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Monday, March 09, 2020

8th? BBTF Central Park Softball Game: SEPT 18, 2021

Let’s start planning for this year’s game. First questions:

1. Who is submitting the permit request? (Answer: Hysterical & Useless)

2. What dates should we aim for? (Answer: July 25 October 3 Saturday, September 18, 2021)

3. Where is the post-game destination?

I’ll try to keep the header up to date as actions are taken and decisions are made.

villageidiom Posted: March 09, 2020 at 01:22 PM | 151 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Howie Menckel Posted: September 30, 2020 at 10:42 AM (#5979743)
bump - not with a bang, but a whimper
   102. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 30, 2020 at 11:08 AM (#5979746)
Hey guys, I'm going be out. I have to go upstate to help someone teach a class. Sorry.
   103. Karl from NY Posted: October 01, 2020 at 03:15 PM (#5980266)
So is anyone still up for this, or is the idea completely dead?
   104. catomi01 Posted: October 01, 2020 at 03:33 PM (#5980274)
I'm out for this year.
   105. Howie Menckel Posted: October 01, 2020 at 03:51 PM (#5980285)
it's over - it's always been over
   106. villageidiom Posted: October 01, 2020 at 07:41 PM (#5980365)
Oh, look who knows so much! It's only mostly dead.

Feel free to use this thread to make arrangements to meet up, maybe toss a ball around.
   107. AndrewJ Posted: October 03, 2020 at 07:03 PM (#5980928)
I was also busy today, as it turned out.

Maybe we can do something in NYC over the winter -- anyone up for a book swap?
   108. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 04, 2020 at 12:25 AM (#5980961)
what about some strato matic tournament? or meet to watch a playoff game(s)? I usually pass through the area every other week and would be down for this.
   109. Howie Menckel Posted: March 22, 2021 at 10:08 PM (#6009659)
it happens every spring - or summer.

except in 2020.

on the one hand, I have a 1-dose vaccine appointment on Thursday!

on the other hand, I blew out the same knee both in December and February - twice, in the latter case.

on the third(?) hand, in the past 3 weeks I have gone from dodging a bullet so "only" sprained ligaments and a walker, to a four-pronged cane, to a one-pronged cane, to not only just bringing the cane out as a prop but to leaving physical therapy today and forgetting to take the cane with me - and not even bothering to come back to retrieve it.

so DH duty with a "runner" might be my speed (so to speak), at this stage.

PLAY BALL!

and I have a few post-game stories left in my quiver, I promise. have tried to hone my style with a closing "homily" on a weekly work-related podcast for the past two years, and the reviews have been kind.
:)
   110. sunday silence (again) Posted: March 23, 2021 at 02:29 PM (#6009718)
make sure your pronouns are in agreement.
   111. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 23, 2021 at 03:55 PM (#6009742)
I’m recovering from a shoulder injury (cycling accident) so probably out of commission until at least the summer. We’ll see at that point. Maybe I can be Howie’s designated runner :)
   112. villageidiom Posted: March 23, 2021 at 04:56 PM (#6009750)
Had my first Pfizering yesterday, and looking forward to softball if NYC will let us play.
   113. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 23, 2021 at 07:23 PM (#6009777)
I blew out the same knee both in December and February - twice, in the latter case.
I heard Ty Cobb would also complain about his various ailments before Old-Timers games to induce his opponents to take it easy on him.
   114. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 23, 2021 at 09:28 PM (#6009789)
and looking forward to softball if NYC will let us play.

If we go late Summer like usual, they should. If not, we can find a suburb that will. Everything has been open in my area since June/July, incl indoor dining.
   115. villageidiom Posted: March 23, 2021 at 09:37 PM (#6009793)
I heard Ty Cobb would also complain about his various ailments before Old-Timers games to induce his opponents to take it easy on him.
I think Howie is actually raising expectations with his complaints. We're talking about someone who IIRC has played the outfield wearing a fielder's glove on his throwing hand. Simply being infirm might be an upgrade.
   116. Lassus Posted: March 24, 2021 at 08:48 AM (#6009815)
suburb

#### no. I'm not traveling to the city to end up in the suburbs.
   117. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 24, 2021 at 09:08 AM (#6009819)

#### no. I'm not traveling to the city to end up in the suburbs.


You may not have heard, NYC is just one big, over-crowded, unpleasant suburb these days.
   118. Lassus Posted: March 24, 2021 at 10:26 AM (#6009832)
That what people in the suburbs have been telling themselves for 50 years.
   119. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 24, 2021 at 10:49 AM (#6009837)
That what people in the suburbs have been telling themselves for 50 years.

NYC without nightlife and live entertainment is kind of pointless.

