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1. AndrewJ Posted: November 16, 2023 at 07:43 PM (#6147401)Being named MVP unanimously after missing the last 27 games of the season=Very impressive
Being named MVP unanimously TWICE=unprecedented
Obviously a huge accomplishment for Shohei. Crazy that Bonds was only unanimous once though.
Barry's 1st place votes for his MVP seasons:
1990 - 23/24 - Someone voted for Bobby Bonilla?!
1992 - 18/24
1993 - 24/28
2001 - 30/32 - Sosa got 2 votes despite Barry's 73 homers and .863 SLG
2002 - 32/32 - Yay, he got one!
2003 - 28/32
2004 - 24/32 - This one blows my mind. Granted, Beltre, Pujols, and Rolen were awesome, but Barry broke the game with a .362/.609/.812 line and 232 walks (120 intentional)
Diaz 330 BA
Semien 122 R
Semien 185 H
Ohtani 44 HR
Tucker 112 RBI
NL leaders
Arraez 354 BA
Acuna 149 R
Acuna 217 H
Olson 54 HR
Olson 149 RBI
Olson got robbed!! Since when does leading the league in HR and RBI not win MVP. He's a run producer!
And Semien too. H, R and tied for 4th in RBI. Sure Ohtani led in HR and pitched a little (putting his entire season at risk!) but he wasn't even top 10 in RBI so fat lot of good those HRs did his team!
It's Flashback Friday in New Zealand.
Crazy - Bonds had 12 seasons of 8+ WAR, 3 over 10, 5 in the 9's. 7 of those 8+ WAR seasons were pre-PEDs too. Love how his highest pay was $22 mil in 2005 - the year he played the least in his ML career (just 14 games), and how MLB decided to blackball him after 2007 when he had a 169 OPS+ (I will never believe no AL team wanted him to DH after that season at the ML minimum which he publicly offered to play for).
2021 AL came very close - Ohtani got all 30 1st place, Vlad Jr got 29 2nd's and 1 3rd (someone put Salvador Perez 2nd instead).
So how many players have even finished in the top 5 in MVP voting in both leagues? Here's everyone I could find, with their top finish in each league listed:
Mookie Betts - 1st (AL), 2nd (NL-twice)
Corey Seager - 2nd (AL), 3rd (NL)
Miguel Cabrera - 1st (AL-twice), 5th (NL-twice)
Vladimir Guerrero - 1st (AL), 4th (NL)
Manny Ramirez - 3rd (AL-twice), 4th (NL-in just 53 games!)
Gary Sheffield - 2nd (AL), 3rd (NL-twice)
Mark McGwire - 2nd (NL), 4th (AL)
Frank Robinson - 1st (NL), 1st (AL)
Anyone else? There's gotta be more...
also, Dick Allen; although he was Richie for one of them
also, Adrian Beltre
It would be a good immaculate grid category
Dave Winfield - 3rd (NL), 4th (AL)
Which reminds me of...
Eddie Murray - 2nd (AL-twice), 5th (NL)
Dick Allen - 1st (AL), 4th (NL)
Adrian Beltre - 2nd (NL), 3rd (AL)
Yep, checks out!
Is that the highest WAR (10.3) from a clear non-MVP season (non-pitcher division)?
Trout had 10.5 in 2012, but was 2nd to Cabrera's triple crown, so I can understand why people went for Cabrera.
Petrocelli and Ripken were close with 10.0 and no MVP title. Yaz and Mays should have won when they had their monster seasons. Maybe Mays in '63 was a justifiable 2nd to Koufax, too bad he was 5th in voting...
ETA: missed Williams as noted in #17. He should have won in '42 at least with 10.5 WAR. '41 was defensible going with the best player on the 101-win Yanks.
I don't care what anyone says, sillyball was amazing.
Dwight Evans only title was in 1981 in a 4 way tie, with 22. He had 6 other seasons with more than 22. Obviously that was a strike year, and had there been a full season, the league leader would certainly have had much more than 22.
Vern Stephens led the AL in 1945 with 24 when a) most real ballplayers were in a different kind of uniform, and b) it was the year of the dead "balata ball." he had 3 seasons after the war with more than 24 but didn't lead.
Tillie Walker tied babe Ruth with 11 in 1918. After the lively ball exploded he topped that 3 times but was nowhere near Ruth in 1920 and 21, and fell 2 shy of Ken Williams in 1922.
Manny Ramirez's only HR title came in his 4th highest season. He led with 43 in 2004, but he had 2 seasons of 45 and 1 of 44 that didn't lead.
Oddly, Luke Voits AL HR title that season in 56 games is actually tied for his career high.
Frank, Winfield, Vlad (with rounding help) and ??? Beltre, McGriff and McGwire just miss; Allen, Delgado & Sheff miss. Mookie and Manny will make it next year we hope. Ohtani will make it as soon as he signs with the Cubs -- right? right?
You might have to drop it to 20 WAR to get a fuller list.
EDIT: And, I shoulda known this, Reggie Smith.
Raines had 20 in the AL; looks like Lofton had about 15 in the NL (that's a lot of teams).
Our OF is well-stocked, the rest is hurting. (For Cs, let's say at least 18 in both?)
EDIT: not Simmons; Porter had 12 for StL
EDIT2: Tenace yes! Not much of a C, just 760 starts, but we won't have many options
Ditto with Mike Piazza and his 59.4 NL WAR and 0.1 AL WAR!
It was Mays who really was shortchanged on the MVP though, at least Bonds won 3 of 4 (and was 2nd once) from 1990-1993. Yes, he got shortchanged in his early 30's, but then won 4 more. Mays had the highest WAR from 1954-1958 in 4 of those 5 seasons with only 1 win and one 2nd. Then 1962-1966 he had the highest WAR every year with only 1 win and one 2nd.
It's a sign of how much voting has improved that we used to complain about clearly undeserving people winning the award, and now we complain because someone wasn't unanimous, or about down-ballot voting.
I was a bit surprised when Bonds won the award in 2003. He only played 130 games and had a pretty small lead over Pujols in WAR. I thought the voters might have looked for a reason to give the award to someone else, but Barry won it pretty handily (probably helps that the Giants won 100 games).
10 rings ( if they gave out rings back in the 1940’s); one for every finger and thumb.
3 MVPs.
It was good to be a Yankee in the 1940’s and 50’s.
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