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Thursday, December 29, 2011

A Departing Q & A with George Vecsey

See ya, ol’ George! Gotta run…mom’s sending me down a righteous dish of escamoles!

Q. Was there any sports figure in particular that took issue with your column, enough to verbally abuse you; or threaten to harm you physically?

A: Really, only one. During the week of Watts in 1965, the Dodgers were pretty shook up, particularly African-American ones. A young pinch-runner named Willie Crawford missed 3B…costing a run, and, as I recall, a game. Afterward, in the clubhouse, we went to ask him about it. From the far end of the clubhouse, Willie Davis said (in the most gorgeous baritone), “Leave the kid alone.” I said, rather nicely, we had a job to do. Davis did not agree, and pretty quickly charged down the aisle of the clubhouse, looking like a man about to take a swing. From his own locker, John Roseboro stepped in and took the charge, as he did at home plate, saying, “Ummm, gentlemen, this is not the time or place for this.” (Or something like that, very calmly, in his own mellow voice.) Davis never got to me, for which I am grateful.

A day or two later, Roseboro got hit on the head by Marichal. Larry Fox of the Telly and I found Roseboro at the Dodger plane at the airport (we knew the clubhouse guy) and his bandages were covered by a Giant cap—Willie Mays’ cap. Willie was disgusted with what Marichal did. I tell this story often, to make the point of what a wonderful man Roseboro was. He should have been a manager.

...Q. How optimistic are you for the future of the U.S. Newspaper Industry?

A: Not. Newspapers are the engines that drive the Web. Without editors planning assignments and copy editors fixing mistakes, reporters quickly deteriorate into Underwear Guys writing blogs from their den. The sad thing is that everybody knows it—even politicians and business people know they need some source of actual information, even if they get whacked once in a while. But the economics and timidity of the newspaper business are working against that future. And the bloggers brag about knowing how things work from the sanctity of their dens.

Thanks to Lisa Swan.

Repoz Posted: December 29, 2011 at 02:31 AM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: business, dodgers, history, media

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   1. Tripon Posted: December 29, 2011 at 03:09 AM (#4024841)
A: Not. Newspapers are the engines that drive the Web. Without editors planning assignments and copy editors fixing mistakes, reporters quickly deteriorate into Underwear Guys writing blogs from their den. The sad thing is that everybody knows it—even politicians and business people know they need some source of actual information, even if they get whacked once in a while. But the economics and timidity of the newspaper business are working against that future. And the bloggers brag about knowing how things work from the sanctity of their dens.


You can have a room filled with reporters without the ####### newspaper.
   2. Magnum RA Posted: December 29, 2011 at 04:57 AM (#4024902)
Underwear Guy sounds like a good gig.
   3. Coot Veal and Cot Deal taste like Old Bay Posted: December 29, 2011 at 05:01 AM (#4024903)
worth the read...
   4. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: December 29, 2011 at 05:46 AM (#4024920)
And the bloggers brag about knowing how things work from the sanctity of their dens

wow--it's getting worse--they're out of their mother's basements and into the den
   5. Eugene Freedman Posted: December 29, 2011 at 01:12 PM (#4024977)
wow--it's getting worse--they're out of their mother's basements and into the den


Baby is all growed up.
   6. como10 Posted: December 29, 2011 at 02:33 PM (#4025002)
Patience and talent and good clips may not matter much; actually do not matter than much now, if I read papers around the US.


Or you can take the George Vescey route and have a well-connected father open some doors for you.
   7. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: December 29, 2011 at 04:02 PM (#4025076)
I think the Willie Crawford game was this one. Crawford pinch ran for Don Drysdale, who had started and who'd been allowed to hit for himself in the 12th inning. The Dodgers won, but it took until the 15th inning. Drysdale and Willie Mays both hit home runs, and there were more than 24 innings pitched in the game by Hall of Famers.
   8. GregD Posted: December 30, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#4025543)
Or you can take the George Vescey route and have a well-connected father open some doors for you.
Is the father a well-known person? I've never heard that but obviously could not know. I do think you can make the opposite claim about George, that he opened a lot of doors, as his younger brother and kids and nieces and nephews have gone into journalism. Maybe he helped them. But is there any reason to think George is a beneficiary of nepotism?
   9. depletion Posted: December 30, 2011 at 03:02 AM (#4025570)
From the New York Historical Society (http://sports.nyhistory.org/george-vecsey/):
Vecsey’s father, George, sports editor of the old Long Island Press in the 1930s, was dismissed for trying to organize editorial employees for the then-new Newspaper Guild, and subsequently worked at the Daily News and The Associated Press.

But if George, Jr. sucked, he probably wouldn't have lasted very long.
There is a YouTube clip called "Peter Vecsey tries to get punched" about a NBA interview: cool title.

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