If they will chase us off the softball field, and won't let us gather in a bar for a drink after, how would we not be better off meeting in a suburb that will let us play and drink?
   120. Howie Menckel Posted: March 24, 2021 at 10:57 AM (#6009839)
We're talking about someone who IIRC has played the outfield wearing a fielder's glove on his throwing hand.

can confirm

got one fielding chance in warmups. ball popped out of my glove, but I then caught it in midair with my bare hand. for all the infirmities, the cat-like reflexes remain unscathed.

only Shooty took notice - and spent the game fruitlessly trying to hit an opposite-field liner toward me.
   121. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: March 24, 2021 at 11:46 AM (#6009852)
#### no. I'm not traveling to the city to end up in the suburbs.
Or you could just hop off the Thruway/Saw Mill a few exits early.
   122. Lassus Posted: March 24, 2021 at 02:48 PM (#6009899)
No.
   123. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 24, 2021 at 03:00 PM (#6009902)
So, you'd rather not play, and not drink in NYC, than play and drink in a burb? That's some next level NYC snobbery (said by someone's whose family has lived in NYC and environs for 120 years).
   124. Lassus Posted: March 25, 2021 at 07:59 AM (#6009959)
Which is why you think so; not sure how you don't get that.

I mean, yes. I'm not driving four hours to hang out in the ####### suburbs. Also, I don't drink.

Sure there are logistical ways to handle it. Leave at 6, get to Scarsdale at 10, play, head into the city afterwards. But y'all aren't playing on Friday, and I'm not wasting a day of my weekend driving or public transporting my ass out the suburbs and back on Saturday when I could be doing things in the city.

I don't think the plans should be altered for my own bitchy preferences, but it's just not worth it when I live in shit nowhere for me to end up in White Plains and in my car and on the train for such a significant portion of a short weekend.
   125. villageidiom Posted: May 12, 2021 at 01:30 PM (#6018562)
If I am reading the site correctly, NYC is issuing permits again for softball field use. LET'S GO!
   126. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 12, 2021 at 03:40 PM (#6018596)
Does this mean I've been re-elected as permit procurer? Or do I need to submit a resume, showing all the successful procurements I've executed (NOT procurers I've executed, no, I leave that duty to snapper), with testimonials from all the satisfied customers (if any), in order to claim that coveted post?

Or are we just going to wing it and assume that we'll be able to claim a field and hold it against the onslaughts of whatever ravening hordes are rampaging through the Park on whichever glorious summer day we happen to choose?
   127. villageidiom Posted: May 12, 2021 at 09:11 PM (#6018642)
Yes, no, and no, in that order.
   128. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 13, 2021 at 01:59 PM (#6018711)
Any preferred dates from the usual suspects? Or dates to be avoided?

   129. villageidiom Posted: May 13, 2021 at 09:06 PM (#6018779)
For me, if we're looking at a Saturday, then 7/17, 8/21, and 9/25 are to be avoided.
   130. catomi01 Posted: May 15, 2021 at 01:04 PM (#6018936)
Any preferred dates from the usual suspects? Or dates to be avoided?


I'm tentatively doing tournaments 7/3, 8/21, and 9/11....and basically every Sunday.
   131. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 17, 2021 at 02:56 PM (#6019197)
So 7/3, 7/17, 8/21, 9/11, and 9/25 are OUT!!!

Is there a consensus that a date later in the year (ie, September or even October) would be better in terms of travel and post-game logistics? [easier to book, fewer restrictions, less chance of contagion, etc)
   132. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 17, 2021 at 03:12 PM (#6019217)
Is there a consensus that a date later in the year (ie, September or even October) would be better in terms of travel and post-game logistics? [easier to book, fewer restrictions, less chance of contagion, etc)

Sept certainly has better weather here.
   133. catomi01 Posted: May 17, 2021 at 06:22 PM (#6019264)
Yes...but also through in Labor Day weekend as a no for me in that range...I assume we wouldn't do it then anyway, but i've got an out of state wedding that day.
   134. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 17, 2021 at 07:20 PM (#6019270)
Yes...but also through in Labor Day weekend as a no for me in that range...I assume we wouldn't do it then anyway, but i've got an out of state wedding that day.

After Labor Day, definitely.
   135. villageidiom Posted: May 17, 2021 at 09:13 PM (#6019293)
I'm fine with September, other than the dates listed. I don't know my October conflicts yet but I'm generally good with October, too.
   136. zenbitz Posted: May 19, 2021 at 03:45 PM (#6019705)
Labor day no good. After not great, kid in school.
   137. Lassus Posted: May 19, 2021 at 04:05 PM (#6019711)
I like September. Cooler.
   138. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: May 19, 2021 at 05:10 PM (#6019733)
September is theoretically better than the summer. Labor Day weekend probably not, though.
   139. djordan Posted: May 19, 2021 at 05:15 PM (#6019735)
If I am around for the final date chosen, I'd love to come play.
   140. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 29, 2021 at 01:24 PM (#6021481)
So, Labor Day weekend is out, also the 11th and 25th. To that leaves us with the 18th or 32nd of September. Let's vote!
   141. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 02, 2021 at 03:20 PM (#6022129)
I've submitted a permit request for Saturday, Sept 18th from 11 to 2. Requested fields are in the North Meadow. I'll let you all know how things progress.
   142. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 09, 2021 at 07:35 PM (#6023477)
I was going to post that I had no updates re: the permit, then decided I should check the thread from 2 years ago, as I recall the whole process was rather convoluted and non-intuitive. Was able not only to find the thread but also my brilliant exposition of the meandering journey from considering thinking about possibly applying for a permit all the way to the final receipt of same. Eureka!

