team which also had that name).


I have always been curious about how we had the Red Stockings, the White Stockings, the Brown Stockings, and that's it?

No other colors really made it to the majors? (I am aware of the Toledo Blue Stockings, but it's hard to count a team that existed for two years in the 1880s)
   9. SoSH U at work Posted: January 11, 2022 at 09:41 AM (#6060586)
I have always been curious about how we had the Red Stockings, the White Stockings, the Brown Stockings, and that's it?


They belatedly realized that naming a club after the color of its hosiery is quite terrible?
   10. yest Posted: January 11, 2022 at 11:42 PM (#6060732)
They belatedly realized that naming a club after the color of its hosiery is quite terrible?


Has there been a verdict yet on whether the Detroit tigers were named for their socks
   11. Howie Menckel Posted: January 12, 2022 at 06:48 PM (#6060855)
the New York Mets (for Metropolitans) in the 1960s and 1970s begat the Jets (ok), the Nets (terrible), the Sets of World Team Tennis (terribler, if that's possible), and the New York Bets (bad OTB commercials).
former Governor Hugh Carey, at the annual legislators softball game, once wore a jersey depicting the New York Debts (almost clever).

the NY Times proposed Yankees becoming Yets, Giants becoming Gets, Knicks to Sweats, Islanders to Threats, and Rangers to Regrets. they also wanted to see Flubs, Tubs, and Schlubs in Chicago, and to have Celts, Belts, Welts, and Melts in Boston.

the '70s were .... weird.

whereas now, we have 6 teams in MLS that are just the city and "FC" (or "FC" and the city), plus another is the city and "Football Club" spelled out.

of the 28 franchises, the only ones who need not hang their heads in shame are the Columbus Crew, New York Red Bulls, Portland Timbers, San Jose Earthquakes, Chicago Fire (FC), Colorado Rapids, Houston Dynamo (FC), LA Galaxy, New England Revolution, Seattle Sounders (FC), and Vancouver Whitecaps (FC).
   12. SoSH U at work Posted: January 12, 2022 at 08:04 PM (#6060863)
of the 28 franchises, the only ones who need not hang their heads in shame are the Columbus Crew, New York Red Bulls, Portland Timbers, San Jose Earthquakes, Chicago Fire (FC), Colorado Rapids, Houston Dynamo (FC), LA Galaxy, New England Revolution, Seattle Sounders (FC), and Vancouver Whitecaps (FC).


Really, five team names that don't end in S and another that's named after a shitty energy drink and you think they're the one that shouldn't be ashamed?

Every single team in the four traditional North American sports follows the exact same naming convention, place name followed by plural noun (well, as soon as WFC reveals its new name next month it will be true again). How extraordinarily boring.
   13. Howie Menckel Posted: January 12, 2022 at 11:52 PM (#6060886)
I put that one a tee for somebody.
:)

you're welcome, SoSH

though I do prefer "Houston Dynamo" to "FC Cincinnati"
   14. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: January 13, 2022 at 02:00 AM (#6060899)
[12] There’s the Miami Heat, Oklahoma City Thunder, Minnesota Wild, Utah Jazz, and Tampa Bay Lightening that aren’t plural nouns.
   15. SoSH U at work Posted: January 13, 2022 at 09:51 AM (#6060912)
[12] There’s the Miami Heat, Oklahoma City Thunder, Minnesota Wild, Utah Jazz, and Tampa Bay Lightening that aren’t plural nouns.


Yes and no, as some of these are also the plural form, just without the s ending. More important, they're all still following the same basic template.
   16. DL from MN Posted: January 13, 2022 at 10:23 AM (#6060915)
Minnesota FC is nicknamed the Loons.

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