My application this year still sits as "submitted," has not yet moved to "in process," which is, I am reliably informed (by that unimpeachable source, me) when you can pay for the permit. Once payment is made, the status goes to "approved."

So we're still on step 1. As soon as we reach step 2, I'll be sure to kick it along to step 3. And will let everybody know the news.
   143. Howie Menckel Posted: June 09, 2021 at 09:12 PM (#6023493)
and think someone claimed you were "Useless" !
   144. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 09, 2021 at 09:24 PM (#6023495)
Am I the only one who wonders what the difference is between ‘uselessly hysterical’ & ‘hysterically useless’?
   145. Howie Menckel Posted: June 10, 2021 at 01:08 AM (#6023522)
having met H & U several times, I can attest that he might be the least 'hysterical' person on this board.

admittedly, in the valley of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

:)
   146. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 11, 2021 at 11:55 AM (#6023772)
Thank you, Howie, for that endorsement. My wife, children, and co-workers over the years might not agree, but what do they know?

Oh, right, they know me. Drat them and their inside information!
   147. villageidiom Posted: June 11, 2021 at 03:43 PM (#6023809)
I've submitted a permit request for Saturday, Sept 18th from 11 to 2.
Updated the header. LET'S GO!
   148. reech Posted: June 17, 2021 at 10:59 AM (#6024729)
Yeah- I wanna play!!!!!
If my body holds out for another 3 months- I am in!!!!!!!!!
   149. Hysterical & Useless Posted: July 25, 2021 at 02:51 PM (#6030326)
Well, I can see I'm not the only one who hasn't been here lately! But I'll post an update anyway:

Earlier this summer, the Parks Dept was requiring the completion of a rather lengthy (6 or 7 page?) Safety Plan affirmation, under which I (as the Permit Holder) would be liable for rather extreme punishments (revocation of my permit!) if anyone at our event violated the safety guidelines. Since this form had to be printed, various boxes checked and signatures affixed, then scanned and submitted with the permit request, and I did not have access to a printer or scanner, I didn't complete the form (chorus of boos and hisses).

Well, today I'm finally back in Brooklyn, within range of our printer & scanner, all ready to print out, sign, and scan the form, but I find that my procrastination has paid off! The required Safety Plan affirmation has disappeared! I will no longer be subjected to public shaming should any Event Participants misbehave and violate the terms of the Safety Plan (as doubtless they will).

Unfortunately, the permit application still sits at "Submitted," so our rejoicing should be restrained.

Fortunately, from the "Field and Court Permit Availability" website, it looks like no permits have been issued for dates after August 31st, so I'm guessing we haven't been shut out. Yet.

Next step is to try to find a phone number that will put me in touch with someone who knows something (anything!) about the permit process in general and our request in particular. My last try got me to the voice mail of someone who was working remotely and had limited access (by which I think she meant "approximately zero") to her messages.

At the very least, we'll all be able to show up and, if Our Field is occupied, heckle the grozny bustards who stole it from us, before repairing to a nearby watering hole to get hydrated. Or inebriated. Whatever.
   150. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 25, 2021 at 04:45 PM (#6030337)
Keep up the good fight!
   151. Hysterical & Useless Posted: July 30, 2021 at 02:42 PM (#6031654)
FINALLY managed to get through to someone at the Parks department (for future reference, the number to call for info on your permit is 212-408-0226), and guess what I learned?
The North Meadow, where we've played in recent years and where I requested a field, is unavailable for softball in the fall; it's all given over to soccer. So I've submitted a new request for a field on the Great Lawn, which might possibly be approved. Stress on the possibly. Because the "deadline" for submitting Fall Season requests was in June, and they don't look at "late" requests until all those submitted On Time have been dealt with.

I suppose it's possible that there's someplace on the website that tells you that asking to play softball in the North Meadow in September is a fool's errand, so I should've known better, but I never saw it.

I will assiduously monitor the Permit website to see what (if any) action is taken In Re the matter of Our Permit, and report back to the Committee as and when there is news to report.

Until then, I remain,
Your most obedient humble servant...
[raspberry]
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